Re: [RBW] Re: From Joe to Clem
Thanks everyone for the comments and help! This is my first time posting so I’m not sure if this is going to everyone or what. I think I’m going to keep the triple and see how it works. I put it on the Clem with no chain and it looks like there shouldn’t be clearance issues with the frame. I guess once I get wheels, tires, and a chain on I’ll know more. I don’t really need the triple set up so worse comes to worse I guess I’ll set what I can do to make it a double if I run into any issues. Derek On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 8:50 PM Collin A wrote: > I have the standard build silver wide-low double on mine, which is the > same crank arm as the silver triple (i'm 95% sure)... > > > On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 5:49:14 PM UTC-8, Collin A wrote: >> >> Derek, >> >> I agree on the rational for wider tires (right now its the only thing >> keeping me from buying a hillborne). >> >> In response to your questions: >> >>1. When I ran 650bx2.4s on my 52 Clem, I had chain rub between the >>tire and chain using a 110 BB when in my lowest gear (throwing on a 113 BB >>solved that). Looking at my Clem right next to my computer, I see no issue >>with having a triple as my 38T chainring mounted inboard has 6.5mm of >> space >>between it and the chainstay and the bashguard mounted outboard has 11.7 >> mm >>of space between it and the chainstay (this is slightly smaller than a 44T >>chainring, so the clearances would shrink, but it should still work. >>Gearing wise, the wider and larger diameter tires will slow you down a >>smidge, so that 44 tooth may not see much use (and may be worth adding a >>chainguard instead). >>2. The width issue I cannot respond to directly, but if you go >>tubeless, no more worries of pinch flats (not sure if those rims are >>tubeless compatible though). >> >> Hopefully this helps >> Collin >> >> On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 11:54:31 AM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote: >>> >>> Hi all. Picked up a lightly used Joe Appaloosa complete last year and >>> enjoyed tinkering with bar set ups and cruising around town. However in the >>> end it was too similar to the other bikes I have from a purpose standpoint. >>> Luckily I picked up a blemished Clem Smith Jr from from the guys at Walnut >>> Creek a few weeks ago. >>> >>> Why go Clem? In the end, wider tires (I didn’t have anything between >>> 50ish on my all road steel and my fat bike). I’m in West Michigan so we >>> have lots of options from miles of gravel to rail trail to singletrack. The >>> Clem lets me sit pretty in that 2.3 range, stretch out with those >>> chainstays, and have a great all around town, gravel, singletrack >>> dirt-forward option. Not that the Joe couldn’t, but I like the options the >>> Clem give me to go with more rubber. I think the only things I’ll miss is >>> the double top tube and those beautiful lugs :( >>> >>> Now to some questions... >>> 1) I’m poaching parts from the Joe when I can. I have the Silver triple >>> from Riv. Will that work on the Clem or will the chainline and clearances >>> get missed up because the Clem has a wider back end? Anyone know if I can >>> switch the Silver triple to a double with some creative gearing using what >>> I’ve got? Or am I better off finding a true double? >>> >>> 2) I have the stock AlexRim i19s but I’m worried about running wider >>> than 2.1 tires on them. Should I be? >>> >>> Thanks for the help! >>> >>> And if anyone wants a 58cm Joe with choco-moose bars let me know! >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/b7bpV85wZKg/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: From Joe to Clem
I have the standard build silver wide-low double on mine, which is the same crank arm as the silver triple (i'm 95% sure)... On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 5:49:14 PM UTC-8, Collin A wrote: > > Derek, > > I agree on the rational for wider tires (right now its the only thing > keeping me from buying a hillborne). > > In response to your questions: > >1. When I ran 650bx2.4s on my 52 Clem, I had chain rub between the >tire and chain using a 110 BB when in my lowest gear (throwing on a 113 BB >solved that). Looking at my Clem right next to my computer, I see no issue >with having a triple as my 38T chainring mounted inboard has 6.5mm of > space >between it and the chainstay and the bashguard mounted outboard has 11.7 > mm >of space between it and the chainstay (this is slightly smaller than a 44T >chainring, so the clearances would shrink, but it should still work. >Gearing wise, the wider and larger diameter tires will slow you