Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[johnboy]

My first beeswax was a puck about the size of what would come out of a Dixie 
cup. My mom got it for me for the odd small boat sewing I was doing. Still have 
most of that bit. More recently somebody tossed a block that’s 6x6x1 that I 
rescued ( read hoarded). Should probably pass that onNobody asked ,but I 
used to use “Score” hair cream. And no...John ,Walnut Creek

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Craig Montgomery]

3 days later: Nah. It's a good story but it's about teeth (and needles and 
lighters and pliers) and not bikes or beeswax. So just let your mind go and 
have fun with it. 

Craig in Tucson

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:11:08 AM UTC-7, Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:
>
> On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 4:02:33 PM UTC-7, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>>
>> Hey, just another Day in the Life of Boy Blunder. If I hadn't  been 
>> chewing on that Jolly Roger while I was riding it wouldn't have happened! 
>> I've got another one about a pair of pliers, a lighter, and a needle but 
>> your wives will wonder why you fainted at the keyboard.
>>
>
> At the risk of fainting at the keyboard, please do tell. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 4:02:33 PM UTC-7, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> Hey, just another Day in the Life of Boy Blunder. If I hadn't  been 
> chewing on that Jolly Roger while I was riding it wouldn't have happened! 
> I've got another one about a pair of pliers, a lighter, and a needle but 
> your wives will wonder why you fainted at the keyboard.
>

At the risk of fainting at the keyboard, please do tell. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Eric Floden]

Well, there is a brand new Red Green podcast! Alas, it is not free...

http://www.redgreen.com/

EricF
Neither handy nor handsome
Vancouver BC

On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 07:10, Jock Dewey  wrote:

> Oh, how we miss Red Green.
>
> We could all use a good Red Green show right now.
>
> Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Jock Dewey]

Oh, how we miss Red Green. 

We could all use a good Red Green show right now.

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 7:33:27 AM UTC-4, Kent Peterson -- Eugene, 
Oregon wrote:
>
> OK, I think Craig just won this thread. His dentist isn't the only one who 
> is impressed.
>
> Red Green would approve. "If the women don't find you handsome, they 
> should at least find you handy."
>
> Kent Peterson
> Eugene, OR USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Dorothy C]

I have recipe for a hand salve / lip balm.  One ounce of grated beeswax, 1 
ounce of jojoba oil and 2 ounces of red palm fruit oil. Warm gently in a double 
boiler until melted and stir together. You can add a few drops of essential oil 
like lavender, or chamomile. Store in a 4 ounce canning jar, or small lotion 
jar. Rub between hands to soften. 
I was able to greatly reduce the inflammation and potential scarring from a 
grease burn on my hand  by using some lavender infused balm for about a week 
after the burn had had time to cool. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Craig Montgomery]

Hey, just another Day in the Life of Boy Blunder. If I hadn't  been chewing
on that Jolly Roger while I was riding it wouldn't have happened! I've got
another one about a pair of pliers, a lighter, and a needle but your wives
will wonder why you fainted at the keyboard.

Craig "Keep'em Comin'" in Tucson

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 9:07 PM Craig Montgomery 
wrote:

