Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

2023-05-19 Thread 藍俊彪 
> I love the orange Roadinis and I really like your build.  Some may not
> agree, but there is something about a bike whose rider pushes it beyond its
> design intent.Is that an Shimano Ultegra crank that's you've set up as
> a 1x? Looks good,
>
> That is indeed an Ultegra SL triple crank retrofitted with  a Wolftooth
38t chainring.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

2023-05-19 Thread John Bokman 
Piaw, thanks for the comments and pictures! Looks like you're having loads 
of fun.

I would likely be running  downtube shifters and a 2x with a long cage 
derailieur to get my low gears. You must be running, what,  an 11x50? I'm 
sorry for the redundant question if it's listed on the website,  but are 
these oversized tubes? They look to be 28.6cm at least? Yet you still feel 
it is a compliant frame? (No judgement, just trying to decipher.)

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 5:35:17 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here are some pictures of my Roadini: 
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/XO7eDWt_RaCyVFynaZsftA.vhwY43mas9VqIf5gM0Swqo
>
> The bike as pictured weighs 24 pounds. It was 21 pounds with no toolbag 
> and lighter wheels and 30mm tires. It's possible to get lighter steel (or 
> titanium) bikes, but then the costs go up dramatically as you're likely to 
> have to go custom with correspondingly high wait times.
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:26 PM John Bokman  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the review! As a daily drop-bar Sam rider, I'm well accustomed 
>> to the Rivendell ride. It's been a great bike for my uses: commuting, heavy 
>> loading. But, as a light (155# @ 6 foot tall), spinner,  I wish for a bike 
>> that is lighter, less stiff, and more flexible to ride when I want to 
>> charge hills and generally explore at speed on day rides. I am interested 
>> in this frame for these reasons. But I hesitate because I'm not sure of the 
>> tubing specs. I don't want it to be too much bike for me! Sam is less than 
>> ideal on the rides I imagine doing on the Roadini.
>>
>> I'd love to see some photos of your machine if you have any available.
>>
>> John
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Max tire width according to Rivendell is 42mm. I don't like to push it 
>>> that close, so I think in practice I won't run anything more than 38mm 
>>> actual width. I have no TCO on the Roadini. The TCO exists on my custom 
>>> touring bike, which has a geometry copied from the 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 
>>> with a longer chainstay and lower BB.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:55 AM Ian A  wrote:
>>>
 Piaw,

 Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide 
 tires and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with and 
 without fenders are? 

 Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip overlap 
 (TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on that. Do you experience 
 TCO on the Roadini?  I wasn't quite sure if you were referencing the 
 Roadini or an idea for a custom in this snippet of the review "  It 
 gets rid of the toe clip overlap (which doesn't bother me but now that I 
 know how to solve it without making a bike handle badly".

 IanA Alberta Canada
 On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've now ridden my Roadini for 1000 miles, and I wrote my review: 
> https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html
>
> I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say that gravel bikes are 
> simply 1990s style mountain bikes with 700c wheels and 1x drivetrains.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

2023-05-19 Thread Steve 
I love the orange Roadinis and I really like your build.  Some may not 
agree, but there is something about a bike whose rider pushes it beyond its 
design intent.Is that an Shimano Ultegra crank that's you've set up as 
a 1x? Looks good,
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 8:35:17 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here are some pictures of my Roadini: 
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/XO7eDWt_RaCyVFynaZsftA.vhwY43mas9VqIf5gM0Swqo
>
> The bike as pictured weighs 24 pounds. It was 21 pounds with no toolbag 
> and lighter wheels and 30mm tires. It's possible to get lighter steel (or 
> titanium) bikes, but then the costs go up dramatically as you're likely to 
> have to go custom with correspondingly high wait times.
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:26 PM John Bokman  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the review! As a daily drop-bar Sam rider, I'm well accustomed 
>> to the Rivendell ride. It's been a great bike for my uses: commuting, heavy 
>> loading. But, as a light (155# @ 6 foot tall), spinner,  I wish for a bike 
>> that is lighter, less stiff, and more flexible to ride when I want to 
>> charge hills and generally explore at speed on day rides. I am interested 
>> in this frame for these reasons. But I hesitate because I'm not sure of the 
>> tubing specs. I don't want it to be too much bike for me! Sam is less than 
>> ideal on the rides I imagine doing on the Roadini.
>>
>> I'd love to see some photos of your machine if you have any available.
>>
>> John
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Max tire width according to Rivendell is 42mm. I don't like to push it 
>>> that close, so I think in practice I won't run anything more than 38mm 
>>> actual width. I have no TCO on the Roadini. The TCO exists on my custom 
>>> touring bike, which has a geometry copied from the 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 
>>> with a longer chainstay and lower BB.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:55 AM Ian A  wrote:
>>>
 Piaw,

 Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide 
 tires and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with and 
 without fenders are? 

 Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip overlap 
 (TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on that. Do you experience 
 TCO on the Roadini?  I wasn't quite sure if you were referencing the 
 Roadini or an idea for a custom in this snippet of the review "  It 
 gets rid of the toe clip overlap (which doesn't bother me but now that I 
 know how to solve it without making a bike handle badly".

