subject:"\[RBW\] Re\: Roaduno \- Are for you buying one\?"

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-29 Thread Richard Rose

Oh this is going to be good!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 11:01 AM, P W wrote:Oh, it definitely is!And was one of my very first (and easy) decisions when I began planning and collecting for my build.Admittedly, they work best when direct mounted, but I’ve never felt they lacked for braking power running as center mounts instead. Especially not on road.They’re also one of the suggestions Riv makes for brake options on the Uno frame set page.I do understand how they might be a financial concern for people tho - they’re not exactly cheap!Although they do tend to come up on the secondhand market often.P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:56 AM, dane...@gmail.com wrote:Hmm... I live somewhere hilly (Vermont) and ride my roadini on everything granted the pads on the 559s on the roadini are high in the slot nd i swapped out for Kool Stops. Not arguing that they are the most powerful brakes ever but they seem to do the job.-DanOn Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:51:24 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:A Paul Racer (or other centerpull) could be used on a RoadUno (or Homer, Roadini, etc.), you'd just need to add cable hangers at the headset/stem and seat binder bolt.My primary road bike is a Malocchio with 559s and fenders. I also have a Pescadero with maxed out GC610 centerpulls. I've had these bikes setup with the same fenders, wheels, and tires (moved most of the parts from the Pescadero to the Malocchio frame when I got it). Breaking performance between the two setups seems about the same to me and has been perfectly adequate even when caught in a downpour on the 559s, but (1) I'm fairly light and live in an area with rolling hills and (2) the 559s are not maxed out on the front of the Malocchio.Riv says the RoadUno takes 46mm without a fender and 43mm with - maybe they haven't actually set one up with 43s and 559s but that doesn't sound problematic to me and my experience with 559s and fenders hasn't been problematic.I like the RoadUno and am looking forward to seeing the builds, but am not planning on getting one. My RoadUno proxy is a Handsome Devil with 38s, fenders, and cantilevers, built up this spring and soon to be converted to 3x1. It also brakes fine.-DaveOn Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-4 Richard Rose wrote:Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner wrote:I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the following:(i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the way down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure I'd be happy if I lived where it's hilly.(ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much lower than the brake bridge/fork crown. Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures show that clearly.(iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall I prefer cantilever, for the versatility. On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter weight option makes sense. I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as canti’s would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender clearance, I was still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for my size frame as that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes kill it for me. On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single speed Hunqapillar. It's natural for those people to be sad that Rivendell offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased. Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-29 Thread tio ryan

I woke up this morning thinking about gear ratios -- crunching numbers on
BikeCalc and referencing the previous single-speeds I've enjoyed throughout
the years. Things of note about the 'uno:

- An in-the-box COMPLETE comes with a 38t big ring and a 26t small ring
and a 16t cog on a flip-flop hub

The stock gear ratio on a 43mm tire equates to 62 gear inches, since mine
will have 650b wheels. That's going to be too small, since I'm used to 69
gear inches on my Kuwahara and I pedaled
73 gear inches for many years on my IRO (it's
not very hilly here). I'm also not into the chainguard aesthetic and the
stock rings are not the best-looking on their own. I want my drivetrain to
look clean, that's something I appreciate about a singlespeed bicycle.

Here's where I'm at currently. I'm in possession of a 18t eno fw with wear
(from my iro) and stock is 16t. If the math is correct and I'm seeking a
ratio in the 69-73 zone:

with stock freewheel (16t)
42t = 69
43t = 71
44t = 72

with my freewheel (18t)
47t = 69
48t = 70
49t = 72

Searching eBay, there aren't a lot of options for good looking 110bcd
rings. I currently have my eye on a 42t salsa and a 48t sugino ring. I
don't know much about em, but the willow chainrings look *really* sweet.
What's the story on those? I'd love one for my roaduno, in the off-chance
someone on the list has a 110bcd willow chainring in 42/43t or 47/48t in
their parts bin.

As I'm writing this, I'm realizing the stock chain will likely be too short
once I get a bigger ring :\

-tio "one is all you need" ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread Adam in Indiana

I’ve been riding 559’s for years on a roady single speed, and have never 
had problems or complaints with them. Anecdotal, I know, but just thought 
I’d throw in a few words in their favor. I would have been happy with 
cantis on the Roaduno as well, but not if it meant an Appaloosa or Hunqua 
frame…I wanted the lighter “every-road” frame.

