[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
Bottom line, I screwed up selling my 60cm Ram, and I will not make the same mistake with my 59cm Roadeo. The Roadeo is a fairly expensive non-custom frameset, but it's a great design and the build quality and paint is impeccable. And the geo is perfect for someone that just plain enjoys riding his or her bike. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 7:45:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: > > I was looking for the Roadeo on the Riv site, and couldn't find it. I am > thinking of going to a Compass tubeless tire in a 700x35 size and was > wondering if it would fit my 59cm Roadeo. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
Dear John, Their lug work is cleaner than their TIG welding (NB I have owned two lugged Waterfords (a 2200 and a 2800) and three TIG Boulder Bicycles (an RS and two ARs)). Marc's son is really, really good with silver. I probably should have gotten my prototype Road Sport done with lugs. Best Regards, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 4:07:19 PM UTC-6, John Hawrylak wrote: > > talk to Waterford directly They still seem to produce a lugged > frame. Do they want to manufacture tig only?? > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > > On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:55:42 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: >> >> I imagine you could essentially order a Rambouillet or Rodeo as a custom >> and get it fit to you. >> >> On Monday, July 23, 2018, 12:49:04 PM CDT, Lum Gim Fong < >> john1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> So where to turn now for level-2degree max slope TT/regular length >> chainstays/wide tires/snappy ride fully lugged road bike? >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/rX23tDR_vxs/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsub...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
talk to Waterford directly They still seem to produce a lugged frame. Do they want to manufacture tig only?? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:55:42 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: > > I imagine you could essentially order a Rambouillet or Rodeo as a custom > and get it fit to you. > > On Monday, July 23, 2018, 12:49:04 PM CDT, Lum Gim Fong < > john1...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > So where to turn now for level-2degree max slope TT/regular length > chainstays/wide tires/snappy ride fully lugged road bike? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/rX23tDR_vxs/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsub...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
I imagine you could essentially order a Rambouillet or Rodeo as a custom and get it fit to you. On Monday, July 23, 2018, 12:49:04 PM CDT, Lum Gim Fong wrote: So where to turn now for level-2degree max slope TT/regular length chainstays/wide tires/snappy ride fully lugged road bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/rX23tDR_vxs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
So where to turn now for level-2degree max slope TT/regular length chainstays/wide tires/snappy ride fully lugged road bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
My guess is that whatever plans Riv had did not align with Waterford's production. Same with Boulder and Waterford. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
>From the current Rivebike page: "U.S.A. Framesets - On hold for now (July 2018) Give us a couple months to works something out" This may be like the Toyo made Rambouillet and Saluki that were to "take a nap" from which the never woke, or it may be a hiatus until suitable domestic sources are worked out. With Roadini coming from Taiwan, no need for Roadeo to also. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
It seems the Ram evolved into the AHH & SH & Roadini & the inclusion of 650B for the smaller frames. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 12:17:36 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote: > > On another subject, maybe with this switch to the Far East for > manufacturing, Riv could resurrect the Ram. Just a thought. > > On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 7:45:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: >> >> I was looking for the Roadeo on the Riv site, and couldn't find it. I am >> thinking of going to a Compass tubeless tire in a 700x35 size and was >> wondering if it would fit my 59cm Roadeo. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
It says 5-8 months, the last I heard was 9. Which explains why Riv/Grant has virtually given up the Waterford frames business: There's just too much money and time required of a buyer who might as well make the 'full custom Rivendell' leap at that point. They're getting perfectly good bikes from Taiwan you can ride home right now for reasonable money. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
Thanks for the link. Page updated 8/15/17 I think the lead time is longer than it states. Doubt you can get something in 5months. As an aside, didn't Boulder Bike stop taking orders because of Waterford supply issues? On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 9:13:49 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/rivendell-models-1 This link from the frame page seems to indicate the Rodeo can be a special order. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/rivendell-models-1 This link from the frame page seems to indicate the Rodeo can be a special order. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
>From what I understand, Waterford no longer has True Temper tubing. I still see builders builiding with it (Chris Kelly, for instance) but I assume this is old stock they have. The new company in USA is Vari Wall (https://shop.vari-wall.com/) I don't know where Waterford gets their tubing anymore. I'm sure you can still ask Riv about a Roadeo or any of their other USA made frames and you could get it ordered. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
On another subject, maybe with this switch to the Far East for manufacturing, Riv could resurrect the Ram. Just a thought. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 7:45:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: > > I was looking for the Roadeo on the Riv site, and couldn't find it. I am > thinking of going to a Compass tubeless tire in a 700x35 size and was > wondering if it would fit my 59cm Roadeo. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
Allright. Here's what I am going to try. I am going to have Steve Rex ( actually Doug, his AAA mechanic ) buy some Compass 700x35 extra lights and have Doug install them on my Williams' tubeless-ready wheelset. Down the road I will buy a compressor ( just a tank) so I can get the beads set. My go-to bikes are a Roadeo and a Steve Rex and both are set up to handle 700x35 tires. Can't wait to try tubeless. And, thanks for all the advise. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 7:45:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: > > I was looking for the Roadeo on the Riv site, and couldn't find it. I am > thinking of going to a Compass tubeless tire in a 700x35 size and was > wondering if it would fit my 59cm Roadeo. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
John, I would guess it might have to do with costs and supply. I think true temper moving out of bicycle business might've put a hiccup for them. Boulder bicycles also halted their Waterford-built Boulder bikes program. On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 4:36:09 AM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Do you think the problem with MUSA frames is just the cost or the ability > of Waterford to produce lugged frames. It could be a combination, high > cost, low demand, less vendor interest to commit resources. > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > > On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 12:12:13 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> I'm sure you still can, it's just not going to be promoted anymore >> because the price and wait got too close to "shoot, I might as well buy a >> custom." I predicted a good while ago that we would end up here, the >> production MUSA frames just weren't making sense anymore. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
Do you think the problem with MUSA frames is just the cost or the ability of Waterford to produce lugged frames. It could be a combination, high cost, low demand, less vendor interest to commit resources. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 12:12:13 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I'm sure you still can, it's just not going to be promoted anymore because > the price and wait got too close to "shoot, I might as well buy a custom." > I predicted a good while ago that we would end up here, the production MUSA > frames just weren't making sense anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
I'm sure you still can, it's just not going to be promoted anymore because the price and wait got too close to "shoot, I might as well buy a custom." I predicted a good while ago that we would end up here, the production MUSA frames just weren't making sense anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
Damn. Wish I had ordered one. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 11:00:55 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It sure looks gone to me, the metamorphosis to all MIT production Rivs is > almost complete. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?
According to the geometry page it should fit 700x35: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry mike austin tx On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 9:45:18 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote: > > I was looking for the Roadeo on the Riv site, and couldn't find it. I am > thinking of going to a Compass tubeless tire in a 700x35 size and was > wondering if it would fit my 59cm Roadeo. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
