[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Bill Lindsay]

"I'd trust that any price you'd quote would be fair, and I'd pay right 
away."

In that case... ONE BILLION DOLLARS!  Muahaha!

Bill "dr evil" Lindsay
EC, CA

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 12:35:17 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> I'd trust that any price you'd quote would be fair, and I'd pay right away.
>
> Let me speak with Keystone Bike about these options and I'll contact you 
> off line (PM).  Thanks, everyone
>
> BTW, I came to Riv because my last bike had too long a reach and was 
> hurting my neck.  I had no idea that I could swap a handle bar or stem!  
> Now look at me saying things like "COGS" and "shifters."
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> " I'll send you my cog count and address tonight.  The check will be in 
>> the mail!  :)"
>>
>> I didn't even state a price beyond "cheap" for this single left-side 
>> shifter.  If you want just a single shifter to play with, cool.  $25 
>> shipped for one left side Micro shift thumb shifter.
>>
>> I did the test-fit and the Shimano left side Bar Con shifter does fit 
>> onto the Micro Shift base -BUT- the cable slot does not line up well with 
>> the barrel adjuster, so I don't personally recommend using it in that 
>> configuration.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 11:24:05 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I cannot say no to an offer like that, especially if I know either 
>>> shifter would fit onto that base!  Thanks Bill! 
>>>
>>> I don't care which shifters I use, as long as they are friction and 
>>> shift well.  I did forget to count my cogs.  I'll send you my cog count and 
>>> address tonight.  The check will be in the mail!  :)
>>>
>>> What a great group!  
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:04:42 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 "I have an albatross handlebar.  "

 Excellent.  That makes it very simple.  Regarding that lustily endorsed 
 Microshift product: I have one that you can have for cheap.  Old friend 
 Doug handed me a box of parts to sell, because he can't be bothered with 
 selling stuff.  I told him what everything was worth and paid him, minus 
 my 
 "commission".  

 Or, if you like, I'd be willing to test-fit a Shimano bar-con onto that 
 Microshift base, and send you photos.  That would be a cool thing for you 
 to know: that you could buy those Micro-shift shifters for ~$70 and try 
 them and still have the option to put your Shimano shifters onto the base 
 part.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:26:54 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Wow, seems like Microshift are very well liked. I’ll ask my bike shop 
> about them and other options. I’m not against changing the shifter as 
> long 
> as they works well . 
>
> I have an albatross handlebar.  
>
> Roberta
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 12:42:23 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Roberta
>>
>> With the information given so far, there is one big "gotcha".  What 
>> clamp diameter do you need?  There are no fewer than five possibilities 
>> for 
>> what you need, and Paul Thumbies only are made in two of those five 
>> sizes. 
>>  Can you share a photo of your bike?  
>>
>> The five possible sizes are:
>>
>> 22.2mm
>> 23.8mm
>> 25.4mm
>> 26.0mm
>> 31.8mm
>>
>> Do you have albatross bars?  Or drop bars?  Albastache?  
>>
>> If you have Albatross bars, those take a 22.2mm clamp, and Paul 
>> Thumbies can go "anywhere" along those bars.  Also, many of the complete 
>> shifters folks have recommended would also fit because they all have 
>> 22.2mm 
>> clamps.  Drop bars and Albastache will want 23.8mm clamps which is 
>> trickier.  If you want to clamp on the sleeve near the stem, you may 
>> need 
>> 25.4mm or 26.0mm, which no longer are made in Paul Thumbies (but they 
>> used 
>> to be).  31.8mm is the clamp diameter for modern drop bars on the bulge 
>> near the stem.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:04:46 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that 
>>> work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because 
>>> of 
>>> me knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned 
>>> on 
>>> a wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone 
>>> Bikes, 
>>> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that 
>>> the 
>>> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
>>> 

[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Roberta]

I'd trust that any price you'd quote would be fair, and I'd pay right away.

Let me speak with Keystone Bike about these options and I'll contact you 
off line (PM).  Thanks, everyone

BTW, I came to Riv because my last bike had too long a reach and was 
hurting my neck.  I had no idea that I could swap a handle bar or stem!  
Now look at me saying things like "COGS" and "shifters."



