[RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
Hi Manny, I enjoy your pics and write ups. I think you capture great parts of cycling, the Bay Area, and people. A few points if you start selling photos: - You'll need to get permission from people. For example, the Merry Sales catalog cover shows a person who is recognizable, and I think a Model Release would be required. - You may need permission from parks or private areas. - Certain events may require permission (e.g., races). The above starts to get all legal, but when you move into commercial work the personal-use exemption does not apply. One [simple] thing to protect your photos from appearing in print without your permission is to limit the upload size of the image to Flickr. Presently, your account permits download of large (printable) size images. Best wishes, shoji On Monday, April 1, 2013 5:43:31 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I agree on all counts - it can cost a lot to license a photo. Getty Images charges BANK ($1000+ for a temporary license). Speaking of which, you can flag your Flickr pictures to be eligible for licensing through Getty. Tag the bejeezus out of them. You can also sell your photos through Dreamstime.com, http://www.dreamstime.com/sellimages Istockphoto.com (http://www.istockphoto.com/sell-stock-photos.php) I've bought from them both at different jobs. They're pretty popular with designers, because they're cheap, and I've had better luck with Dreamstime for bigger photos and better variation from the same photographers. That indicates to me that maybe they pay better? As a contributor, tag your photos well, so they can be found. It takes practice: if you were looking for an image that looked exactly like this, what keywords would you use? Even as a web designer, I don't design sites for myself. I would just use WordPress (free), and a cheap photography template. Let the pictures do the talking. You're pretty comfortable on Flickr, so I'd keep that my focus, and join some groups for semi-pro photographers. Use the site to point people toward your Flickr stream, which is already active with people saying how fantastic the images are. Also link very obviously to any stock photo services you work with. Bon courage and good luck! Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, April 1, 2013 1:40:43 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I very much enjoy your photos and think they have plenty of marketable value. Just because you're not a professional does not mean you don't take incredible photos. I agree with the ladyfriend *especially* when it's a business wanting to use your photos. I cannot believe Merry Sales approached you without some offer of remuneration!? And for their cover no less! It's one thing to turn down payment or negotiate other arrangements, but straight up can we have it? that's just rude in my opinion. Reverse the scenario, how would they have responded if you (or anyone else for that matter) contacted them and asked for free bike parts? I'll just hazard a guess they'd tell you to hit the road. You need to be as confident as your photographs sir! They're fantastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
Manny, I can't really offer any advice beyond that which has been offered by others already, but I will take this opportunity to further compliment you on your photography--I always enjoy the photos you post. The Merry Sales cover shot is fantastic and I also like the one along the Nestucca River Road on pg. 6. You have talent, Manny! Cheers! lyle On 2 April 2013 13:00, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Manny, I enjoy your pics and write ups. I think you capture great parts of cycling, the Bay Area, and people. A few points if you start selling photos: - You'll need to get permission from people. For example, the Merry Sales catalog cover shows a person who is recognizable, and I think a Model Release would be required. - You may need permission from parks or private areas. - Certain events may require permission (e.g., races). The above starts to get all legal, but when you move into commercial work the personal-use exemption does not apply. One [simple] thing to protect your photos from appearing in print without your permission is to limit the upload size of the image to Flickr. Presently, your account permits download of large (printable) size images. Best wishes, shoji On Monday, April 1, 2013 5:43:31 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I agree on all counts - it can cost a lot to license a photo. Getty Images charges BANK ($1000+ for a temporary license). Speaking of which, you can flag your Flickr pictures to be eligible for licensing through Getty. Tag the bejeezus out of them. You can also sell your photos through Dreamstime.com, http://www.** dreamstime.com/sellimages http://www.dreamstime.com/sellimages Istockphoto.com (http://www.istockphoto.com/**sell-stock-photos.phphttp://www.istockphoto.com/sell-stock-photos.php ) I've bought from them both at different jobs. They're pretty popular with designers, because they're cheap, and I've had better luck with Dreamstime for bigger photos and better variation from the same photographers. That indicates to me that maybe they pay better? As a contributor, tag your photos well, so they can be found. It takes practice: if you were looking for an image that looked exactly like this, what keywords would you use? Even as a web designer, I don't design sites for myself. I would just use WordPress (free), and a cheap photography template. Let the pictures do the talking. You're pretty comfortable on Flickr, so I'd keep that my focus, and join some groups for semi-pro photographers. Use the site to point people toward your Flickr stream, which is already active with people saying how fantastic the images are. Also link very obviously to any stock photo services you work with. Bon courage and good luck! Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, April 1, 2013 1:40:43 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I very much enjoy your photos and think they have plenty of marketable value. Just because you're not a professional does not mean you don't take incredible photos. I agree with the ladyfriend *especially* when it's a business wanting to use your photos. I cannot believe Merry Sales approached you without some offer of remuneration!? And for their cover no less! It's one thing to turn down payment or negotiate other arrangements, but straight up can we have it? that's just rude in my opinion. Reverse the scenario, how would they have responded if you (or anyone else for that matter) contacted them and asked for free bike parts? I'll just hazard a guess they'd tell you to hit the road. You need to be as confident as your photographs sir! They're fantastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
Manny, I have many artist and photographer friends. It used to be, everybody had a dedicated website but now, many use whatever works (some pay for service, other free): Flickr, sugmug, Facebook, whatever. Another web service that is a bit below the radar but is specifically designed for creative professionals is behance (no affiliation). Online Portfolios on Behance http://www.behance.net/search?field=73 Good luck! Perry PS. If you have a domain name already, redirect it to your new home. If not, consider getting one. Redirects are easy and if you ever move your web home to another service, you won't have to notify anyone, change stationary, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
