[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-02-10 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Maybe my assessment of the market on Frank Jones Senor is pretty accurate.  
That very slick build, offered for $2800, is now being offered for $2200.  
That's a lot closer to something I might be able to roll with.

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:11:11 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, but 
> I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build strikes 
> me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a high-end 
> build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially zero cult 
> following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer brakes?  HAHA
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll post 
>> the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> APPROVE!
>>>
>>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, 
>>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was 
>>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>>
 Hi Bunch,

 *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
 swapped. Photos.*

 I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts 
 of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
 toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
 cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
 imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
 but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. 
 Or 
 Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 

 I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
 John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
 and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - 
 one 
 thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 

 For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
 frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
 I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
 that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
 never let up. 

 Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
 and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but 
 in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
 but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
 fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, 
 and 
 we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
 Magic Paint!) 

 I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
 shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
 lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
 slicks.

 Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
 comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
 stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
 it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
 (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.

 Patch
 BK/NYC
  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-02-01 Thread Chris Halasz 
Drops are properly tangential to Earth's surface, orthogonal to earth 
center. 

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-8 Brady Smith wrote:

> Great bike! I also share Paul's enthusiasm for the view. Until June I 
> lived right on the other side of the bridge from where that shot was taken 
> and rode my bike into the city for work. Utah has natural canyons as 
> opposed to man-made ones, but I do miss those long, rolling hills along the 
> Hudson and the whole NYC bike commuter scene.  
>
> Brady in SLC
>
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:17:15 PM UTC-7 Paul Brodek wrote:
>
>> Fabulous Fort Lee!! Go Bridgemen!!! Er, Bridgepeople
>>
>> Paul "Formerly From Fort Lee" Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:28:48 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bunch,
>>>
>>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
>>> swapped. Photos.*
>>>
>>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts 
>>> of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
>>> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
>>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
>>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
>>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. Or 
>>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>>>
>>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
>>> John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
>>> and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - one 
>>> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>>>
>>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
>>> frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
>>> I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
>>> that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
>>> never let up. 
>>>
>>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
>>> and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but 
>>> in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
>>> but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
>>> fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, and 
>>> we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
>>> Magic Paint!) 
>>>
>>> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
>>> shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
>>> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
>>> slicks.
>>>
>>> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
>>> comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
>>> stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
>>> it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
>>> (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>>>
>>> Patch
>>> BK/NYC
>>>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-02-01 Thread Brady Smith 
Great bike! I also share Paul's enthusiasm for the view. Until June I lived 
right on the other side of the bridge from where that shot was taken and 
rode my bike into the city for work. Utah has natural canyons as opposed to 
man-made ones, but I do miss those long, rolling hills along the Hudson and 
the whole NYC bike commuter scene.  

Brady in SLC

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:17:15 PM UTC-7 Paul Brodek wrote:

> Fabulous Fort Lee!! Go Bridgemen!!! Er, Bridgepeople
>
> Paul "Formerly From Fort Lee" Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:28:48 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Hi Bunch,
>>
>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
>> swapped. Photos.*
>>
>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts of 
>> builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
>> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. Or 
>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>>
>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
>> John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
>> and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - one 
>> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>>
>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
>> frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
>> I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
>> that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
>> never let up. 
>>
>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, and 
>> I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but in a 
>> size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, but it 
>> didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would fit me 
>> better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, and we 
>> packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black Magic 
>> Paint!) 
>>
>> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
>> shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
>> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
>> slicks.
>>
>> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
>> comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
>> stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
>> it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
>> (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>>
>> Patch
>> BK/NYC
>>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-02-01 Thread Paul Brodek 
Fabulous Fort Lee!! Go Bridgemen!!! Er, Bridgepeople

Paul "Formerly From Fort Lee" Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:28:48 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:

> Hi Bunch,
>
> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
> swapped. Photos.*
>
> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts of 
> builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. Or 
> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>
> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named John 
> who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes and 
> about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - one 
> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>
> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
> frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
> I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
> that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
> never let up. 
>
> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, and 
> I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but in a 
> size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, but it 
> didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would fit me 
> better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, and we 
> packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black Magic 
> Paint!) 
>
> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, shiny 
> VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno lighting, Paul 
> brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking slicks.
>
> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
> comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
> stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
> it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
> (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>
> Patch
> BK/NYC
>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-02-01 Thread Max S 
"No one asked, but I thought I'd share that the rear fender is mounted 
using these safety tabs 
.
 
