Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Jacob, 
Others may have to weigh in on this, but I'm inclined to say the chain stay 
length has not changed for the Sam Hillborne - yet. Since the Homer Hilsen did 
get longer, it may just be a matter of time. I own personal preference would 
not to mess with it. Some minor changes were made since my 2015 model, mainly 
the seat cluster. But that is rather a minor aesthetic difference. I think my 
original double top tube 2007 Sam used a different tubing, before their 
"Silver" tubes were introduced.(My guess is the "socket-type" connection used 
on most Riv models now at the seat cluster is easier (cheaper?) to manufacture 
and probably takes less skill / time / labor to braze. (I would like to know if 
one of you RBW frame builders can answer, I would be obliged.)
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.


On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 07:08:52 PM EDT, Jacob Yosowitz 
 wrote:   

 I appreciate the responses and resources shared! 
What year did the geometry change for longer chainstays occur on the sam?

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 5:28:51 AM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

If you happen to be driving to Chicago through Ontario (Canada) you’re welcome 
to try out my Roadini (size 57).

Jason

On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:41 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:



Jacob,


I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both a 
Homer and a Sam. The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 
2-3 day tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. The 
Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including "unpavement". 
Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider if 
you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" design, 
but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, if that is 
your choice. I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While 
the Homer has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and 
credit card touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. You 
obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these would 
offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same 
enthusiasm you've shared above.Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.
On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of my 
local food co op




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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Jacob Yosowitz]

I appreciate the responses and resources shared! 
What year did the geometry change for longer chainstays occur on the sam?

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 5:28:51 AM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

> If you happen to be driving to Chicago through Ontario (Canada) you’re 
> welcome to try out my Roadini (size 57).
>
> Jason
>
> On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:41 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Jacob,
>
>
> I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both 
> a Homer and a Sam. 
> The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 2-3 day 
> tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. 
> The Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including 
> "unpavement". 
> Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider 
> if you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" 
> design, but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, 
> if that is your choice. 
> I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While the 
> Homer has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and 
> credit card touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. 
> You obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these 
> would offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same 
> enthusiasm you've shared above.
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
> my local food co op
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Jason Noonievut]

If you happen to be driving to Chicago through Ontario (Canada) you’re welcome to try out my Roadini (size 57).JasonOn Jul 2, 2024, at 9:41 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Jacob,I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both a Homer and a Sam. The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 2-3 day tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. The Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including "unpavement". Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider if you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" design, but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, if that is your choice. I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While the Homer has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and credit card touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. You obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these would offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same enthusiasm you've shared above.Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of my local food co op



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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Jacob,

I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both 
a Homer and a Sam. 
The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 2-3 day 
tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. 
The Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including 
"unpavement". 
Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider 
if you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" 
design, but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, 
if that is your choice. 
I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While the Homer 
has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and credit card 
touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. You 
obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these 
would offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same 
enthusiasm you've shared above.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
my local food co op

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Roberta]

It's very exciting especially when the anticipation is high and the 
resulting bike is even better.

Analog Cycles in VT may have some built up.  I think Maine Bike Works is 
also a dealer.  I do believe that there is a Homer riding guy at Keystone 
bikes in Philadelphia, but they aren't a Riv dealer, yet.  Isn't there some 
fabulous dealer in Chicago--Mack's?  
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/dealers?_pos=1&_sid=1f17f0872&_ss=r 

I was lucky enough to be able to try a number of models in my size when 
Analog was located in MD.  I've had enough to know my Riv sizing.  Lastly, 
perhaps a trip to HQ?  You won't even need to rent a car to visit them.  

I think a Sam would be an excellent choice for you based on your needs and 
wants.

Roberta

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
> my local food co op a few years back, set up with nitto albastache bars and 
> I thought what is THAT?! I was enthralled by the lugs, the thin steel road 
> like frame rocking fat tires, and the bars. love at first sight!
>
> My current collection includes a lovely purple waterford road bike i 
> inherited from my grandpa, he had great taste. I love zipping around on 
> that no frills frame. And a '85 schwinn high sierra set up as a commuter. I 
> purchased it for touring but find it a bit unstable and wonky geometry for 
> long rides. 
>
> I'm ready to bite the bullet and purchase a rivendell. I think id be happy 
> on a Sam, I want something with a bit of zip, but still able to load up for 
> tours and exploration. I'm only 150lbs so i feel like i could get away with 
> a Sam for touring as opposed to one of the heavier more dedicated touring 
> models. Would love any input.
>
> My pbh is 86 and I live in Maine right now, but willing to drive some 
> distance for the right bike. I'll be in chicago in mid july as well 
> visiting family, so can set something up there too.
> Side note: I absolutely love the orange colorway on sam frames, thats my 
> dream bike! if you have one and are willing to part with it, you'd make me 
> a happy camper.
>
> Look forward to hearing from you all! 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Valerie Yates]

Sam is a great choice. Orange Sam especially. Please heed the warnings 
about anyone who contacts you off list with a bike they are purporting to 
sell. 

Best,
Val in Boulder
On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 6:58:34 PM UTC-6 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
> my local food co op a few years back, set up with nitto albastache bars and 
> I thought what is THAT?! I was enthralled by the lugs, the thin steel road 
> like frame rocking fat tires, and the bars. love at first sight!
>
> My current collection includes a lovely purple waterford road bike i 
> inherited from my grandpa, he had great taste. I love zipping around on 
> that no frills frame. And a '85 schwinn high sierra set up as a commuter. I 
> purchased it for touring but find it a bit unstable and wonky geometry for 
> long rides. 
>
> I'm ready to bite the bullet and purchase a rivendell. I think id be happy 
> on a Sam, I want something with a bit of zip, but still able to load up for 
> tours and exploration. I'm only 150lbs so i feel like i could get away with 
> a Sam for touring as opposed to one of the heavier more dedicated touring 
> models. Would love any input.
>
> My pbh is 86 and I live in Maine right now, but willing to drive some 
> distance for the right bike. I'll be in chicago in mid july as well 
> visiting family, so can set something up there too.
> Side note: I absolutely love the orange colorway on sam frames, thats my 
> dream bike! if you have one and are willing to part with it, you'd make me 
> a happy camper.
>
> Look forward to hearing from you all! 
>

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