> Touring a backroad in Central AZ. 2 day's ride from anywhere. Lost a
> filling. Had a chunk of Grant's Original Beeswax in my kit. Took out my
> trusty Swiss Army knife and heated up a pea-sized piece with the magnifying
> glass. Pushed it into the hole. Stayed there for a week and half till I
> could get to my dentist. He was duly impressed.
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:10:13 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I bought one of the original Dixie Cups of beeswax from Rivendell as long
>> as 20 or 25 years ago, and could never find a real use for it: Loctite is
>> easier and works perfectly for threads, I prefer the way the little
>> squishable aluminum end caps look on cable ends, and Johnson's Paste Wax or
>> the lotion I use on my leather chairs works better for my (Flite) saddles.
>>
>> Long ago I mixed the wax with olive oil thinking that it might make a
>> good leather dressing, tho' an excessively chi chi one (don't use edible
>> products on your bicycle, I say), but it didn't work as well as the above.
>>
>> I later for some reason mixed it with Vaseline, and then it sat for a
>> decade or more.
>>
>> Well! I've found a truly useful use for it! Butch Wax!
>>
>> Ever since I stopped wearing my hair in a pony tail about 5 years ago
>> I've been having it cut to about 1/2" on top and whitewalls on the side, to
>> last 8 weeks with minor trimming. But the top hair won't stay down until
>> it's 1.5" long or so, and sleeping on it makes it look messy. Whence the
>> desire for Butch Wax. No longer made, but a week or so ago I had an
>> epiphany: use the beeswax + Vaseline mix for Butch Wax. It works quite well.
>>
>> (No paraffin devotional candles In the Orthodox church, where paraffin is
>> canonically limited to waxing chains. But the beeswax candle ends provide a
>> never-ending supply of wax for secular purposes.)
>>
>> Thought you'd like to know.
>>
>> What do *you* use beeswax for, besides devotional candles?
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Lyman Labry]

Oh man.  I agree.  Wish I’d had beeswax for a similar experience.

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> Hands down, Craig wins.
> There’s nothing else to see here.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Ray Varella]

Hands down, Craig wins. 
There’s nothing else to see here. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Patrick Moore]

+1

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:33 AM Kent Peterson -- Eugene, Oregon <
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> OK, I think Craig just won this thread. His dentist isn't the only one who
> is impressed.
>
> Red Green would approve. "If the women don't find you handsome, they
> should at least find you handy."
>
> Kent Peterson
> Eugene, OR USA
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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Kent Peterson -- Eugene, Oregon]

OK, I think Craig just won this thread. His dentist isn't the only one who is 
impressed.

Red Green would approve. "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at 
least find you handy."

Kent Peterson
Eugene, OR USA

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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Craig Montgomery]

Touring a backroad in Central AZ. 2 day's ride from anywhere. Lost a 
filling. Had a chunk of Grant's Original Beeswax in my kit. Took out my 
trusty Swiss Army knife and heated up a pea-sized piece with the magnifying 
glass. Pushed it into the hole. Stayed there for a week and half till I 
could get to my dentist. He was duly impressed. 

Craig in Tucson

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:10:13 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I bought one of the original Dixie Cups of beeswax from Rivendell as long 
> as 20 or 25 years ago, and could never find a real use for it: Loctite is 
> easier and works perfectly for threads, I prefer the way the little 
> squishable aluminum end caps look on cable ends, and Johnson's Paste Wax or 
> the lotion I use on my leather chairs works better for my (Flite) saddles.
>
> Long ago I mixed the wax with olive oil thinking that it might make a good 
> leather dressing, tho' an excessively chi chi one (don't use edible 
> products on your bicycle, I say), but it didn't work as well as the above.
>
> I later for some reason mixed it with Vaseline, and then it sat for a 
> decade or more.
>
> Well! I've found a truly useful use for it! Butch Wax! 
>
> Ever since I stopped wearing my hair in a pony tail about 5 years ago I've 
> been having it cut to about 1/2" on top and whitewalls on the side, to last 
> 8 weeks with minor trimming. But the top hair won't stay down until it's 
> 1.5" long or so, and sleeping on it makes it look messy. Whence the desire 
> for Butch Wax. No longer made, but a week or so ago I had an epiphany: use 
> the beeswax + Vaseline mix for Butch Wax. It works quite well.
>
> (No paraffin devotional candles In the Orthodox church, where paraffin is 
> canonically limited to waxing chains. But the beeswax candle ends provide a 
> never-ending supply of wax for secular purposes.)
>
> Thought you'd like to know.
>
> What do *you* use beeswax for, besides devotional candles? 
>
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> -- 
>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I bought one of those lumps too. (Don't think the cup survived.) I keep 
some in the basement shop and some in the garage shop. 
If I'm building a wheel, I'll first drag the threaded ends across the wax 
to ease building and maybe give some thread locking, but more in hopes of 
keeping moisture from being forced into the junction of spoke and nipple 
threads as the wheel spins.
It's very good stuff for putting on any threaded fastener or hook that goes 
into wood. Much easier, even with a battery-powered, handheld drill.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:10:13 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I bought one of the original Dixie Cups of beeswax from Rivendell as long 
> as 20 or 25 years ago, and could never find a real use for it: Loctite is 
> easier and works perfectly for threads, I prefer the way the little 
> squishable aluminum end caps look on cable ends, and Johnson's Paste Wax or 
> the lotion I use on my leather chairs works better for my (Flite) saddles.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Ray Varella]

