[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
ok, so I have DA shifters on my atlantis, and I just wore out the right shifter for the third time in 6 years. I'd love to convert to Silver bar end shifters. Is it easy to do? -ts On Sep 5, 5:00 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, d2minid2creat...@gmail.com wrote: Ya, i could see how that would be a problem. Could happen with indexed too, if not adjusted properly but far less likely. I think if I was deaf I'd go single speed. Lots less pressure. :D On her bike she has a nexus 8speed internal hub with the grip shifter that shows the number of the gear. She likes that one a lot. It looks like a single speed and she gets a full-coverage chainguard, too and a huge gear range with it. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM, sanjoserthomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote: ok, so I have DA shifters on my atlantis, and I just wore out the right shifter for the third time in 6 years. I'd love to convert to Silver bar end shifters. Is it easy to do? You wore out your DA shifters? What part wears out? -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
It's fairly easy. You don't have to worry about the indexing adjustment. On Sep 8, 8:53 am, sanjoser thomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote: ok, so I have DA shifters on my atlantis, and I just wore out the right shifter for the third time in 6 years. I'd love to convert to Silver bar end shifters. Is it easy to do? -ts On Sep 5, 5:00 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, d2minid2creat...@gmail.com wrote: Ya, i could see how that would be a problem. Could happen with indexed too, if not adjusted properly but far less likely. I think if I was deaf I'd go single speed. Lots less pressure. :D On her bike she has a nexus 8speed internal hub with the grip shifter that shows the number of the gear. She likes that one a lot. It looks like a single speed and she gets a full-coverage chainguard, too and a huge gear range with it. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
I have a 19 year old DA 8 speed brifter with many 10's of thousands of miles on it and it still works perfectly, adjustments are few and far between, and simple. On the other hand I've got several old friction shifters (Campy, Suntour, Shimano) with worn out damper washers that I cannot seem to find replacements for. I've never once had an index shifter fail even with mountain bike abuse. I'm not saying a simpler design shouldn't last longer because of less stuff to fail, but that has been my experience. --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 11:57 AM On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM, sanjoserthomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote: ok, so I have DA shifters on my atlantis, and I just wore out the right shifter for the third time in 6 years. I'd love to convert to Silver bar end shifters. Is it easy to do? You wore out your DA shifters? What part wears out? -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
I just did this recently. I've always wished I had bought the Silver shifters originally, because I found that I really don't care for index shifting and the Dura Ace shifters have a dense, ratchety feel that seems like something is grinding. Because the Silver shifters are $82 for a complete set, I managed to find just the Silver levers on ebay, used but perfect condition, for about $26. If you are keeping the DA pods (like I did) and installing Silver levers on them, then you have to do a little metal work. DA pods have a little nib on the square mounting post. It's an indexing point for Shimano spacers that you don't need with the Silver levers. You can: a.) file it off, or b.) file a small notch in the thick square-holed spacer that comes with the Silver levers. You also have to install those same spacers backwards or grind off the lever stops that are there for downtube mounting. I have plenty of Swiss files and a bench grinder, so I was able to get the thick washers modified in short order. I really wasn't hard to do with the right tools. This endeavor saved me $56 for about a half hour's worth of minor fiddling. Sorry I didn't get pictures of the process; I usually photograph such things, but I was in a hurry to get the job done. The result looks flawless and performs flawlessly. I'd be happy to advise on details if you're thinking about doing it. Dave - Original Message - From: sanjoser To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters ok, so I have DA shifters on my atlantis, and I just wore out the right shifter for the third time in 6 years. I'd love to convert to Silver bar end shifters. Is it easy to do? -ts On Sep 5, 5:00 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, d2minid2creat...@gmail.com wrote: Ya, i could see how that would be a problem. Could happen with indexed too, if not adjusted properly but far less likely. I think if I was deaf I'd go single speed. Lots less pressure. :D On her bike she has a nexus 8speed internal hub with the grip shifter that shows the number of the gear. She likes that one a lot. It looks like a single speed and she gets a full-coverage chainguard, too and a huge gear range with it. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