They look nice enough and allow for easy-enough wheel removal with the 
rear-facing dropouts. Handy for the (very) occasional hill out here on 
which I would enjoy 'shifting' from 44x16 to 44x19." 

I noticed that and for a moment thought you had them backwards, but this is 
an interesting idea! I use them with my front metal fender, but not the 
rear. (For that I have been using a Paul SS/Fixed hub that uses bolts, upon 
removal of which the wheel can be dropped out vertically. There are some 
other hubs that use a similar set-up. Retrogression sells many of them.) 

- Max "learn something new today" in A2

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:53:38 PM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:

> Thanks folks - truly an honor to get an 'APPROVE' from Bill! I'm a huge 
> fan of his whole stable, to the extent that he's shared it here or iBob 
> over the last few years... 
>
> I thought I really liked orange; but I think I prefer the QB in silver 
> now. Orange may be the fastest color but silver is the plane-iest!
>
> No one asked, but I thought I'd share that the rear fender is mounted 
> using these safety tabs 
> .
>  
> They look nice enough and allow for easy-enough wheel removal with the 
> rear-facing dropouts. Handy for the (very) occasional hill out here on 
> which I would enjoy 'shifting' from 44x16 to 44x19.
>
> Patch
>
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:50:50 PM UTC-5 Dave Grossman wrote:
>
>> That is a great story!  Only Riv's would have such a history!  Matt has 
>> my old green 58 and I'm currently on Jamisons old 62 so this is the 
>> carousel of QBs!
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:39:35 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Laing pointed out the FJSr has a "smaller diameter tube set".  
>>>
>>> It's just the downtube that is smaller diameter, but I agree with you 
>>> that the planing zealots should love that.  That said, the planing zealots 
>>> generally scoff at long chainstays and/or easily find other things to 
>>> complain about.  
>>>
>>> If that $1500 MSRP frameset was being sold used for $750, I'd grab it.  
>>> I don't think I could part out that $2800 build to get it down to $750 for 
>>> a F/F/HS.  
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:22:12 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>>>
 I would classify the FJ Sr as the Rivendell most likely to "plane" of 
 any recent Rivendell bike doe to it's smaller diameter tube set, that is, 
 if I had any idea what "planing" was. 

 Laing

 On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:11:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, 
> but I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build 
> strikes me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a 
> high-end build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially 
> zero cult following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer 
> brakes?  HAHA
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll 
>> post the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> APPROVE!
>>>
>>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it 
>>> anyway, 
>>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green 
>>> was 
>>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>>
 Hi Bunch,

 *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
 swapped. Photos.*

 I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all 
 sorts of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow 
 end 
 of a toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, 
 a 
 cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
 imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so 
 far) 
 but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain 
 Mixte. Or 
 Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 

 I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel 
 nam

[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard 
I am also this naive. The number of used bikes I see with "get all my money 
back" prices these days makes me nauseous. Yay for them if they can get it, 
yay for me that I end up not spending anything! 

Joe Bernard

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:11:11 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, but 
> I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build strikes 
> me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a high-end 
> build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially zero cult 
> following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer brakes?  HAHA
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll post 
>> the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> APPROVE!
>>>
>>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, 
>>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was 
>>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>>
 Hi Bunch,

 *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
 swapped. Photos.*

 I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts 
 of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
 toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
 cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
 imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
 but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. 
 Or 
 Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 

 I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
 John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
 and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - 
 one 
 thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 

 For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
 frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
 I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
 that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
 never let up. 

 Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
 and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but 
 in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
 but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
 fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, 
 and 
 we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
 Magic Paint!) 