For decades I have used beeswax on wooden  tool handles and on wooden knife 
handles. 
Having spent decades butchering meat, poultry and seafood, I found it to be the 
best treatment. 
I gently warm the handle, rub with beeswax, gently warm again. 
It’s ever so slightly tacky at first but burnishes nicely with the first use. 

It’s really critical not to get wooden handles too wet lest they dry out and 
crack and split. 

I used brylcream and Vo-5 under protest as a little kid. 
My father used it on his hair. 
Butch wax and the Glasspacks was a local band. 


Ray

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 12:31:58 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Butch Wax is quite a bit more waxy and far less greasy than pomade; it was 
> made for the crew cuts popular in the '50s and early '60s, to make the hair 
> stand up. But it works to keep 3/4" long hair down, too. Pomade was 
> basically scented Vaseline.
>
> I am old enough, and lived in places that were backward enough, to have 
> used real pomade -- as an 11 year old boy in Bangalore in 1966, when I 
> started getting fashion conscious and let my hair grow out to combable 
> length (1.5") instead of the #2 guard buzz cuts my father would give my 
> brother and I every 2 weeks in the bathtub. Bangalore in 1966 was like the 
> US -- or better, Britain -- in 1950*, and you could still buy locally 
> manufactured, florally-scented grease for your hair. I thought it was 
> stylin'.
>
> *Long before it became part of the Indian Silicon Valley it had been a 
> British Indian Army cantonment town (3,000 feet above sea level, thus a bit 
> cooler in the horrible hot and immediately pre-monsoon seasons); in 1966 it 
> still had something of this flavor, rather mildewed.
>

Patrick, your story reminded me of an old classmate. We never kept in touch 
after school, and I don't even remember his name, but I remember his hair. 
It was medium-long, and nothing special, except he always used so much 
strong gel that it formed a rigid structure on his head. One time, it 
started raining when we were running a 2.4km loop during PE. Lo and behold, 
he came back soaked but with his hair almost intact. We were laughing that 
his time was so good because his gelled hair made a peak/brim that allowed 
his unfair advantage of being able to see where he was going in the 
torrential rain.

PS: After I typed out my story, I suddenly remembered the hair styling 
product *Brylcreem* (no, I never used it). It's not butch wax, nor pomade, 
but a quick look at its Wiki page indicated that it's an emulsion of water 
and mineral oil stabilized with *beeswax*. Yet another use for beeswax!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick, if there are no pictures of the hairdo it didn't happen!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Patrick Moore]

