1. Flat, mostly. Windy. Occasional hill.
2. Clem, Bosco, 100mm stem
2 again. Commuting and other vehicular cycling up to 60 miles a day on 
occasion
3. The angle of my saddle basically forms a continuous line going into the 
bars, so, bars a bit above saddle and ends of bars about even with saddle 
nose. B17, the C17 was too narrow sitting as upright as the Boscos for my 
sit bones. But that's going to be a you thing, some might even want a wider 
seat still. The other metrics are independent of the bars, your saddle 
should be at a height and fore/aft where your hips don't rock and you don't 
have pain on the top or bottom of any knee. I can also usually judge 
fore/aft by whether or not I have to force myself to slide back and not sit 
on the nose when pedaling with some force (as this tends to slide me 
naturally into an optimum leg extension). Adjust tilt until no rubbing in 
the soft bits. All of my bikes are at slightly different adjustments 
because of different saddles, pedals, seat angles, etc. Once you get your 
butt and knees happy, the reach is dialed in with stem. I like a 100mm on 
the Clem's long tube, on a Sam I'd probably start with a 120 for myself and 
see how it goes.
4. Rode all winter in 20mph winds and 40mph gusts, as low as 7 degrees F 
actual and somewhere in the negatives with wind chill. Long undies, wool 
base layer, a Showers Pass Amsterdam jacket, and rain pants over my pants 
pretty well kept the wind out. In the really cold stuff, two layers of long 
johns for the thighs and crotch.

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 11:38:43 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Thinking of trying Boscos on my Sam. I like my drops setups. But thinking 
> an upright setup will be fun for on-road riding, too. I do commuting, 
> errands, centuries, recreational on-road riding.
>
> But it is hilly around here and was wondering what you hilly upright 
> riders do for your upright bike setups that works for you.
>
> I know this is a highly individual thing, but interested to see what works 
> for you.
>
> Please mention:
> 1. Terrain you ride in.
> 2. What model bike and upright handlebar.
> 2. What type of on-road riding you do (commutes, errands, centuries, 
> brevets, touring, recreational road riding).
> 3. Fit:
>          a) Your bar height to saddle height
>          b) seat fore and aft (KOPS?, saddle slammed all the way back on 
> the rails Riv-style, etc.?)
>          c) saddle height ( I guess most of you use the Riv method of 
> PBH-11cm?).
>          d) what kinda saddle and how do you tilt it?
>
> 4. Also, what do you do in winter so you don't get blasted with wintry 
> blasts when riding? My thighs and shoulders get cranky when I ride too long 
> in the cold, and upright just opens them up to more direct wintry wind 
> punishment.
>
>

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