 I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
 shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
 lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
 slicks.

 Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
 comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
 stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
 it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
 (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.

 Patch
 BK/NYC
  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread Patch T 
Thanks folks - truly an honor to get an 'APPROVE' from Bill! I'm a huge fan 
of his whole stable, to the extent that he's shared it here or iBob over 
the last few years... 

I thought I really liked orange; but I think I prefer the QB in silver now. 
Orange may be the fastest color but silver is the plane-iest!

No one asked, but I thought I'd share that the rear fender is mounted using 
these 
safety tabs 
.
 
They look nice enough and allow for easy-enough wheel removal with the 
rear-facing dropouts. Handy for the (very) occasional hill out here on 
which I would enjoy 'shifting' from 44x16 to 44x19.

Patch


On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:50:50 PM UTC-5 Dave Grossman wrote:

> That is a great story!  Only Riv's would have such a history!  Matt has my 
> old green 58 and I'm currently on Jamisons old 62 so this is the carousel 
> of QBs!
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:39:35 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Laing pointed out the FJSr has a "smaller diameter tube set".  
>>
>> It's just the downtube that is smaller diameter, but I agree with you 
>> that the planing zealots should love that.  That said, the planing zealots 
>> generally scoff at long chainstays and/or easily find other things to 
>> complain about.  
>>
>> If that $1500 MSRP frameset was being sold used for $750, I'd grab it.  I 
>> don't think I could part out that $2800 build to get it down to $750 for a 
>> F/F/HS.  
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:22:12 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I would classify the FJ Sr as the Rivendell most likely to "plane" of 
>>> any recent Rivendell bike doe to it's smaller diameter tube set, that is, 
>>> if I had any idea what "planing" was. 
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:11:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, 
 but I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build 
 strikes me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a 
 high-end build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially 
 zero cult following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer 
 brakes?  HAHA

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Bill,
> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll 
> post the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
> Doug
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> APPROVE!
>>
>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it 
>> anyway, 
>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green 
>> was 
>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bunch,
>>>
>>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
>>> swapped. Photos.*
>>>
>>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all 
>>> sorts of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow 
>>> end 
>>> of a toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, 
>>> a 
>>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
>>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so 
>>> far) 
>>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain 
>>> Mixte. Or 
>>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>>>
>>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel 
>>> named John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot 
>>> about 
>>> bikes and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years 
>>> since 
>>> - one thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I 
>>> thought. 
>>>
>>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used 
>>> to frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, 
>>> or 
>>> when I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly 
>>> purchase that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - 
>>> however, he never let up. 
>>>
>>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in 
>>> NYC, and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver 
>>> Quickbeam - 
>>> but in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French 
>>> fit, but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him

[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread Dave Grossman 
That is a great story!  Only Riv's would have such a history!  Matt has my 
old green 58 and I'm currently on Jamisons old 62 so this is the carousel 
of QBs!

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:39:35 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Laing pointed out the FJSr has a "smaller diameter tube set".  
>
> It's just the downtube that is smaller diameter, but I agree with you that 
> the planing zealots should love that.  That said, the planing zealots 
> generally scoff at long chainstays and/or easily find other things to 
> complain about.  
>
> If that $1500 MSRP frameset was being sold used for $750, I'd grab it.  I 
> don't think I could part out that $2800 build to get it down to $750 for a 
> F/F/HS.  
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:22:12 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>
>> I would classify the FJ Sr as the Rivendell most likely to "plane" of any 
>> recent Rivendell bike doe to it's smaller diameter tube set, that is, if I 
>> had any idea what "planing" was. 
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:11:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, 
>>> but I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build 
>>> strikes me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a 
>>> high-end build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially 
>>> zero cult following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer 
>>> brakes?  HAHA
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Bill,
 There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll 
 post the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
 Doug

