[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

2019-10-07 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
Looking at the May 2017 Geometry chart, for Toyo and Waterford built AHH 
frames:
Optional on 61 and 63
Standard for 65, 67, 69 & 72

The 2018 chart shows that the Made in Taiwan frames only come with the 
double top tube in the largest which is listed as 62 cm.

David Lipsky 
Berkeley, CA


On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 6:46:43 PM UTC-7, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> What size frames have the secondary top tube? 
> 

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

2019-10-07 Thread Julian Westerhout
Ryan is correct -- although most of the larger sizes of the Toyo and 
Waterford Homers came with two top tubes, exceptions exist. I believe all 
of the larger (61.5, 64 cm) MIT Homers have the swooping second top tube -- 
although if the current generation is your goal a call to Riv would resolve 
any questions. 

FWIW, I have a 67 cm single top tube Waterford-made Homer. 

Tom, why do you ask? Are you pro or anti- two-tubers? How big are you? What 
sort of riding will you do? 

Julian Westerhout 
Bloomington, IL 




On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:55:45 PM UTC-5, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> It varies.  I have both a 65cm and 69cm single top tube Homer Hilsen.  But 
> the general rule is the 67, 69, and 71’s had double top tubes for sure.   
>
> Ryan Hankinson 
> West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

2019-10-07 Thread Tom Norton
Julian, 
For me it is an appearance thing! The doy top tube just doesn't do anything for 
me.

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

2019-10-07 Thread MCT

It is a mixed bag as there are exceptions to what sizes have a double top 
tube.   I have a 65cm A. Homer Hilsen (MUSA) that is a single top tube.  I 
did not request a single top tube, as I purhcased it from Rivendell after 
it was built.  The bike may be a little big for me, but the secondary 
market for steel bike with rim brakes has taken a dive, so not selling 
right now. 

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

2019-10-07 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Anyone know how to identify Toyo vs Waterford Homers.  I have two second hand 
single top tube versions. Not that it matters at all to me personally but the 
question has been asked of me regarding selling.  Serial number? Lugs? Pump 
pegs? Anything?

Thanks,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

2019-10-07 Thread Andy C.
I have a first generation (2006) Waterford Homer (the poem era). I believe 
that a characteristic of these first Homers is the lack of a kickstand 
plate. I'm not sure exactly when the plate was added, but it was soon 
thereafter. I hope I'm not wrong.

--Andy C.

On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 2:47:42 PM UTC-7, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Anyone know how to identify Toyo vs Waterford Homers.  I have two second 
> hand single top tube versions. Not that it matters at all to me personally 
> but the question has been asked of me regarding selling.  Serial number? 
> Lugs? Pump pegs? Anything?
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
>

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

2019-10-07 Thread ted
I believe that toyo built AHHs have a third set of bottle mounts on the bottom 
on the down tube, and others don’t.

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