down a >smidge, so that 44 tooth may not see much use (and may be worth adding a >chainguard instead). >2. The width issue I cannot respond to directly, but if you go >tubeless, no more worries of pinch flats (not sure if those rims are >tubeless compatible though). > > Hopefully this helps > Collin > > On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 11:54:31 AM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote: >> >> Hi all. Picked up a lightly used Joe Appaloosa complete last year and >> enjoyed tinkering with bar set ups and cruising around town. However in the >> end it was too similar to the other bikes I have from a purpose standpoint. >> Luckily I picked up a blemished Clem Smith Jr from from the guys at Walnut >> Creek a few weeks ago. >> >> Why go Clem? In the end, wider tires (I didn’t have anything between >> 50ish on my all road steel and my fat bike). I’m in West Michigan so we >> have lots of options from miles of gravel to rail trail to singletrack. The >> Clem lets me sit pretty in that 2.3 range, stretch out with those >> chainstays, and have a great all around town, gravel, singletrack >> dirt-forward option. Not that the Joe couldn’t, but I like the options the >> Clem give me to go with more rubber. I think the only things I’ll miss is >> the double top tube and those beautiful lugs :( >> >> Now to some questions... >> 1) I’m poaching parts from the Joe when I can. I have the Silver triple >> from Riv. Will that work on the Clem or will the chainline and clearances >> get missed up because the Clem has a wider back end? Anyone know if I can >> switch the Silver triple to a double with some creative gearing using what >> I’ve got? Or am I better off finding a true double? >> >> 2) I have the stock AlexRim i19s but I’m worried about running wider than >> 2.1 tires on them. Should I be? >> >> Thanks for the help! >> >> And if anyone wants a 58cm Joe with choco-moose bars let me know! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: From Joe to Clem
Derek, I agree on the rational for wider tires (right now its the only thing keeping me from buying a hillborne). In response to your questions: 1. When I ran 650bx2.4s on my 52 Clem, I had chain rub between the tire and chain using a 110 BB when in my lowest gear (throwing on a 113 BB solved that). Looking at my Clem right next to my computer, I see no issue with having a triple as my 38T chainring mounted inboard has 6.5mm of space between it and the chainstay and the bashguard mounted outboard has 11.7 mm of space between it and the chainstay (this is slightly smaller than a 44T chainring, so the clearances would shrink, but it should still work. Gearing wise, the wider and larger diameter tires will slow you down a smidge, so that 44 tooth may not see much use (and may be worth adding a chainguard instead). 2. The width issue I cannot respond to directly, but if you go tubeless, no more worries of pinch flats (not sure if those rims are tubeless compatible though). Hopefully this helps Collin On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 11:54:31 AM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote: > > Hi all. Picked up a lightly used Joe Appaloosa complete last year and > enjoyed tinkering with bar set ups and cruising around town. However in the > end it was too similar to the other bikes I have from a purpose standpoint. > Luckily I picked up a blemished Clem Smith Jr from from the guys at Walnut > Creek a few weeks ago. > > Why go Clem? In the end, wider tires (I didn’t have anything between 50ish > on my all road steel and my fat bike). I’m in West Michigan so we have lots > of options from miles of gravel to rail trail to singletrack. The Clem lets > me sit pretty in that 2.3 range, stretch out with those chainstays, and > have a great all around town, gravel, singletrack dirt-forward option. Not > that the Joe couldn’t, but I like the options the Clem give me to go with > more rubber. I think the only things I’ll miss is the double top tube and > those beautiful lugs :( > > Now to some questions... > 1) I’m poaching parts from the Joe when I can. I have the Silver triple > from Riv. Will that work on the Clem or will the chainline and clearances > get missed up because the Clem has a wider back end? Anyone know if I can > switch the Silver triple to a double with some creative gearing using what > I’ve got? Or am I better off finding a true double? > > 2) I have the stock AlexRim i19s but I’m worried about running wider than > 2.1 tires on them. Should I be? > > Thanks for the help! > > And if anyone wants a 58cm Joe with choco-moose bars let me know! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