Great, Manny! You could certainly design your own webpage, but why? Most photographers use a photo web service to store and sell their photos. Zenfolio is the one I'm familiar with. http://www.zenfolio.com With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 1, 2013 2:02:58 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote: So I take pictures. A lot of pictures. I've had the pleasure to take a bunch of great photos of some of the people here on the forum and of various of Rivendell employees. I post a lot of them online for variety of reasons. Mostly because I believe the challenge of photography to capture the essence of an experience with only handful of pictures is extremely fun. A lot of my friends and strangers alike have told me that I should start doing some freelance photography. I wasn't really confident enough to have my photos publish anywhere professionally until Stan Pun from Merry Sales asked via Flickr if they could use one of my photos for their 2013 catalog. I told 'em go ahead as long as they sent me a handful of copies to show to my students. Well the ladyfriend was pretty mad that I didn't sell it for any money and told me that was the last time I give away photos for free. Since this isn't the first time I've given away photos. Apparently Adventure Cycling has my photo on their main page of our own famous Andy and his family that I took on my last tour from Seattle (I didn't even know until Andy told me). So I'm biting the bullet and I'm reaching out to this group of people first because all of you at one point has provided some type of positive feedback in my photography. I was wondering if anyone could help me design my own freelance photography website? I'm as confident in my web designing as I am in my photography. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Pictures in catalog prove that I want to step up my game: http://www.merrysales.com/2013_merrysales_cat_noprices.pdf -Manny Smile for the Camera Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
Manny, your photographs are beautiful. Go for it. I use smugmug and I am quite happy with them. www.smugmug.com It is very easy to set up a site, customize it, and create public and private galleries. I used to have a domain name linked to it, but I scaled back my freelancing to focus on teaching and family. Smugmug charges an annual fee, but the package I have gives me unlimited storage. You can also select a package that allows you to set prices for your prints and smugmug fullfills the orders for you. Here is my site: http://erlhouston.smugmug.com/ It is out of date, but you get the idea. In terms of Adventure Cycling using your image; did they have your permission? At a minimum they should ask permission and identify the image as yours--good advertising for you. Good luck, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
Congratulations Manny! That's an awesome photo on the cover. I didn't see the cover photo credited to you, and I tend to agree with your ladyfriend. Giving things away to a for-profit corporation doesn't make much sense to me either. At a minimum, they should have given you the credit right on the cover or the page behind it. Or did I miss it somewhere? René On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:15 PM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote: Manny, your photographs are beautiful. Go for it. I use smugmug and I am quite happy with them. www.smugmug.com It is very easy to set up a site, customize it, and create public and private galleries. I used to have a domain name linked to it, but I scaled back my freelancing to focus on teaching and family. Smugmug charges an annual fee, but the package I have gives me unlimited storage. You can also select a package that allows you to set prices for your prints and smugmug fullfills the orders for you. Here is my site: http://erlhouston.smugmug.com/ It is out of date, but you get the idea. In terms of Adventure Cycling using your image; did they have your permission? At a minimum they should ask permission and identify the image as yours--good advertising for you. Good luck, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
I very much enjoy your photos and think they have plenty of marketable value. Just because you're not a professional does not mean you don't take incredible photos. I agree with the ladyfriend *especially* when it's a business wanting to use your photos. I cannot believe Merry Sales approached you without some offer of remuneration!? And for their cover no less! It's one thing to turn down payment or negotiate other arrangements, but straight up can we have it? that's just rude in my opinion. Reverse the scenario, how would they have responded if you (or anyone else for that matter) contacted them and asked for free bike parts? I'll just hazard a guess they'd tell you to hit the road. You need to be as confident as your photographs sir! They're fantastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
That is one amazing photo on the cover there. And I am not even into art/photography. That looks like the kind of photo that could be around for years and it would keep popping up in public places and become some kind of representative piece for cycling from our era. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
I agree on all counts - it can cost a lot to license a photo. Getty Images charges BANK ($1000+ for a temporary license). Speaking of which, you can flag your Flickr pictures to be eligible for licensing through Getty. Tag the bejeezus out of them. You can also sell your photos through Dreamstime.com, http://www.dreamstime.com/sellimages Istockphoto.com (http://www.istockphoto.com/sell-stock-photos.php) I've bought from them both at different jobs. They're pretty popular with designers, because they're cheap, and I've had better luck with Dreamstime for bigger photos and better variation from the same photographers. That indicates to me that maybe they pay better? As a contributor, tag your photos well, so they can be found. It takes practice: if you were looking for an image that looked exactly like this, what keywords would you use? Even as a web designer, I don't design sites for myself. I would just use WordPress (free), and a cheap photography template. Let the pictures do the talking. You're pretty comfortable on Flickr, so I'd keep that my focus, and join some groups for semi-pro photographers. Use the site to point people toward your Flickr stream, which is already active with people saying how fantastic the images are. Also link very obviously to any stock photo services you work with. Bon courage and good luck! Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, April 1, 2013 1:40:43 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I very much enjoy your photos and think they have plenty of marketable value. Just because you're not a professional does not mean you don't take incredible photos. I agree with the ladyfriend *especially* when it's a business wanting to use your photos. I cannot believe Merry Sales approached you without some offer of remuneration!? And for their cover no less! It's one thing to turn down payment or negotiate other arrangements, but straight up can we have it? that's just rude in my opinion. Reverse the scenario, how would they have responded if you (or anyone else for that matter) contacted them and asked for free bike parts? I'll just hazard a guess they'd tell you to hit the road. You need to be as confident as your photographs sir! They're fantastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
