[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Big Ben opinions

2014-07-14 Thread Rod Holland
Last year, while building up a Surly Trucker DeLuxe, I ordered a pair of 
2.15 Big Bens and a pair of Compass 1.75. I put the Compass on the Surly, 
thinking I'd try switching the Big Bens in later, but absolutely fell in 
love with them--fast, agile, comfy, good on-road and off--and never swapped 
them. However, I couldn't stand to see the Big Bens go to waste, so I put 
them on my elderly GT Karakoram, circa 1987, a veteran rigid frame mountain 
bike that in recent years has been my winter icebiking ride, wearing 
studded Nokians; the big Schwalbe balloons give it something to do in the 
summer. The Big Bens are, indeed, delightful, good on the road and roll 
over the damnedest things on and off. They're heavier, and not quite as 
quick as the Compasses, but once they're rolling, angular momentum is your 
friend. Bottom line: you can't go wrong for mixed-terrain riding with 
either tire; each tire has lots of air volume (the Schwalbe has more), a 
moderate tread, and supple sidewalls (the Compass is somewhat more supple); 
if your balance is tilted a little more to off-road, you might want to go 
with the Big Bens, although the Compass will do fine there; if you value 
quickness on the road, you might want the Compass, although the Big Bens 
will be perfectly at home. If you're worried about puncture protection, the 
Schwalbes have it, the Compasses don't, but I've never had a flat on either 
(no goatheads in Massachusetts, but we do have beer bottles). In short, 
I've managed to avoid choosing, but in the process have determined that 
there are no wrong choices here, just nuances. One thought: it may be 
attributable to the contrasting nature of the frames I've mounted these two 
different tires on, but I have used the Compass tires for longer rides (by 
a factor of 2x, at least) than I have the Schwalbes; whether the added 
weight of the Schwalbes limits their utility for long rides is something I 
consider to be an open question; I simply don't know. I may have to swap 
the tires between the two bikes to settle the question for myself. Anybody 
do a century on Big Bens? How was it?

Finally: here's a ride report with the Big Ben 2.15 
http://www.bikeforums.net/northeast/518426-metro-boston-good-ride-today-149.html#post16907202,
 
and another ride report with the Compass 1.75 
http://www.bikeforums.net/northeast/518426-metro-boston-good-ride-today-122.html#post16161556
. 

Add me to the list of people who would go for a 2 Compass if it were 
offered.

rod

On Friday, July 11, 2014 6:53:04 PM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote:

 Does anyone have any experience using Schwalbe Big Bens?  I am building up 
 an old Schwinn Paramount PDG 90 Riv style and want to have a wide tire that 
 is a cross between knobby and slick, something I can go offroad with but 
 also ride to that offroad location on the street without being too slow. 
 Has anyone used them in that past? Are there any other great tires I should 
 consider in roughly this width I should consider? How do Big Ben's compare 
 to the ride quality of a Compass tire? The widest mtb tire that Compass 
 offers is 1.75, compared to the 2.15 of the Big Ben. Further, does anyone 
 happen to have a pair of these they want to unload? 


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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Big Ben opinions

2014-07-14 Thread rcnute
Any of you tried the 650B version?

Ryan

On Friday, July 11, 2014 3:53:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote:

 Does anyone have any experience using Schwalbe Big Bens?  I am building up 
 an old Schwinn Paramount PDG 90 Riv style and want to have a wide tire that 
 is a cross between knobby and slick, something I can go offroad with but 
 also ride to that offroad location on the street without being too slow. 
 Has anyone used them in that past? Are there any other great tires I should 
 consider in roughly this width I should consider? How do Big Ben's compare 
 to the ride quality of a Compass tire? The widest mtb tire that Compass 
 offers is 1.75, compared to the 2.15 of the Big Ben. Further, does anyone 
 happen to have a pair of these they want to unload? 


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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Big Ben opinions

2014-07-13 Thread Liesl
I have Big Bens on my Custom and, while I can't compare them to the Compass 
tries as I haven't tried them, I concur with Shoji in all regards about the 
Big Bens.  They handle a wide range of pressures and they are FUN!  Yes, 
roots disappear and I don't fear/need to pay nearly so much attention to 
potholes in the same way.  Plus, they come in a wonderful brown if that's 
your cup o' tea.

I second the request for a slightly wider compass 26 tire.

good luck and keep us posted.

RCW

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Big Ben opinions

2014-07-12 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Michael,
I have Big Bens (measure 52mm) and Compass (measure 44-ish) for my 
Hunqapillar.

The Big Bens are a wonderful tire. Fast on the streets with little noise, 
and great float on the trails. (Going over roots at low pressure-- you 
won't even know they're there!)

After reading all the great things about the Compass-- they're true! The 
Compass 26 are very fast on the roads. I'm probably shifting up 2+ gears 
on the same streets compared to Big Bens (which I don't think are slow). 
It's like riding with a tailwind.

I don't have much trail experience with the Compass. Some short stints 
haven't shown any downside.

Here's the thing: the Compass are a lot narrower than I'd like. I did pinch 
flat it. (I was pushing the bounds, and I'm used to the Big Bens...) If 
only the Compass was offered in 2 version!

If I were doing a road tour on my Hunqapillar, I'd choose the Compass. If I 
were doing a mixed terrain, I'd choose the Big Bens. (The extra width is 
worth it for me.) When I'm pulling my kids, I prefer the Big Bens. 

Good luck!
Shoji


On Friday, July 11, 2014 6:53:04 PM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote:

 Does anyone have any experience using Schwalbe Big Bens?  I am building up 
 an old Schwinn Paramount PDG 90 Riv style and want to have a wide tire that 
 is a cross between knobby and slick, something I can go offroad with but 
 also ride to that offroad location on the street without being too slow. 
 Has anyone used them in that past? Are there any other great tires I should 
 consider in roughly this width I should consider? How do Big Ben's compare 
 to the ride quality of a Compass tire? The widest mtb tire that Compass 
 offers is 1.75, compared to the 2.15 of the Big Ben. Further, does anyone 
 happen to have a pair of these they want to unload? 


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