Re: [RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread Ron Mc 
The French get more paid holidays than any other nation on the planet.  

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 8:26:21 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Huh?

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Re: [RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread lum gim fong 
Huh?

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Re: [RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar 
Just don't forget, it's August and France is closed for vacation, 
Berthoud included.



On 08/15/2017 05:47 PM, lum gim fong wrote:

Thanks for the referrals. I scoped these out yesterday.

All these stores, including Gilles himself are currently outta stock of H 121 
threaded and H 91 threaded. Im guessing you meant Bike touring news store?

I have an email into bike touring and Gilles about eta. Hope they arent 
discontinued. Seems like only aheadset versions available now.



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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread lum gim fong 
I have sidepulls. But thanks for the tip on getting adaptors  to match sets to 
what I need.

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread lum gim fong 
Thanks for the referrals. I scoped these out yesterday.

All these stores, including Gilles himself are currently outta stock of H 121 
threaded and H 91 threaded. Im guessing you meant Bike touring news store?

I have an email into bike touring and Gilles about eta. Hope they arent 
discontinued. Seems like only aheadset versions available now.

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch 
That's the most informative answer I could have hoped for, Ron.  Thanks.  

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Dave, I always loop it.  - even had a photo with it closed
>
> 
> it wrinkles there a bit but everything works fine.  
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:16:38 PM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ron.  I've been curious about an aspect of decaleur use and this is 
>> perfect time to ask.  
>>
>> I use Acorn front bags with the stabilizer straps that came with it, 
>> looped around my drop handlebars below the brake hoods.  When the lid is 
>> closed, the top is laying over the bag's opening and the rearward flap 
>> slips down behind the bag and I fasten the elastic band to the hook on the 
>> bag.  In your picture and in many other pictures I've seen of decaleurs 
>> installed, the 2 bars going from the stem to the bag occupy the same space 
>> as the lid flap does when it's closed.  
>>
>> How do you handle this---do you always leave your lid unfastened and 
>> never loop it in?   
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>>


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Re: [RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread René Sterental 
I've gotten them in the past from:
- Ben's Cycles
- http://www.boulderbicycle.bike
- The Touring Store

Sometimes, based on availability, you have to order the correct length but
a different version and then separately, order the adapter to convert it to
yours. Boulder has that configuration in the 121mm, I believe.

If, by any chance, your brakes don't need a cable hanger (V-brakes) or some
other configuration where the rack doesn't attach to the fork crown and you
have the cable holder placed there (like I do in my Atlantis), you can
adapt a normal cable colder to be the holder for the decaleur:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/27565556620/in/album-72157625129486363/

This has the added advantage that the handlebar height/type doesn't
interfere with the decaleur.

René

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Dave, I always loop it.  - even had a photo with it closed
>
> 
> it wrinkles there a bit but everything works fine.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:16:38 PM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ron.  I've been curious about an aspect of decaleur use and this is
>> perfect time to ask.
>>
>> I use Acorn front bags with the stabilizer straps that came with it,
>> looped around my drop handlebars below the brake hoods.  When the lid is
>> closed, the top is laying over the bag's opening and the rearward flap
>> slips down behind the bag and I fasten the elastic band to the hook on the
>> bag.  In your picture and in many other pictures I've seen of decaleurs
>> installed, the 2 bars going from the stem to the bag occupy the same space
>> as the lid flap does when it's closed.
>>
>> How do you handle this---do you always leave your lid unfastened and
>> never loop it in?
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread Ron Mc 
Dave, I always loop it.  - even had a photo with it closed


it wrinkles there a bit but everything works fine.  


On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:16:38 PM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>
> Hi Ron.  I've been curious about an aspect of decaleur use and this is 
> perfect time to ask.  
>
> I use Acorn front bags with the stabilizer straps that came with it, 
> looped around my drop handlebars below the brake hoods.  When the lid is 
> closed, the top is laying over the bag's opening and the rearward flap 
> slips down behind the bag and I fasten the elastic band to the hook on the 
> bag.  In your picture and in many other pictures I've seen of decaleurs 
> installed, the 2 bars going from the stem to the bag occupy the same space 
> as the lid flap does when it's closed.  
>
> How do you handle this---do you always leave your lid unfastened and never 
> loop it in?   
>
> Dave
>
>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread lum gim fong 
OK, great, Thanks, y'all. Looks like I can get plenty of drop. Nice!

Once I get the Tallux/Bosco mounted, I will measure how much length I will 
need and order.

*Only question is ...where to order from???*

Seems like I cannot find a retailer with the horizontal versions in stock 
online for the 121 or 91, which I am sure I will need.


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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch 
Hi Ron.  I've been curious about an aspect of decaleur use and this is 
perfect time to ask.  

I use Acorn front bags with the stabilizer straps that came with it, looped 
around my drop handlebars below the brake hoods.  When the lid is closed, 
the top is laying over the bag's opening and the rearward flap slips down 
behind the bag and I fasten the elastic band to the hook on the bag.  In 
your picture and in many other pictures I've seen of decaleurs installed, 
the 2 bars going from the stem to the bag occupy the same space as the lid 
flap does when it's closed.  

How do you handle this---do you always leave your lid unfastened and never 
loop it in?   

Dave

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 6:15:31 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I've posted these before
>
>  
>
> Set up for a tall Acorn rando on a 25" Raleigh frame, I just measured the 
> drop - right at 80mm, using the long Berthoud decaleur, with it tilted 
> forward enough to grab the bag properly.  
>
> I'm looking to buy another of these to also use the bag on my upright bike 
> with Map bars in almost identical height position.  
>
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:43:05 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> *But the main question is how much drop reach below the bars could I get? 
>> Got pics of yours?*
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

2017-08-15 Thread Ron Mc 
I've posted these before

 

Set up for a tall Acorn rando on a 25" Raleigh frame, I just measured the 
drop - right at 80mm, using the long Berthoud decaleur, with it tilted 
forward enough to grab the bag properly.  

I'm looking to buy another of these to also use the bag on my upright bike 
with Map bars in almost identical height position.  


On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:43:05 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> ...
>
> *But the main question is how much drop reach below the bars could I get? 
> Got pics of yours?*
>
>

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