Re: [RBW] Re: Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree (Ferry option)

2014-07-12 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
If I were descending from the ridge with a loaded bike, I would actually 
take the "Paved In Name Only" road until you see a connector trail (on 
Google Maps it is Bay Hills (the "paved") to Echo Trail.  Then I would go 
down the Bay View Trail which works its way down to the campground.  The 
"Back Ranch Trail" was the original Fire Road access which climbs steeply 
to the ridge.  It is very rutted and hard-baked in places and it takes 
attention and control to descend.  I would not really want to do that if my 
bike had another 25 pounds on it.  You can also walk it - the worst of it 
is maybe a 1/2 mile (at most).  It's adventureous

I'm not quite sure about the other method - do you mean the fire roads 
coming up from Mann Drive or from Main off of Pt. San Pedro?  

There's definitely climbing on both of those - I don't usually ride those 
trails, so I'm not sure of the condition of either.  I think the FR off of 
Main Drive is a bit more gradual, but both require you to crest out over 
the same hill.  There will be NO WATER and you'll be on the south facing 
side.  

hope that helps!

- j

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree (Ferry option)

2014-07-11 Thread Anne Paulson
Jim, thanks!

"The true climbing option would be to make your way to the Dominican
College via Grand Avenue (after crossing under the freeway at 4th or 5th)
and finding Locust Ave which becomes Gold Hill Grade.  This dead ends into
a Fire Road which climbs steeply in spots to the Nike Missle Site on the
ridge above China Camp SP.  Then you would have to descend on The Most
Rutted "Paved" Road In the County™ or via the steeper sections of China
Camp fire roads to the more moderate trails and then the campground."

It looks like there is another option, climbing up Bayview from the marina,
getting to a fire road that connects to Gold Hill and then descending as
you suggest, either via the badly paved road or, more likely, the fire road
that goes right to the campground. Do you know anything about that option?
How technical are these fire roads, apart from being steep?



On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Cyclofiend Jim 
wrote:

> Regarding Marin routes:
>
> From the Larkspur Ferry, you can access the Cal Park tunnel path to San
> Rafael.  This is flat (ish).
>
> Once in San Rafael, the path terminates on Anderson Drive - I would follow
> that WEST towards downtown. (Rather than use the direct-seeming, but
> hellishly narrow and fast-trafficked Bellam to Francisco Blvd route).  From
> Anderson, you can pick up Dubois which becomes Lincoln Ave.  From Lincoln
> Ave, you can either pick up the Lincoln Ave Bike Path (via Pacheco or
> Paloma - the terminus at Mission is a little wacky to navigate sometimes -
> fast traffic).  The Bike Path ends at Merrydale, which connects to North
> San Pedro to China Camp SP.
>
> Instead of that, you could divert east on 4th (or 5th - but I would
> definitely avoid 2nd - four/five lanes one way with all kinds of wacky
> freeway onramp lanes).  That will run you into Union Street, which you can
> take (past Whole Foods) to a stop light to access Pt. San Pedro (or
> technically 3rd Street at that point...)  You can follow the
> brand-spankin-new pavement around to the east end of China Camp SP and then
> pick up the trails or continue around the point to the campsite.  There are
> a couple minor rises on Pt. San Pedro - one near Loch Lomond Yacht harbor
> and the other closer to the camp.
>
> The true climbing option would be to make your way to the Dominican
> College via Grand Avenue (after crossing under the freeway at 4th or 5th)
> and finding Locust Ave which becomes Gold Hill Grade.  This dead ends into
> a Fire Road which climbs steeply in spots to the Nike Missle Site on the
> ridge above China Camp SP.  Then you would have to descend on The Most
> Rutted "Paved" Road In the County™ or via the steeper sections of China
> Camp fire roads to the more moderate trails and then the campground.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> - Jim / cyclofiend
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[RBW] Re: Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree (Ferry option)

2014-07-11 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Regarding Marin routes:

>From the Larkspur Ferry, you can access the Cal Park tunnel path to San 
Rafael.  This is flat (ish).  

Once in San Rafael, the path terminates on Anderson Drive - I would follow 
that WEST towards downtown. (Rather than use the direct-seeming, but 
hellishly narrow and fast-trafficked Bellam to Francisco Blvd route).  From 
Anderson, you can pick up Dubois which becomes Lincoln Ave.  From Lincoln 
Ave, you can either pick up the Lincoln Ave Bike Path (via Pacheco or 
Paloma - the terminus at Mission is a little wacky to navigate sometimes - 
fast traffic).  The Bike Path ends at Merrydale, which connects to North 
San Pedro to China Camp SP.  

Instead of that, you could divert east on 4th (or 5th - but I would 
definitely avoid 2nd - four/five lanes one way with all kinds of wacky 
freeway onramp lanes).  That will run you into Union Street, which you can 
take (past Whole Foods) to a stop light to access Pt. San Pedro (or 
technically 3rd Street at that point...)  You can follow the 
brand-spankin-new pavement around to the east end of China Camp SP and then 
pick up the trails or continue around the point to the campsite.  There are 
a couple minor rises on Pt. San Pedro - one near Loch Lomond Yacht harbor 
and the other closer to the camp.  

The true climbing option would be to make your way to the Dominican College 
via Grand Avenue (after crossing under the freeway at 4th or 5th) and 
finding Locust Ave which becomes Gold Hill Grade.  This dead ends into a 
Fire Road which climbs steeply in spots to the Nike Missle Site on the 
ridge above China Camp SP.  Then you would have to descend on The Most 
Rutted "Paved" Road In the County™ or via the steeper sections of China 
Camp fire roads to the more moderate trails and then the campground. 

Hope that helps!

- Jim / cyclofiend

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[RBW] Re: Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree (Ferry option)

2014-07-09 Thread Anne Paulson
Hmm. Having gone out and bought a Marin bike map, I notice that instead of
riding around the peninsula from San Rafael to China Camp, it's possible to
go through the peninsula. Climbing, of course, on dirt, I need hardly say.
So I'm thinking that maybe the Ferry option ride won't be quite as
super-easy as originally advertised. (But there will be a super-easy
option, and it's impossible to get lost on the super-easy option.)


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Anne Paulson 
wrote:

> For those who want to join me on the super-easy option: I'll be taking the
> Baby Bullet train to SF, arriving at 11:39. I'll ride to the Ferry
> Building, then take the Larkspur Ferry ($10, and it's scenic), then ride at
> a leisurely pace (which is the only kind of pace I can do on the Krampus)
> to China Camp.
>
> Meet me on the train, meet me at the Ferry Building where I'll be
> acquiring some provender, or meet me on the ferry. I should be easy to
> identify. I'll be the one on the bike with the enormous tires.
>
> --
> -- Anne Paulson
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
>



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