 On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> APPROVE!
>
> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, 
> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green 
> was 
> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Hi Bunch,
>>
>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
>> swapped. Photos.*
>>
>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all 
>> sorts of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow 
>> end 
>> of a toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. 
>> Or 
>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>>
>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
>> John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
>> and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - 
>> one 
>> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>>
>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used 
>> to frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or 
>> when I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly 
>> purchase that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - 
>> however, he never let up. 
>>
>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
>> and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - 
>> but 
>> in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
>> but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
>> fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, 
>> and 
>> we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
>> Magic Paint!) 
>>
>> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
>> shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
>> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
>> slicks.
>>
>> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily 
>> *more* comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a 
>> shorter stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of 
>> being 
>> *in* it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and 
>> different (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>>
>> Patch
>> BK/NYC
>>  [image: image

[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Laing pointed out the FJSr has a "smaller diameter tube set".  

It's just the downtube that is smaller diameter, but I agree with you that 
the planing zealots should love that.  That said, the planing zealots 
generally scoff at long chainstays and/or easily find other things to 
complain about.  

If that $1500 MSRP frameset was being sold used for $750, I'd grab it.  I 
don't think I could part out that $2800 build to get it down to $750 for a 
F/F/HS.  

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:22:12 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:

> I would classify the FJ Sr as the Rivendell most likely to "plane" of any 
> recent Rivendell bike doe to it's smaller diameter tube set, that is, if I 
> had any idea what "planing" was. 
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:11:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, 
>> but I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build 
>> strikes me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a 
>> high-end build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially 
>> zero cult following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer 
>> brakes?  HAHA
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll 
>>> post the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 APPROVE!

 I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
 don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, 
 but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was 
 a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:

> Hi Bunch,
>
> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
> swapped. Photos.*
>
> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts 
> of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. 
> Or 
> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>
> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
> John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
> and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - 
> one 
> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>
> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used 
> to frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or 
> when I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly 
> purchase that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - 
> however, he never let up. 
>
> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
> and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but 
> in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
> but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
> fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, 
> and 
> we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
> Magic Paint!) 
>
> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
> shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
> slicks.
>
> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily 
> *more* comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a 
> shorter stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of 
> being 
> *in* it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and 
> different (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>
> Patch
> BK/NYC
>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>


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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread lconley 
I would classify the FJ Sr as the Rivendell most likely to "plane" of any 
recent Rivendell bike doe to it's smaller diameter tube set, that is, if I 
had any idea what "planing" was. 

Laing

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:11:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, but 
> I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build strikes 
> me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a high-end 
> build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially zero cult 
> following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer brakes?  HAHA
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll post 
>> the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> APPROVE!
>>>
>>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, 
>>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was 
>>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>>
 Hi Bunch,

 *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
 swapped. Photos.*

 I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts 
 of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
 toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
 cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
 imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
 but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. 
 Or 
 Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 

 I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
 John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
 and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - 
 one 
 thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 

 For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
 frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
 I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
 that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
 never let up. 

 Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
 and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but 
 in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
 but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
 fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, 
 and 
 we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
 Magic Paint!) 

 I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
 shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
 lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
 slicks.

 Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
 comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
 stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
 it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
 (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.

 Patch
 BK/NYC
  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, but 
I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build strikes 
me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a high-end 
build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially zero cult 
following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer brakes?  HAHA

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Bill,
> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll post 
> the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
> Doug
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> APPROVE!
>>
>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, 
>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was 
>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bunch,
>>>
>>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
>>> swapped. Photos.*
>>>
>>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts 
>>> of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
>>> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
>>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
>>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
>>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. Or 
>>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>>>
>>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
>>> John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
>>> and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - one 
>>> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>>>
>>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
>>> frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
>>> I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
>>> that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
>>> never let up. 
>>>
>>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
>>> and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but 
>>> in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
>>> but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
>>> fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, and 
>>> we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
>>> Magic Paint!) 
>>>
>>> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
>>> shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
>>> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
>>> slicks.
>>>
>>> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
>>> comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
>>> stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
>>> it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
>>> (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>>>
>>> Patch
>>> BK/NYC
>>>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread Matt Beecher 
I'd like a silver 58 too, just for the kickstand plate.  For now, I am 
thoroughly enjoying my green 58, or at least I will again in the spring.  
I'm not yet sure if I want it enough to deal with shipping, then selling 
mine, but you never know.  

