[RBW] Re: "Half-step + granny" gearing...

2012-01-04 Thread rob markwardt
I've got a couple half-step bikes and find that I rarely use the "half-
step".  Usually the "full step" is quite sufficient, however, there
are times when just a little bit higher or lower gearing is a nice
option...especially on long, undulating rides.  I can't imagine
shifting through the whole range using all the half-steps...kind of
like pretending to be a semi-truck driverr, shift, r,
shift, rr shift, etc. etc. etc. (might try it this evening!!).

Rob

On Jan 4, 2:08 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
> I used to have a half-step+granny gearing on my Sequoia (but went to a
> touring triple now).    I use an 8-speed in the back with the DO spacing
> spread to 130.     I have to agree that with an 8-speed, you definitely *do
> not* need the half-step/granny setup.     To really leverage half-step
> gearing you're just going to be shifting almost twice as often and would
> have to be really, really finicky about cadence.
>
> Matt

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[RBW] Re: "Half-step + granny" gearing...

2012-01-04 Thread newenglandbike
I used to have a half-step+granny gearing on my Sequoia (but went to a 
touring triple now).I use an 8-speed in the back with the DO spacing 
spread to 130. I have to agree that with an 8-speed, you definitely *do 
not* need the half-step/granny setup. To really leverage half-step 
gearing you're just going to be shifting almost twice as often and would 
have to be really, really finicky about cadence.


Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Half-step + granny" gearing...

2012-01-03 Thread Joe Bunik
On 1/3/12, Garth  wrote:
> I have one road bike I use a HS+G with a 7sp. 13-32 and 26-44-48 rings.  I
> live in very hilly terrain and I love it.  The times I went to the
> mountains it was great too. It's just individual taste though.
> You can use a HS setup with 8 or 9, as long as the range of the cassette is
> wide, like a 13-32, 11-34 or 12-36 .. sumthin' like that.  It's just fun to
> experiment.  Less gears is more that you think.
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[RBW] Re: "Half-step + granny" gearing...

2012-01-03 Thread Garth
I have one road bike I use a HS+G with a 7sp. 13-32 and 26-44-48 rings.  I 
live in very hilly terrain and I love it.  The times I went to the 
mountains it was great too. It's just individual taste though. 
You can use a HS setup with 8 or 9, as long as the range of the cassette is 
wide, like a 13-32, 11-34 or 12-36 .. sumthin' like that.  It's just fun to 
experiment.  Less gears is more that you think. 

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[RBW] Re: "Half-step + granny" gearing...

2012-01-02 Thread Jeremy Till
I rode an old Takara touring bike with HS + G gearing for a while last year 
before I converted that bike to fixed gear, and I really liked it for the 
flat riding on my commute from Sacramento to Davis--as Sheldon said, it 
allowed for good fine-tuning of the gear depending on how i was feeling and 
the wind conditions, even with just a 6 spd freewheel.  I only really took 
it on one hilly, unloaded ride in the Bay Area and i remember it being 
fine, although there was a large jump between grinding out the climbs in 
the lowest of the half step gears and dropping down to twiddle in the 
granny.  I liked it enough to consider swapping the setup over to my other 
touring bike, but I haven't tried that yet.  

However, I think the point is is that HS+G only really makes sense if 
you're running 6 or less gears in the back; play around with a gear chart 
and you'll find that with today's commonly available 7-10spd FWs/cassettes, 
you can get a much wider and more continuous gear range with a 
"conventional" triple.  

That being said, a proper 5 or 6 spd setup with HS+G would win you 
retro-cool points in my book.  I believe Jobst Brandt rides with an HS (no 
G) setup, including his normal rides in the Santa Cruz mountains and his 
Alps tours.  In some of his tour reports I remember reading that his low 
gear was something like 46x24.  Tuff!

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[RBW] Re: "Half-step + granny" gearing...

2012-01-02 Thread Angus
I set up half-step plus granny on my All-Rounder a number of years
ago.  It worked well unloaded and on flatish ground, but in rolling
hills I found the large jump to the granny to be annoying.  Went back
to a tripple with sensible (small) sized chainrings.

Angus

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