Sheesh. "And *me."*

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 1:31 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Butch Wax is quite a bit more waxy and far less greasy than pomade; it was
> made for the crew cuts popular in the '50s and early '60s, to make the hair
> stand up. But it works to keep 3/4" long hair down, too. Pomade was
> basically scented Vaseline.
>
> I am old enough, and lived in places that were backward enough, to have
> used real pomade -- as an 11 year old boy in Bangalore in 1966, when I
> started getting fashion conscious and let my hair grow out to combable
> length (1.5") instead of the #2 guard buzz cuts my father would give my
> brother and I every 2 weeks in the bathtub. Bangalore in 1966 was like the
> US -- or better, Britain -- in 1950*, and you could still buy locally
> manufactured, florally-scented grease for your hair. I thought it was
> stylin'.
>
> *Long before it became part of the Indian Silicon Valley it had been a
> British Indian Army cantonment town (3,000 feet above sea level, thus a bit
> cooler in the horrible hot and immediately pre-monsoon seasons); in 1966 it
> still had something of this flavor, rather mildewed.
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 10:00 AM Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
> wrote:
>
>> Patrick, is butch wax different from pomade?
>>
>> I haven't had a super-short haircut since I was 12 or 13, when I got
>> totally buzzed (shorter than crew cut), together with a friend, on a dare
>> from another friend. Yeah, stupid things teens do…
>>
>> I used beeswax to waterproof the Brompton bag that I made from Joann
>> Fabric heavyweight cotton canvas. I was surprised at how much beeswax the
>> fabric absorbed, once heated up with a hairdryer. It took almost a
>> fist-sized amount and didn't even exhibit the sheen I've seen on
>> commercially treated cotton (like on some Filsons), much less extrude a
>> surface layer that would crack when the underlying fabric is flexed (as I
>> had feared). It did bead and shed water like a duck, and that's all that I
>> cared about.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Patrick Moore]

Butch Wax is quite a bit more waxy and far less greasy than pomade; it was
made for the crew cuts popular in the '50s and early '60s, to make the hair
stand up. But it works to keep 3/4" long hair down, too. Pomade was
basically scented Vaseline.

I am old enough, and lived in places that were backward enough, to have
used real pomade -- as an 11 year old boy in Bangalore in 1966, when I
started getting fashion conscious and let my hair grow out to combable
length (1.5") instead of the #2 guard buzz cuts my father would give my
brother and I every 2 weeks in the bathtub. Bangalore in 1966 was like the
US -- or better, Britain -- in 1950*, and you could still buy locally
manufactured, florally-scented grease for your hair. I thought it was
stylin'.

*Long before it became part of the Indian Silicon Valley it had been a
British Indian Army cantonment town (3,000 feet above sea level, thus a bit
cooler in the horrible hot and immediately pre-monsoon seasons); in 1966 it
still had something of this flavor, rather mildewed.

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 10:00 AM Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> Patrick, is butch wax different from pomade?
>
> I haven't had a super-short haircut since I was 12 or 13, when I got
> totally buzzed (shorter than crew cut), together with a friend, on a dare
> from another friend. Yeah, stupid things teens do…
>
> I used beeswax to waterproof the Brompton bag that I made from Joann
> Fabric heavyweight cotton canvas. I was surprised at how much beeswax the
> fabric absorbed, once heated up with a hairdryer. It took almost a
> fist-sized amount and didn't even exhibit the sheen I've seen on
> commercially treated cotton (like on some Filsons), much less extrude a
> surface layer that would crack when the underlying fabric is flexed (as I
> had feared). It did bead and shed water like a duck, and that's all that I
> cared about.
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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

Patrick, is butch wax different from pomade?

I haven't had a super-short haircut since I was 12 or 13, when I got 
totally buzzed (shorter than crew cut), together with a friend, on a dare 
from another friend. Yeah, stupid things teens do…

I used beeswax to waterproof the Brompton bag that I made from Joann Fabric 
heavyweight cotton canvas. I was surprised at how much beeswax the fabric 
absorbed, once heated up with a hairdryer. It took almost a fist-sized 
amount and didn't even exhibit the sheen I've seen on commercially treated 
cotton (like on some Filsons), much less extrude a surface layer that would 
crack when the underlying fabric is flexed (as I had feared). It did bead 
and shed water like a duck, and that's all that I cared about.

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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Jesse]

I make paw balm for my dogs with beeswax and coconut oil. 

I'm also about to wax some cotton trousers with 100% beeswax. 

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