On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 2:52:49 PM UTC-4 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> The brakes on the completes are not exactly Tektro 559. From 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/roaduno-complete :
>
> *Brakes:* Sidepulls, long reach. Brand is Yokuzuna. They're cold-forged 
> and excellent, and are nearly identical to Tektro 559 (57-73mm brake reach)
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-5 mwill...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tektro 559”s clear SKS 50mm fenders just fine.
>> [image: image0.png]
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2024, at 11:42 AM, J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>> Did RBW say if they were upgrading the stock pads on those Yokozuna 
>> brakes?
>>
>> The 559's with decent pads have worked totally fine for me.
>>
>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 11:01:28 AM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Oh, it definitely is!
>>>
>>> And was one of my very first (and easy) decisions when I began planning 
>>> and collecting for my build.
>>>
>>> Admittedly, they work best when direct mounted, but I’ve never felt they 
>>> lacked for braking power running as center mounts instead. Especially not 
>>> on road.
>>>
>>> They’re also one of the suggestions Riv makes for brake options on the 
>>> Uno frame set page.
>>>
>>> I do understand how they might be a financial concern for people tho - 
>>> they’re not exactly cheap!
>>>
>>> Although they do tend to come up on the secondhand market often.
>>>
>>> P. W.
>>> ~
>>> (917) 514-2207
>>> ~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:56 AM, dane...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm... I live somewhere hilly (Vermont) and ride my roadini on 
>>> everything granted the pads on the 559s on the roadini are high in the slot 
>>> nd i swapped out for Kool Stops.  Not arguing that they are the most 
>>> powerful brakes ever but they seem to do the job.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:51:24 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>>
 A Paul Racer (or other centerpull) could be used on a RoadUno (or 
 Homer, Roadini, etc.), you'd just need to add cable hangers at the 
 headset/stem and seat binder bolt.

 My primary road bike is a Malocchio with 559s and fenders. I also have 
 a Pescadero with maxed out GC610 centerpulls. I've had these bikes setup 
 with the same fenders, wheels, and tires (moved most of the parts from the 
 Pescadero to the Malocchio frame when I got it). Breaking performance 
 between the two setups seems about the same to me and has been perfectly 
 adequate even when caught in a downpour on the 559s, but (1) I'm fairly 
 light and live in an area with rolling hills and (2) the 559s are not 
 maxed 
 out on the front of the Malocchio.

 Riv says the RoadUno takes 46mm without a fender and 43mm with - maybe 
 they haven't actually set one up with 43s and 559s but that doesn't sound 
 problematic to me and my experience with 559s and fenders hasn't been 
 problematic.

 I like the RoadUno and am looking forward to seeing the builds, but am 
 not planning on getting one. My RoadUno proxy is a Handsome Devil with 
 38s, 
 fenders, and cantilevers, built up this spring and soon to be converted to 
 3x1. It also brakes fine.

 -Dave

 On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-4 Richard Rose wrote:

> Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner  
> wrote:
>
> I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the 
> following:
>
>
>
> (i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the 
> way down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not 
> sure 
> I'd be happy if I lived where it's hilly.
>
> (ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much 
> lower than the brake bridge/fork crown. 
> Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures 
> show that clearly.
>
> (iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. 
> Overall I prefer cantilever, for the versatility. 
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter 
>> weight option makes sense.  I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne 
>> as 
>> canti’s would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender 
>> clearance, I was still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size 
>> for 
>> my size frame

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread Mike Packard

The brakes on the completes are not exactly Tektro 559. From 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/roaduno-complete :

*Brakes:* Sidepulls, long reach. Brand is Yokuzuna. They're cold-forged and 
excellent, and are nearly identical to Tektro 559 (57-73mm brake reach)

