[RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
Hate to pile on, but you are riding dogs for tires. Switch to one of the quality 650Bs and get back to us. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
Funny how for a while, the posts all seemed to lament the passing of Ram/Rom and lately we hear from the Ram/Rom “haters”. Similarly now 650B size. The selling points for me on 650B were 2 fold. First, the larger volume of air in the tire gives a plusher ride, especially over coarse surfaces. I find they also grip well in corners. Using stiff tires or high pressures negates that advantage. Second, the lower axle height of a 650B lets me straddle a larger frame. 50 CM in 700 size wheels became 54 in 650B. I prefer the larger frame size, particularly when riding in drops (as into a headwind). I think they look great too. Sent from Windows Mail From: Matthew J Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 6:25 AM To: RBW - Owners Hate to pile on, but you are riding dogs for tires. Switch to one of the quality 650Bs and get back to us. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
Don't get me wrong, beautiful bike. But I think it might be my tire selection. The first few were lumpy sluggish, the other was a little too balloon-ish for my taste. So why does Riv even sell these tires if they stink!? Anyways, I have a pair of Niftys on order and hopefully they'll change my opinion. Those Gran Bois looks nice too so we'll see. Thanks for everyone's help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
Please remember there is a lot more going on with a bike than just the wheel size. For example smaller wheeled bikes tend to have less bottom bracket drop. Comparing the 650b and 700c hillsens, the drop differs by 13mm. The difference in bsd between the two wheel sizes is 38mm, so the radius differs by 19. Subtracting off the drop leaves a difference of only 0.6cm. As frame sizes go a delta of about 1/2 a cm is fairly trivial. I suppose if you are right in the middle of two sizes it might matter but really it doesn't seem picking wheel size to affect stand over makes sense. How does a 54cm 650b bike equate to a 50cm 700c bike on standover? Also air volume is only indirectly related to a plush ride. The primary driver is tire pressure. Once a tire is big enough to avoid pinch flatting and rim damage at pressures low enough to give the comfort one wants, I don't see how going even bigger makes the ride plusher. In fact for a given tire pressure, a wider tire feels harder. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 4:41:27 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Funny how for a while, the posts all seemed to lament the passing of Ram/Rom and lately we hear from the Ram/Rom “haters”. Similarly now 650B size. The selling points for me on 650B were 2 fold. First, the larger volume of air in the tire gives a plusher ride, especially over coarse surfaces. I find they also grip well in corners. Using stiff tires or high pressures negates that advantage. Second, the lower axle height of a 650B lets me straddle a larger frame. 50 CM in 700 size wheels became 54 in 650B. I prefer the larger frame size, particularly when riding in drops (as into a headwind). I think they look great too. Sent from Windows Mail *From:* Matthew J javascript: *Sent:* Sunday, April 06, 2014 6:25 AM *To:* RBW - Owners javascript: Hate to pile on, but you are riding dogs for tires. Switch to one of the quality 650Bs and get back to us. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
The tires don't stink, though they may not be the sort of tires you like. Apparently some folks like uber stout bomb proof tires, and some others prefer the lightest supplest tires they can find. Unless I missed it you have not said what tires you use on your Atlantis. I have a bike with 650b GB cypres (32mm) tires, and another with Jack Brown green (33mm) tires. As best I can tell their characteristics are fairly similar though the JB looks more balloonish than the Cypres. That may be because I have the JBs on narrower rims. Compared to the Maxy Fasties, the Niftys have thicker tread, reinforced sidewalls, and a kevlar belt. That sounds like the difference between the green and blue Jack Browns. Riv recommends the BLUE for for trails, commuting, tandems, or just all-around riding if you aren't weight-obsessed, and the green is the one we recommend fore pure road riding. If you find the Niftys slow, likely someone will suggest you should have bought the Maxy Fasties. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:20:40 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote: Don't get me wrong, beautiful bike. But I think it might be my tire selection. The first few were lumpy sluggish, the other was a little too balloon-ish for my taste. So why does Riv even sell these tires if they stink!? Anyways, I have a pair of Niftys on order and hopefully they'll change my opinion. Those Gran Bois looks nice too so we'll see. Thanks for everyone's help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
I run Marathon Racers, 26x1.6 on the tandem and really like them. But I run Pari Motos on both the Saluki my '84 Trek and absolutely love the ride. Michael On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:01:00 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote: Finally got the Saluki built up, I believe it'll be my 5th Rivendell. And I've taken it on several trips, a 30 mile ride around Detroit, commuted a bunch, ect but for some reason I'm not digging the 650b platform. I keep giving it just one more chance to prove it has the moxy to remain in the stable but it's getting difficult because the bike rack is getting crowded! I've tried several tires from Fatty Rumpkins, to Contis, to Marathons but I really prefer my 26 Atlantis. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice ride but I find it a little sluggish at times and doesn't compare to the smooth Atlantis ride. Anyone with a similar experience with 650b not being the bees knees as touted? What am I missing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
I run Gran Bois Cypress; love them, and have heard good things about the Soma xpress On Saturday, April 5, 2014 11:01:00 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote: Finally got the Saluki built up, I believe it'll be my 5th Rivendell. And I've taken it on several trips, a 30 mile ride around Detroit, commuted a bunch, ect but for some reason I'm not digging the 650b platform. I keep giving it just one more chance to prove it has the moxy to remain in the stable but it's getting difficult because the bike rack is getting crowded! I've tried several tires from Fatty Rumpkins, to Contis, to Marathons but I really prefer my 26 Atlantis. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice ride but I find it a little sluggish at times and doesn't compare to the smooth Atlantis ride. Anyone with a similar experience with 650b not being the bees knees as touted? What am I missing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
Hetres are great tires. My wife runs the Soma B-Lines on her Betty and is really happy with those. A little less $. On Apr 5, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: I run Gran Bois Cypress; love them, and have heard good things about the Soma xpress On Saturday, April 5, 2014 11:01:00 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote: Finally got the Saluki built up, I believe it'll be my 5th Rivendell. And I've taken it on several trips, a 30 mile ride around Detroit, commuted a bunch, ect but for some reason I'm not digging the 650b platform. I keep giving it just one more chance to prove it has the moxy to remain in the stable but it's getting difficult because the bike rack is getting crowded! I've tried several tires from Fatty Rumpkins, to Contis, to Marathons but I really prefer my 26 Atlantis. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice ride but I find it a little sluggish at times and doesn't compare to the smooth Atlantis ride. Anyone with a similar experience with 650b not being the bees knees as touted? What am I missing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
It's a gross generalization, but there are lousy tires in every wheelsize. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 11:01:00 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote: Finally got the Saluki built up, I believe it'll be my 5th Rivendell. And I've taken it on several trips, a 30 mile ride around Detroit, commuted a bunch, ect but for some reason I'm not digging the 650b platform. I keep giving it just one more chance to prove it has the moxy to remain in the stable but it's getting difficult because the bike rack is getting crowded! I've tried several tires from Fatty Rumpkins, to Contis, to Marathons but I really prefer my 26 Atlantis. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice ride but I find it a little sluggish at times and doesn't compare to the smooth Atlantis ride. Anyone with a similar experience with 650b not being the bees knees as touted? What am I missing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?
Hutchinsons -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