 IanA Alberta Canada
 On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've now ridden my Roadini for 1000 miles, and I wrote my review: 
> https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html
>
> I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say that gravel bikes are 
> simply 1990s style mountain bikes with 700c wheels and 1x drivetrains.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

2023-05-19 Thread 藍俊彪 
Here are some pictures of my Roadini:
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/XO7eDWt_RaCyVFynaZsftA.vhwY43mas9VqIf5gM0Swqo

The bike as pictured weighs 24 pounds. It was 21 pounds with no toolbag and
lighter wheels and 30mm tires. It's possible to get lighter steel (or
titanium) bikes, but then the costs go up dramatically as you're likely to
have to go custom with correspondingly high wait times.

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:26 PM John Bokman  wrote:

> Thanks for the review! As a daily drop-bar Sam rider, I'm well accustomed
> to the Rivendell ride. It's been a great bike for my uses: commuting, heavy
> loading. But, as a light (155# @ 6 foot tall), spinner,  I wish for a bike
> that is lighter, less stiff, and more flexible to ride when I want to
> charge hills and generally explore at speed on day rides. I am interested
> in this frame for these reasons. But I hesitate because I'm not sure of the
> tubing specs. I don't want it to be too much bike for me! Sam is less than
> ideal on the rides I imagine doing on the Roadini.
>
> I'd love to see some photos of your machine if you have any available.
>
> John
> Portland, OR
>
> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Max tire width according to Rivendell is 42mm. I don't like to push it
>> that close, so I think in practice I won't run anything more than 38mm
>> actual width. I have no TCO on the Roadini. The TCO exists on my custom
>> touring bike, which has a geometry copied from the 1993 Bridgestone RB-1
>> with a longer chainstay and lower BB.
>>
>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:55 AM Ian A  wrote:
>>
>>> Piaw,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide tires
>>> and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with and
>>> without fenders are?
>>>
>>> Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip overlap
>>> (TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on that. Do you experience
>>> TCO on the Roadini?  I wasn't quite sure if you were referencing the
>>> Roadini or an idea for a custom in this snippet of the review "  It
>>> gets rid of the toe clip overlap (which doesn't bother me but now that I
>>> know how to solve it without making a bike handle badly".
>>>
>>> IanA Alberta Canada
>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I've now ridden my Roadini for 1000 miles, and I wrote my review:
 https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html

 I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say that gravel bikes are
 simply 1990s style mountain bikes with 700c wheels and 1x drivetrains.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

2023-05-19 Thread John Bokman 
Thanks for the review! As a daily drop-bar Sam rider, I'm well accustomed 
to the Rivendell ride. It's been a great bike for my uses: commuting, heavy 
loading. But, as a light (155# @ 6 foot tall), spinner,  I wish for a bike 
that is lighter, less stiff, and more flexible to ride when I want to 
charge hills and generally explore at speed on day rides. I am interested 
in this frame for these reasons. But I hesitate because I'm not sure of the 
tubing specs. I don't want it to be too much bike for me! Sam is less than 
ideal on the rides I imagine doing on the Roadini.

I'd love to see some photos of your machine if you have any available.

John
Portland, OR

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Max tire width according to Rivendell is 42mm. I don't like to push it 
> that close, so I think in practice I won't run anything more than 38mm 
> actual width. I have no TCO on the Roadini. The TCO exists on my custom 
> touring bike, which has a geometry copied from the 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 
> with a longer chainstay and lower BB.
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:55 AM Ian A  wrote:
>
>> Piaw,
>>
>> Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide tires 
>> and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with and 
>> without fenders are? 
>>
>> Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip overlap 
>> (TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on that. Do you experience 
>> TCO on the Roadini?  I wasn't quite sure if you were referencing the 
>> Roadini or an idea for a custom in this snippet of the review "  It gets 
>> rid of the toe clip overlap (which doesn't bother me but now that I know 
>> how to solve it without making a bike handle badly".
>>
>> IanA Alberta Canada
>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I've now ridden my Roadini for 1000 miles, and I wrote my review: 
>>> https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html
>>>
>>> I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say that gravel bikes are simply 
>>> 1990s style mountain bikes with 700c wheels and 1x drivetrains.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

2023-05-17 Thread 藍俊彪 
Max tire width according to Rivendell is 42mm. I don't like to push it that
close, so I think in practice I won't run anything more than 38mm actual
width. I have no TCO on the Roadini. The TCO exists on my custom touring
bike, which has a geometry copied from the 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 with a
longer chainstay and lower BB.

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:55 AM Ian A  wrote:

> Piaw,
>
> Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide tires
> and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with and
> without fenders are?
>
> Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip overlap
> (TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on that. Do you experience
> TCO on the Roadini?  I wasn't quite sure if you were referencing the
> Roadini or an idea for a custom in this snippet of the review "  It gets
> rid of the toe clip overlap (which doesn't bother me but now that I know
> how to solve it without making a bike handle badly".
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've now ridden my Roadini for 1000 miles, and I wrote my review:
>> https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html
>>
>> I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say that gravel bikes are simply
>> 1990s style mountain bikes with 700c wheels and 1x drivetrains.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

2023-05-17 Thread Ian A 
Piaw,

Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide tires 
and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with and 
without fenders are? 

Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip overlap 
(TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on that. Do you experience 
TCO on the Roadini?  I wasn't quite sure if you were referencing the 
Roadini or an idea for a custom in this snippet of the review "  It gets 
rid of the toe clip overlap (which doesn't bother me but now that I know 
how to solve it without making a bike handle badly".

IanA Alberta Canada
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've now ridden my Roadini for 1000 miles, and I wrote my review: 
> https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html
>
> I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say that gravel bikes are simply 
> 1990s style mountain bikes with 700c wheels and 1x drivetrains.
>

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