Best regards,
Matt - competition for Bill - Beecher

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:07:07 AM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:

> Patch, that's a great looking bike. I'm always impressed with how 
> versatile the QB/S1 are, commuter, rando-like, trail, does it all, as long 
> as it's not too hilly (DP would recommend walking in that case, lowest 
> common gear).
>
> Good luck,
> JohnS 
>
> Who's only Riv is an orange QB.
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:54:44 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll post 
>> the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> APPROVE!
>>>
>>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, 
>>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was 
>>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>>
 Hi Bunch,

 *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
 swapped. Photos.*

 I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts 
 of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
 toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
 cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
 imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
 but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. 
 Or 
 Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 

 I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
 John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
 and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - 
 one 
 thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 

 For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
 frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
 I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
 that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
 never let up. 

 Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
 and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but 
 in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
 but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
 fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, 
 and 
 we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
 Magic Paint!) 

 I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
 shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
 lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
 slicks.

 Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
 comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
 stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
 it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
 (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.

 Patch
 BK/NYC
  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread JohnS 
Patch, that's a great looking bike. I'm always impressed with how versatile 
the QB/S1 are, commuter, rando-like, trail, does it all, as long as it's 
not too hilly (DP would recommend walking in that case, lowest common gear).

Good luck,
JohnS 

Who's only Riv is an orange QB.

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:54:44 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> Bill,
> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll post 
> the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
> Doug
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> APPROVE!
>>
>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, 
>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was 
>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bunch,
>>>
>>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
>>> swapped. Photos.*
>>>
>>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts 
>>> of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
>>> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
>>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
>>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
>>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. Or 
>>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>>>
>>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
>>> John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
>>> and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - one 
>>> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>>>
>>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
>>> frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
>>> I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
>>> that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
>>> never let up. 
>>>
>>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, 
>>> and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but 
>>> in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, 
>>> but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would 
>>> fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, and 
>>> we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black 
>>> Magic Paint!) 
>>>
>>> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
>>> shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
>>> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
>>> slicks.
>>>
>>> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
>>> comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
>>> stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
>>> it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
>>> (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>>>
>>> Patch
>>> BK/NYC
>>>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread Doug H. 
Bill,
There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll post 
the link in case you hadn't seen 
it. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
Doug

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> APPROVE!
>
> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I don't 
> like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, but I'm 
> not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was a 58cm 
> silver, I'd already have it...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Hi Bunch,
>>
>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
>> swapped. Photos.*
>>
>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts of 
>> builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
>> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. Or 
>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>>
>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named 
>> John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes 
>> and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - one 
>> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>>
>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
>> frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
>> I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
>> that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
>> never let up. 
>>
>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, and 
>> I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but in a 
>> size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, but it 
>> didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would fit me 
>> better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, and we 
>> packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black Magic 
>> Paint!) 
>>
>> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, 
>> shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno 
>> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
>> slicks.
>>
>> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
>> comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
>> stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
>> it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
>> (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>>
>> Patch
>> BK/NYC
>>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

2022-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay 
APPROVE!

I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I don't 
like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it anyway, but I'm 
not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green was a 58cm 
silver, I'd already have it...

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:

> Hi Bunch,
>
> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
> swapped. Photos.*
>
> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts of 
> builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a 
> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a 
> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far) 
> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. Or 
> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>
> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named John 
> who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes and 
> about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - one 
> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought. 
>
> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to 
> frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when 
> I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase 
> that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he 
> never let up. 
>
> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC, and 
> I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but in a 
> size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit, but it 
> didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would fit me 
> better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, and we 
> packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black Magic 
> Paint!) 
>
> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank, shiny 
> VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno lighting, Paul 
> brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking slicks.
>
> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more* 
> comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter 
> stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in* 
> it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different 
> (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>
> Patch
> BK/NYC
>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>

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