[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Here are some pictures of the situation.  One shows the bag in its current 
dangling position; this works, I've used it like this for years on other 
bikes.  The other shows the approximate bag position I would like to 
achieve with a rack.  The lower front corner of the bag is about 2" above 
and 1" aft of those braze-ons.

As is:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/tjuEgTtociSrht9w9
As desired:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/qUn8Nr7sQVzq1u7M6

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Bob Lovejoy]

It could be that the Erlen rack they have at A1 Cyclery is not the size you 
need but I wanted to put it out there.  It looks like Chris also has a 
couple of the larger Bagman racks.

https://a1cyclery.com/products/parts/parts-racks/

Bob



On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 9:29:52 AM UTC-5, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tip about the Erlen.  It looks like that would fit this 
> bag, where the Carradice Bagman rack wouldn't.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for the tip about the Erlen.  It looks like that would fit this bag, 
where the Carradice Bagman rack wouldn't.

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Mark Schneider]

Ocean Air cycles sells the 
Erlen Saddle Bag Support rack.
Unfortunately sold out for now, a Tubus Fly would work as well as your 
other choices. 

On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 2:07:19 PM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> I have a Nigel Smythe Country Bag which I want to provide support for, in 
> some sort of specific ways:
>
>- I want to keep the bag snugged up to the saddle, so the rack needs 
>to adjust to different heights 
>- I don’t want the bag to sit on top of any tombstone/load-stopper, so 
>the rack also needs to adjust back to front. 
>- I want to use the mid seat stay braze-ons, not the ones on the 
>dropouts.  
>
>  
>
> I was originally planning on using a Mark’s Rack, but I’m also considering 
> a Nitto R-14, and now I’m even wondering about the Pletscher Clem.  Has 
> anyone configured it this way?
>
>  
>
> I like the idea of the Mark’s rack, being small and swappable to the front 
> of the bike (I use a Rando bag on my other bike), but it’s out of stock 
> everywhere.  The R-14 is a little big for what I need, but not unreasonably 
> so.  The Pletscher is significantly bigger, but also cheaper and stronger 
> and has more options for carrying stuff.  I don’t carry much in the bag and 
> will mostly keep it attached to the seat and rack, but I’m willing to swap 
> out for a different rack if I ever need to carry more.  The Pletscher could 
> potentially fill both roles by changing the configuration when/if needed.  
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> -Eric
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Jon BALER]

I have the Nitto R-10, and was able to use the seat stay rack mounts on my 
XL frame (Salsa Marrakesh).

On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 12:47:34 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> That's a really nice bag. I have a medium Nitto Big Rear Rack for sale 
> around here somewhere. Asking $160 shipped, but I'm easily talked down on 
> parts sales. 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA. 
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Joe Bernard]

That's a really nice bag. I have a medium Nitto Big Rear Rack for sale around 
here somewhere. Asking $160 shipped, but I'm easily talked down on parts sales. 

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Tom Wyland]

I think the correct rack (or bag support thing) will be driven by the 
distance between the seat loops and the desired bottom of the bag.  Where 
is that plane compared to the upper rack eyelet level?  Also think about 
how close the bag bottom should be to the seatpost and if you'll have rub 
on your brake cable (especially cantis). A tombstone will either helpful or 
just get in the way. It's hard to say for sure, but that should get you 
started.

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

HaHA!  Yes, this is a tweed one.  It's sort of a mediocre bag compared to 
what is out there today such as the Acorns or Sackvilles, etc, but's it the 
bag I have, it works fine for what I need, and I still love the look of 
it.  But I think it would look better supported by a rack, along these 
lines instead of dangling:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f0/30/cb/f030cb64760fed7ebdb63cc32952fed5.jpg

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc300-joelsolomon0507.html  



I did consider selling this bag to fund a Sackville or Zimbale, but I 
decided I'd rather tinker with this one to add some interior pockets and 
maybe a stiffener.  If I need something bigger or more waterproof someday, 
I'll get it when I know what I need rather than guessing about it now.

On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 6:24:33 AM UTC-7, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> One word... TWEED.   
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Tom Wyland]

One word... TWEED.   

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Lum Gim Fong]

Sackvilles come with stiffner, even better.
You could get a pretty penny for the Smythe to help fund the Sackville, too. 
Just an idea. Thinking outside the box. Why have weight of s rack unless really 
needed? And the I don’t think the Nittos are rated for any heavy weights anyway.
Of course, I understand aesthetics play alot into decision making. So depends 
which bags you like the looks of better.

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Lum Gim Fong]

Are the Smythe bags waterproof like Sackvilles?
I thought I heard they are not. If that is true, why not get a Sackville? They 
don’t need a rack (so less weight/less failure points) and you can put a 
coroplast stiffner on the bottom to keep it flat.

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Tom Wyland]

There is also the Nitto R-10, if you don't mind attaching to your seatpost. 
It allows the rack to snug up a little higher if you have lots of seat post 
exposed. It requires mid-seat-stay mounting points and doesn't have a 
taillight mount. It also doesn't have to sit level, which might be an 
advantage.

Tom


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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[dougP]

The R-14 is highly adjustable & the later ones are flat (no tombstone).  It 
looks good & has a tail light mounting plate.  A rack a bit bigger than you 
need for the bag is not a bad idea as it lets you strap on something if you 
need more carrying capacity.  Yoga mats, shoes, wet jackets, etc.

dougP

On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 2:07:19 PM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> I have a Nigel Smythe Country Bag which I want to provide support for, in 
> some sort of specific ways:
>
>- I want to keep the bag snugged up to the saddle, so the rack needs 
>to adjust to different heights 
>- I don’t want the bag to sit on top of any tombstone/load-stopper, so 
>the rack also needs to adjust back to front. 
>- I want to use the mid seat stay braze-ons, not the ones on the 
>dropouts.  
>
>  
>
> I was originally planning on using a Mark’s Rack, but I’m also considering 
> a Nitto R-14, and now I’m even wondering about the Pletscher Clem.  Has 
> anyone configured it this way?
>
>  
>
> I like the idea of the Mark’s rack, being small and swappable to the front 
> of the bike (I use a Rando bag on my other bike), but it’s out of stock 
> everywhere.  The R-14 is a little big for what I need, but not unreasonably 
> so.  The Pletscher is significantly bigger, but also cheaper and stronger 
> and has more options for carrying stuff.  I don’t carry much in the bag and 
> will mostly keep it attached to the seat and rack, but I’m willing to swap 
> out for a different rack if I ever need to carry more.  The Pletscher could 
> potentially fill both roles by changing the configuration when/if needed.  
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> -Eric
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Garth]

  It appears Alex's Cycle in Japan has them in stock. It says $112 converted 
and shipping to my area in Ohio, for example, about $22. Of course, they have 
lots of other cool stuff to add to that order ! 

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