Mike


On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-5 mwill...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tektro 559”s clear SKS 50mm fenders just fine.
> [image: image0.png]
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 28, 2024, at 11:42 AM, J Schwartz  wrote:
>
> Did RBW say if they were upgrading the stock pads on those Yokozuna 
> brakes?
>
> The 559's with decent pads have worked totally fine for me.
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 11:01:28 AM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Oh, it definitely is!
>>
>> And was one of my very first (and easy) decisions when I began planning 
>> and collecting for my build.
>>
>> Admittedly, they work best when direct mounted, but I’ve never felt they 
>> lacked for braking power running as center mounts instead. Especially not 
>> on road.
>>
>> They’re also one of the suggestions Riv makes for brake options on the 
>> Uno frame set page.
>>
>> I do understand how they might be a financial concern for people tho - 
>> they’re not exactly cheap!
>>
>> Although they do tend to come up on the secondhand market often.
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:56 AM, dane...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>
>> Hmm... I live somewhere hilly (Vermont) and ride my roadini on 
>> everything granted the pads on the 559s on the roadini are high in the slot 
>> nd i swapped out for Kool Stops.  Not arguing that they are the most 
>> powerful brakes ever but they seem to do the job.
>>
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:51:24 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> A Paul Racer (or other centerpull) could be used on a RoadUno (or Homer, 
>>> Roadini, etc.), you'd just need to add cable hangers at the headset/stem 
>>> and seat binder bolt.
>>>
>>> My primary road bike is a Malocchio with 559s and fenders. I also have a 
>>> Pescadero with maxed out GC610 centerpulls. I've had these bikes setup with 
>>> the same fenders, wheels, and tires (moved most of the parts from the 
>>> Pescadero to the Malocchio frame when I got it). Breaking performance 
>>> between the two setups seems about the same to me and has been perfectly 
>>> adequate even when caught in a downpour on the 559s, but (1) I'm fairly 
>>> light and live in an area with rolling hills and (2) the 559s are not maxed 
>>> out on the front of the Malocchio.
>>>
>>> Riv says the RoadUno takes 46mm without a fender and 43mm with - maybe 
>>> they haven't actually set one up with 43s and 559s but that doesn't sound 
>>> problematic to me and my experience with 559s and fenders hasn't been 
>>> problematic.
>>>
>>> I like the RoadUno and am looking forward to seeing the builds, but am 
>>> not planning on getting one. My RoadUno proxy is a Handsome Devil with 38s, 
>>> fenders, and cantilevers, built up this spring and soon to be converted to 
>>> 3x1. It also brakes fine.
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-4 Richard Rose wrote:
>>>
 Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner  
 wrote:

 I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the 
 following:



 (i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the 
 way down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure 
 I'd be happy if I lived where it's hilly.

 (ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much 
 lower than the brake bridge/fork crown. 
 Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures 
 show that clearly.

 (iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall 
 I prefer cantilever, for the versatility. 

 On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:

> For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter 
> weight option makes sense.  I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne 
> as 
> canti’s would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender 
> clearance, I was still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size 
> for 
> my size frame as that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes 
> kill it for me. 
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single 
>> speed Hunqapillar.  It's natural for those people to be sad that 
>> Rivendell 
>> offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a 
>> single 
>> speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thur

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread J Schwartz

Did RBW say if they were upgrading the stock pads on those Yokozuna brakes?
The 559's with decent pads have worked totally fine for me.

On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 11:01:28 AM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Oh, it definitely is!
>
> And was one of my very first (and easy) decisions when I began planning 
> and collecting for my build.
>
> Admittedly, they work best when direct mounted, but I’ve never felt they 
> lacked for braking power running as center mounts instead. Especially not 
> on road.
>
> They’re also one of the suggestions Riv makes for brake options on the Uno 
> frame set page.
>
> I do understand how they might be a financial concern for people tho - 
> they’re not exactly cheap!
>
> Although they do tend to come up on the secondhand market often.
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:56 AM, dane...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> Hmm... I live somewhere hilly (Vermont) and ride my roadini on everything 
> granted the pads on the 559s on the roadini are high in the slot nd i 
> swapped out for Kool Stops.  Not arguing that they are the most powerful 
> brakes ever but they seem to do the job.
>
>
> -Dan
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:51:24 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>
>> A Paul Racer (or other centerpull) could be used on a RoadUno (or Homer, 
>> Roadini, etc.), you'd just need to add cable hangers at the headset/stem 
>> and seat binder bolt.
>>
>> My primary road bike is a Malocchio with 559s and fenders. I also have a 
>> Pescadero with maxed out GC610 centerpulls. I've had these bikes setup with 
>> the same fenders, wheels, and tires (moved most of the parts from the 
>> Pescadero to the Malocchio frame when I got it). Breaking performance 
>> between the two setups seems about the same to me and has been perfectly 
>> adequate even when caught in a downpour on the 559s, but (1) I'm fairly 
>> light and live in an area with rolling hills and (2) the 559s are not maxed 
>> out on the front of the Malocchio.
>>
>> Riv says the RoadUno takes 46mm without a fender and 43mm with - maybe 
>> they haven't actually set one up with 43s and 559s but that doesn't sound 
>> problematic to me and my experience with 559s and fenders hasn't been 
>> problematic.
>>
>> I like the RoadUno and am looking forward to seeing the builds, but am 
>> not planning on getting one. My RoadUno proxy is a Handsome Devil with 38s, 
>> fenders, and cantilevers, built up this spring and soon to be converted to 
>> 3x1. It also brakes fine.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-4 Richard Rose wrote:
>>
>>> Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the 
>>> following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the 
>>> way down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure 
>>> I'd be happy if I lived where it's hilly.
>>>
>>> (ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much 
>>> lower than the brake bridge/fork crown. 
>>> Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures 
>>> show that clearly.
>>>
>>> (iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall 
>>> I prefer cantilever, for the versatility. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter 
 weight option makes sense.  I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as 
 canti’s would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender 
 clearance, I was still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for 
 my size frame as that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes 
 kill it for me. 