I recently converted my Dura Ace bars ends with Silver levers using the DA pods. Wow, what a difference! MUCH better. Dave - Original Message - From: Jay LePree To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:09 AM Subject: [RBW] Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters Hi all: I wanted to replace some aging down tube shifters on my Rambouillet and Keven at RBW suggested I try the Silver Bar End Shifters. I installed them in May, and I do not regret making the move. I find them to be much more convenient to use then down tube shifters or Ergo and STI, especially while riding in the drops. I am currently running a Deore rear derailer with a SRAM 8 speed cassette and have no problem with ghost shifting. (I did swap the upper and lower pulleys prior to installing the shifters, and I used bees wax on the tensioning bolt.) Regards, Jay Demarest, NJ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
Silvers blow DA out of the water. Welcome to the club. Friction FTW! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
Silver aka SunTour Sprint shifters are King . . . ease and precision in friction shifting is unmatched . . .Shimano's are like Friar Tucks backyard experiment gone awry. LOL :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
And it's too bad no one bought the tooling for the original Suntour Power Ratchet Thumbshifters . I've used them since 1983. I have 3 pairs, and one new set from a Schwinn dealer close out for about $10. But . . there's not much market these days for such friction shifters . . . they are perfect for Albatross bars and TT bar-end brake levers however. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:28 PM, beth hperiwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sep 5, 3:44 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: And it's too bad no one bought the tooling for the original Suntour Power Ratchet Thumbshifters ... Hear, hear! I have them on my Xtracycle and the stem-mount roadie version on my touring bike. Smooth as silk. What we need is an aggressive campaign to bring back friction shifting for the masses. I've got no problem with friction shifting but yesterday I realized why it would never work for my partner. Since I've been off the bike for a while now she decided she wanted to try riding my atlantis and I decided I wanted to see if she liked it. So she took it out for a little spin and shifted. Now, my partner is completely deaf and while I'm standing there watching her get comfortable I'm hearing 'clank clank clank clank' as the derailler is not quite lined up. Made me say 'hmmm'. Here's a situation where friction just isn't going to work so well. There's a lot of friction shifting which requires some amount of hearing. And as much as someone tells me its about feeling it I think they are full of crap that it isn't about hearing it, too. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
Ya, i could see how that would be a problem. Could happen with indexed too, if not adjusted properly but far less likely. I think if I was deaf I'd go single speed. Lots less pressure. :D On Sep 5, 6:34 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:28 PM, beth hperiwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sep 5, 3:44 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: And it's too bad no one bought the tooling for the original Suntour Power Ratchet Thumbshifters ... Hear, hear! I have them on my Xtracycle and the stem-mount roadie version on my touring bike. Smooth as silk. What we need is an aggressive campaign to bring back friction shifting for the masses. I've got no problem with friction shifting but yesterday I realized why it would never work for my partner. Since I've been off the bike for a while now she decided she wanted to try riding my atlantis and I decided I wanted to see if she liked it. So she took it out for a little spin and shifted. Now, my partner is completely deaf and while I'm standing there watching her get comfortable I'm hearing 'clank clank clank clank' as the derailler is not quite lined up. Made me say 'hmmm'. Here's a situation where friction just isn't going to work so well. There's a lot of friction shifting which requires some amount of hearing. And as much as someone tells me its about feeling it I think they are full of crap that it isn't about hearing it, too. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tried and LOVED - Silver Bar End Shifters
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, d2minid2creat...@gmail.com wrote: Ya, i could see how that would be a problem. Could happen with indexed too, if not adjusted properly but far less likely. I think if I was deaf I'd go single speed. Lots less pressure. :D On her bike she has a nexus 8speed internal hub with the grip shifter that shows the number of the gear. She likes that one a lot. It looks like a single speed and she gets a full-coverage chainguard, too and a huge gear range with it. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
