[RBW] Re: Has anyone tried the "short" Berthoud fenders?

[Tom Harrop]

Oh, I see. I hadn't even thought of cantis vs. rack at the stud area. Lotta 
strands to keep in old Duder's head! So one would have the same issue on 
any 700C bike with cantis... something lower-profile e.g. CX70s or Paul 
Touring wouldn't make any difference?

Lovely build by the way. Have you attached the fender stays to one of the 
spare eyelets on the rack from the inside?

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone tried the "short" Berthoud fenders?

[Bill Lindsay]

No I've got the Big Front set at the minimum height, in order to stay below 
the brakes.  Higher would get me more clearance above the tire, but would 
hit the brakes.  

crowded 

On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 9:46:52 AM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote:
>
> Thanks, both sound like reasonable options.
>
> Bill, so you're short on clearance with a Big Front on an Atlantis with 
> ~40 mm tyres? That's a bit of a surprise, I was also thinking about getting 
> one of those for the Bomba but there's no chance it'll fit with the long 
> fork blades and 60 mm big apples. I suppose you've already got it rigged at 
> the maximum height?
>

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone tried the "short" Berthoud fenders?

[Tom Harrop]

Thanks, both sound like reasonable options.

Bill, so you're short on clearance with a Big Front on an Atlantis with ~40 
mm tyres? That's a bit of a surprise, I was also thinking about getting one 
of those for the Bomba but there's no chance it'll fit with the long fork 
blades and 60 mm big apples. I suppose you've already got it rigged at the 
maximum height?

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone tried the "short" Berthoud fenders?

[Bill Lindsay]

Tom

My Atlantis build had a cozy area, too.  I was using plastic fenders, and a 
Nitto Big Front Rack, but I was concerned about one of the cross bars on 
the top platform of the rack getting in the way.  Turns out I lucked out 
and the short SKS fender didn't even get there.  

danger zone 

But it also was clear that the underside of my stuff in the basket wasn't 
going to be protected so I made a plastic piece to protect the entire 
underside of my basket, making up for the coverage shortcomings of my 
fender.  

Absolutely make your own solution!

Bill

On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:29:44 AM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just finished with a cockpit switch from drops to bosco bars on the daily 
> driver Bombadil:
>
>
> 
>
> I also switched back from v-brakes to Shimano CX70 cantis, with the tektro 
> fork-mounted cable hanger that we discussed here a week or two ago:
>
>
> 
>
> (The dent, I mean 'dimple' in the fender was my attempt to prevent the 
> housing stop on the v-brake from scraping against the fender).
>
> Anyway, this has moved the mini rack forward and down a bit (as expected), 
> but now the tab on the rack makes fender clearance a little close for 
> comfort:
>
>
> 
>
> Sorry about the shoddy photo but the Director of Bike Documentation is not 
> available to take photos today so I had to do them myself. You can't really 
> tell how close it is from that shot but when I lean on the handlebars (I 
> guess causing the fork to flex) the fender sometimes brushes the tyre. I 
> could dremel off the front of the fender behind the rack tab but I don't 
> have the skills to do a pretty job of it. I'm thinking, since I'm in France 
> and they're easy to get, the simplest thing would be just to switch to the 
> short version of the Berthoud fenders, but I haven't been able to google up 
> any images of them in combination with a mini rack or Mark's rack etc. Has 
> anyone tried it? Did you find the coverage adequate for stuff in the 
> basket/bags on the rack? Any pictures would be appreciated too of course, 
> as would other suggestions or comments!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone tried the "short" Berthoud fenders?

[ted]

Tom,

I would bend the rack legs a bit to tip the rack up. Straighten them a bit 
at the midpoint where there is a distinct kink in them, then bend the whole 
legs back just a bit where they meet the rack. This combination will make 
them longer and raise the front of the rack. I would also bend the tang so 
that everything is stress free and lines up properly without forcing. If 
your rack was level before, and you do this to make it level now, then the 
rack will be further foreword and higher than is was before you introduced 
the fork mount cable stop. That is you get more clearance not less.

I have done this sort of thing a couple of times to Nitto mini racks to get 
them sitting level. Im sort of fussy about that.

good luck
ted

On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:29:44 AM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just finished with a cockpit switch from drops to bosco bars on the daily 
> driver Bombadil:
>
>
> 
>
> I also switched back from v-brakes to Shimano CX70 cantis, with the tektro 
> fork-mounted cable hanger that we discussed here a week or two ago:
>
>
> 
>
> (The dent, I mean 'dimple' in the fender was my attempt to prevent the 
> housing stop on the v-brake from scraping against the fender).
>
> Anyway, this has moved the mini rack forward and down a bit (as expected), 
> but now the tab on the rack makes fender clearance a little close for 
> comfort:
>
>
> 
>
> Sorry about the shoddy photo but the Director of Bike Documentation is not 
> available to take photos today so I had to do them myself. You can't really 
> tell how close it is from that shot but when I lean on the handlebars (I 
> guess causing the fork to flex) the fender sometimes brushes the tyre. I 
> could dremel off the front of the fender behind the rack tab but I don't 
> have the skills to do a pretty job of it. I'm thinking, since I'm in France 
> and they're easy to get, the simplest thing would be just to switch to the 
> short version of the Berthoud fenders, but I haven't been able to google up 
> any images of them in combination with a mini rack or Mark's rack etc. Has 
> anyone tried it? Did you find the coverage adequate for stuff in the 
> basket/bags on the rack? Any pictures would be appreciated too of course, 
> as would other suggestions or comments!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>

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