 On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single 
> speed Hunqapillar.  It's natural for those people to be sad that 
> Rivendell 
> offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single 
> speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to 
>> sidepulls.
>>
>> I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is 
>> annoying.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread P W

Oh, it definitely is!And was one of my very first (and easy) decisions when I began planning and collecting for my build.Admittedly, they work best when direct mounted, but I’ve never felt they lacked for braking power running as center mounts instead. Especially not on road.They’re also one of the suggestions Riv makes for brake options on the Uno frame set page.I do understand how they might be a financial concern for people tho - they’re not exactly cheap!Although they do tend to come up on the secondhand market often.P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:56 AM, dane...@gmail.com wrote:Hmm... I live somewhere hilly (Vermont) and ride my roadini on everything granted the pads on the 559s on the roadini are high in the slot nd i swapped out for Kool Stops. Not arguing that they are the most powerful brakes ever but they seem to do the job.-DanOn Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:51:24 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:A Paul Racer (or other centerpull) could be used on a RoadUno (or Homer, Roadini, etc.), you'd just need to add cable hangers at the headset/stem and seat binder bolt.My primary road bike is a Malocchio with 559s and fenders. I also have a Pescadero with maxed out GC610 centerpulls. I've had these bikes setup with the same fenders, wheels, and tires (moved most of the parts from the Pescadero to the Malocchio frame when I got it). Breaking performance between the two setups seems about the same to me and has been perfectly adequate even when caught in a downpour on the 559s, but (1) I'm fairly light and live in an area with rolling hills and (2) the 559s are not maxed out on the front of the Malocchio.Riv says the RoadUno takes 46mm without a fender and 43mm with - maybe they haven't actually set one up with 43s and 559s but that doesn't sound problematic to me and my experience with 559s and fenders hasn't been problematic.I like the RoadUno and am looking forward to seeing the builds, but am not planning on getting one. My RoadUno proxy is a Handsome Devil with 38s, fenders, and cantilevers, built up this spring and soon to be converted to 3x1. It also brakes fine.-DaveOn Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-4 Richard Rose wrote:Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner wrote:I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the following:(i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the way down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure I'd be happy if I lived where it's hilly.(ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much lower than the brake bridge/fork crown. Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures show that clearly.(iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall I prefer cantilever, for the versatility. On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter weight option makes sense. I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as canti’s would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender clearance, I was still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for my size frame as that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes kill it for me. On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single speed Hunqapillar. It's natural for those people to be sad that Rivendell offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased. Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread dane...@gmail.com

Hmm... I live somewhere hilly (Vermont) and ride my roadini on everything 
granted the pads on the 559s on the roadini are high in the slot nd i 
swapped out for Kool Stops.  Not arguing that they are the most powerful 
brakes ever but they seem to do the job.

