Re: [RBW] Re: Sam on tour

2015-07-19 Thread Jeff Lesperance
Yes, Tubus Cargo rear rack attaches via standard dropout eyelets and
seatstay eyelets.



On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 12:14 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jeff.  I love that Sam color.  Irish green is what I call it..
>
> What about the rear?  Did it attach straight up ?
>
>
> On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 10:09:50 AM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:
>>
>> Tubus Cargo in the rear, and Tara up front. I had experimented with a
>> couple different Old Man Mountain racks up front, but they sat the weight
>> higher than I prefer. To attach the Tara, I bought Tubus fork leg mounts
>> meant for attaching the Tara to forks without proper lowrider bosses -
>> these were rock solid.
>>
>> Sam took a bit of getting used to with ~48 lbs split 60/40 rear/front, so
>> it's worth a test ride or two before heading out on a longer tour. Adding
>> up to 6 liters of water on the back in an MSR bladder added significant
>> weight, but didn't further change handling characteristics, except for
>> slowing me down a bitter going uphill.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, July 18, 2015, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is good news because I have a Sam and have been told it's not up to
>>> the task of fully loaded touring.  And it probably isn't capable of
>>> carrying 100 lbs but I wouldn't want to carry much more than 50lbs anyway.
>>> Would you mind sharing which Tubus racks you have and how they are attached
>>> because another thing I've heard is that Tubus is not compatible with Sam.
>>> Did you use P clamps?
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 4:13:34 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:

 I've just returned from a fully loaded partial tour across Pennsylvania
 on my Sam Hillborne, and I'm happy to report that outside of a mechanical
 issue that was not Sam's fault that caused me to return home with a
 different, scavenged rear derailleur than I started with, and multi-patched
 tubes, he behaved wonderfully.

 Sam carried a camping load of ~47 pounds plus up to 6 liters of water
 at times, along with my non-svelt self over rural roads, graveled mountain
 roads, roads that were vertical and muddy and rocky enough to be referred
 to as mountain goat paths instead of roads (okay, I pushed Sam up that one)
 as well as highway shoulders and through state parks.

 Our tour did not go as planned, but things often don't, and we
 eventually, sooner than later, strayed from our pre-planned route and ended
 a day earlier than expected, but these are unimportant details. Life on a
 bike is great and Sam is a more than worthy steed.

 Upon returning I stripped Sam of his Tubus racks, installed a new rear
 derailleur and took him for a quick spin and he feels awful. He wants his
 camping load back, and he wants to go for a long ride, and wake up
 somewhere different tomorrow.



 -Jeff
 Silver Spring, MD

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[RBW] Re: Sam on tour

2015-07-18 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks Jeff.  I love that Sam color.  Irish green is what I call it..

What about the rear?  Did it attach straight up ?

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 10:09:50 AM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:
>
> Tubus Cargo in the rear, and Tara up front. I had experimented with a 
> couple different Old Man Mountain racks up front, but they sat the weight 
> higher than I prefer. To attach the Tara, I bought Tubus fork leg mounts 
> meant for attaching the Tara to forks without proper lowrider bosses - 
> these were rock solid. 
>
> Sam took a bit of getting used to with ~48 lbs split 60/40 rear/front, so 
> it's worth a test ride or two before heading out on a longer tour. Adding 
> up to 6 liters of water on the back in an MSR bladder added significant 
> weight, but didn't further change handling characteristics, except for 
> slowing me down a bitter going uphill.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 18, 2015, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> This is good news because I have a Sam and have been told it's not up to 
>> the task of fully loaded touring.  And it probably isn't capable of 
>> carrying 100 lbs but I wouldn't want to carry much more than 50lbs anyway.  
>> Would you mind sharing which Tubus racks you have and how they are attached 
>> because another thing I've heard is that Tubus is not compatible with Sam.  
>> Did you use P clamps?
>>
>> Thanks for sharing,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 4:13:34 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>> I've just returned from a fully loaded partial tour across Pennsylvania 
>>> on my Sam Hillborne, and I'm happy to report that outside of a mechanical 
>>> issue that was not Sam's fault that caused me to return home with a 
>>> different, scavenged rear derailleur than I started with, and multi-patched 
>>> tubes, he behaved wonderfully. 
>>>
>>> Sam carried a camping load of ~47 pounds plus up to 6 liters of water at 
>>> times, along with my non-svelt self over rural roads, graveled mountain 
>>> roads, roads that were vertical and muddy and rocky enough to be referred 
>>> to as mountain goat paths instead of roads (okay, I pushed Sam up that one) 
>>> as well as highway shoulders and through state parks. 
>>>
>>> Our tour did not go as planned, but things often don't, and we 
>>> eventually, sooner than later, strayed from our pre-planned route and ended 
>>> a day earlier than expected, but these are unimportant details. Life on a 
>>> bike is great and Sam is a more than worthy steed. 
>>>
>>> Upon returning I stripped Sam of his Tubus racks, installed a new rear 
>>> derailleur and took him for a quick spin and he feels awful. He wants his 
>>> camping load back, and he wants to go for a long ride, and wake up 
>>> somewhere different tomorrow. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Jeff
>>> Silver Spring, MD
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam on tour

2015-07-18 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
This is good news because I have a Sam and have been told it's not up to 
the task of fully loaded touring.  And it probably isn't capable of 
carrying 100 lbs but I wouldn't want to carry much more than 50lbs anyway.  
Would you mind sharing which Tubus racks you have and how they are attached 
because another thing I've heard is that Tubus is not compatible with Sam.  
Did you use P clamps?

Thanks for sharing,

Matt

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 4:13:34 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:
>
> I've just returned from a fully loaded partial tour across Pennsylvania on 
> my Sam Hillborne, and I'm happy to report that outside of a mechanical 
> issue that was not Sam's fault that caused me to return home with a 
> different, scavenged rear derailleur than I started with, and multi-patched 
> tubes, he behaved wonderfully. 
>
> Sam carried a camping load of ~47 pounds plus up to 6 liters of water at 
> times, along with my non-svelt self over rural roads, graveled mountain 
> roads, roads that were vertical and muddy and rocky enough to be referred 
> to as mountain goat paths instead of roads (okay, I pushed Sam up that one) 
> as well as highway shoulders and through state parks. 
>
> Our tour did not go as planned, but things often don't, and we eventually, 
> sooner than later, strayed from our pre-planned route and ended a day 
> earlier than expected, but these are unimportant details. Life on a bike is 
> great and Sam is a more than worthy steed. 
>
> Upon returning I stripped Sam of his Tubus racks, installed a new rear 
> derailleur and took him for a quick spin and he feels awful. He wants his 
> camping load back, and he wants to go for a long ride, and wake up 
> somewhere different tomorrow. 
>
>
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam on tour

2015-07-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Awesome! I find the only purpose of the plan is to make me stupid enough to 
get out there. Grin. No plan survives contact with the (enemy, world, 
reality ... ). 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 5:13:34 PM UTC-6, Jeff wrote:

Our tour did not go as planned, but things often don't
>

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