-Dan

On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:51:24 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> A Paul Racer (or other centerpull) could be used on a RoadUno (or Homer, 
> Roadini, etc.), you'd just need to add cable hangers at the headset/stem 
> and seat binder bolt.
>
> My primary road bike is a Malocchio with 559s and fenders. I also have a 
> Pescadero with maxed out GC610 centerpulls. I've had these bikes setup with 
> the same fenders, wheels, and tires (moved most of the parts from the 
> Pescadero to the Malocchio frame when I got it). Breaking performance 
> between the two setups seems about the same to me and has been perfectly 
> adequate even when caught in a downpour on the 559s, but (1) I'm fairly 
> light and live in an area with rolling hills and (2) the 559s are not maxed 
> out on the front of the Malocchio.
>
> Riv says the RoadUno takes 46mm without a fender and 43mm with - maybe 
> they haven't actually set one up with 43s and 559s but that doesn't sound 
> problematic to me and my experience with 559s and fenders hasn't been 
> problematic.
>
> I like the RoadUno and am looking forward to seeing the builds, but am not 
> planning on getting one. My RoadUno proxy is a Handsome Devil with 38s, 
> fenders, and cantilevers, built up this spring and soon to be converted to 
> 3x1. It also brakes fine.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-4 Richard Rose wrote:
>
>> Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the 
>> following:
>>
>>
>>
>> (i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the 
>> way down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure 
>> I'd be happy if I lived where it's hilly.
>>
>> (ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much 
>> lower than the brake bridge/fork crown. 
>> Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures show 
>> that clearly.
>>
>> (iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall I 
>> prefer cantilever, for the versatility. 
>>
>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter 
>>> weight option makes sense.  I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as 
>>> canti’s would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender 
>>> clearance, I was still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for 
>>> my size frame as that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes 
>>> kill it for me. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single 
 speed Hunqapillar.  It's natural for those people to be sad that Rivendell 
 offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single 
 speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA



 On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

> Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.
>
> I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread DavidP

A Paul Racer (or other centerpull) could be used on a RoadUno (or Homer, 
Roadini, etc.), you'd just need to add cable hangers at the headset/stem 
and seat binder bolt.

My primary road bike is a Malocchio with 559s and fenders. I also have a 
Pescadero with maxed out GC610 centerpulls. I've had these bikes setup with 
the same fenders, wheels, and tires (moved most of the parts from the 
Pescadero to the Malocchio frame when I got it). Breaking performance 
between the two setups seems about the same to me and has been perfectly 
adequate even when caught in a downpour on the 559s, but (1) I'm fairly 
light and live in an area with rolling hills and (2) the 559s are not maxed 
out on the front of the Malocchio.

Riv says the RoadUno takes 46mm without a fender and 43mm with - maybe they 
haven't actually set one up with 43s and 559s but that doesn't sound 
problematic to me and my experience with 559s and fenders hasn't been 
problematic.

I like the RoadUno and am looking forward to seeing the builds, but am not 
planning on getting one. My RoadUno proxy is a Handsome Devil with 38s, 
fenders, and cantilevers, built up this spring and soon to be converted to 
3x1. It also brakes fine.

-Dave

On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-4 Richard Rose wrote:

> Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner  
> wrote:
>
> I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the 
> following:
>
>
>
> (i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the way 
> down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure I'd 
> be happy if I lived where it's hilly.
>
> (ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much lower 
> than the brake bridge/fork crown. 
> Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures show 
> that clearly.
>
> (iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall I 
> prefer cantilever, for the versatility. 
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter weight 
>> option makes sense.  I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as canti’s 
>> would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender clearance, I was 
>> still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for my size frame as 
>> that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes kill it for me. 
>>
>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single 
>>> speed Hunqapillar.  It's natural for those people to be sad that Rivendell 
>>> offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single 
>>> speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.

 I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread Richard Rose

Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner wrote:I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the following:(i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the way down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure I'd be happy if I lived where it's hilly.(ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much lower than the brake bridge/fork crown. Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures show that clearly.(iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall I prefer cantilever, for the versatility. On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter weight option makes sense. I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as canti’s would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender clearance, I was still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for my size frame as that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes kill it for me. On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single speed Hunqapillar. It's natural for those people to be sad that Rivendell offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased. Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread Mathias Steiner

I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the 
following:

(i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the way 
down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure I'd 
be happy if I lived where it's hilly.

(ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much lower 
than the brake bridge/fork crown. 
Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures show 
that clearly.

(iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall I 
prefer cantilever, for the versatility. 

On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:

> For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter weight 
> option makes sense.  I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as canti’s 
> would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender clearance, I was 
> still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for my size frame as 
> that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes kill it for me. 
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single 
>> speed Hunqapillar.  It's natural for those people to be sad that Rivendell 
>> offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single 
>> speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.
>>>
>>> I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

2024-06-28 Thread T s

For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter weight 
option makes sense.  I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as canti’s 
would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender clearance, I was 
still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for my size frame as 
that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes kill it for me. 

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single 
> speed Hunqapillar.  It's natural for those people to be sad that Rivendell 
> offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single 
> speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.
>>
>> I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.
>>
>

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