On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> " I'll send you my cog count and address tonight.  The check will be in 
> the mail!  :)"
>
> I didn't even state a price beyond "cheap" for this single left-side 
> shifter.  If you want just a single shifter to play with, cool.  $25 
> shipped for one left side Micro shift thumb shifter.
>
> I did the test-fit and the Shimano left side Bar Con shifter does fit onto 
> the Micro Shift base -BUT- the cable slot does not line up well with the 
> barrel adjuster, so I don't personally recommend using it in that 
> configuration.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 11:24:05 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Well, I cannot say no to an offer like that, especially if I know either 
>> shifter would fit onto that base!  Thanks Bill! 
>>
>> I don't care which shifters I use, as long as they are friction and shift 
>> well.  I did forget to count my cogs.  I'll send you my cog count and 
>> address tonight.  The check will be in the mail!  :)
>>
>> What a great group!  
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:04:42 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> "I have an albatross handlebar.  "
>>>
>>> Excellent.  That makes it very simple.  Regarding that lustily endorsed 
>>> Microshift product: I have one that you can have for cheap.  Old friend 
>>> Doug handed me a box of parts to sell, because he can't be bothered with 
>>> selling stuff.  I told him what everything was worth and paid him, minus my 
>>> "commission".  
>>>
>>> Or, if you like, I'd be willing to test-fit a Shimano bar-con onto that 
>>> Microshift base, and send you photos.  That would be a cool thing for you 
>>> to know: that you could buy those Micro-shift shifters for ~$70 and try 
>>> them and still have the option to put your Shimano shifters onto the base 
>>> part.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:26:54 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Wow, seems like Microshift are very well liked. I’ll ask my bike shop 
 about them and other options. I’m not against changing the shifter as long 
 as they works well . 

 I have an albatross handlebar.  

 Roberta

 On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 12:42:23 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Roberta
>
> With the information given so far, there is one big "gotcha".  What 
> clamp diameter do you need?  There are no fewer than five possibilities 
> for 
> what you need, and Paul Thumbies only are made in two of those five 
> sizes. 
>  Can you share a photo of your bike?  
>
> The five possible sizes are:
>
> 22.2mm
> 23.8mm
> 25.4mm
> 26.0mm
> 31.8mm
>
> Do you have albatross bars?  Or drop bars?  Albastache?  
>
> If you have Albatross bars, those take a 22.2mm clamp, and Paul 
> Thumbies can go "anywhere" along those bars.  Also, many of the complete 
> shifters folks have recommended would also fit because they all have 
> 22.2mm 
> clamps.  Drop bars and Albastache will want 23.8mm clamps which is 
> trickier.  If you want to clamp on the sleeve near the stem, you may need 
> 25.4mm or 26.0mm, which no longer are made in Paul Thumbies (but they 
> used 
> to be).  31.8mm is the clamp diameter for modern drop bars on the bulge 
> near the stem.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:04:46 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that 
>> work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because 
>> of 
>> me knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned 
>> on 
>> a wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone 
>> Bikes, 
>> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that 
>> the 
>> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
>> 
>>  
>> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
>> is 
>> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both 
>> shifters 
>> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>>
>> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
>> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't 
>> know 
>> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know P

[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Bill Lindsay]

" I'll send you my cog count and address tonight.  The check will be in the 
mail!  :)"

I didn't even state a price beyond "cheap" for this single left-side 
shifter.  If you want just a single shifter to play with, cool.  $25 
shipped for one left side Micro shift thumb shifter.

I did the test-fit and the Shimano left side Bar Con shifter does fit onto 
the Micro Shift base -BUT- the cable slot does not line up well with the 
barrel adjuster, so I don't personally recommend using it in that 
configuration.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 11:24:05 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Well, I cannot say no to an offer like that, especially if I know either 
> shifter would fit onto that base!  Thanks Bill! 
>
> I don't care which shifters I use, as long as they are friction and shift 
> well.  I did forget to count my cogs.  I'll send you my cog count and 
> address tonight.  The check will be in the mail!  :)
>
> What a great group!  
>
> Roberta
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:04:42 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> "I have an albatross handlebar.  "
>>
>> Excellent.  That makes it very simple.  Regarding that lustily endorsed 
>> Microshift product: I have one that you can have for cheap.  Old friend 
>> Doug handed me a box of parts to sell, because he can't be bothered with 
>> selling stuff.  I told him what everything was worth and paid him, minus my 
>> "commission".  
>>
>> Or, if you like, I'd be willing to test-fit a Shimano bar-con onto that 
>> Microshift base, and send you photos.  That would be a cool thing for you 
>> to know: that you could buy those Micro-shift shifters for ~$70 and try 
>> them and still have the option to put your Shimano shifters onto the base 
>> part.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:26:54 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, seems like Microshift are very well liked. I’ll ask my bike shop 
>>> about them and other options. I’m not against changing the shifter as long 
>>> as they works well . 
>>>
>>> I have an albatross handlebar.  
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 12:42:23 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Roberta

 With the information given so far, there is one big "gotcha".  What 
 clamp diameter do you need?  There are no fewer than five possibilities 
 for 
 what you need, and Paul Thumbies only are made in two of those five sizes. 
  Can you share a photo of your bike?  

 The five possible sizes are:

 22.2mm
 23.8mm
 25.4mm
 26.0mm
 31.8mm

 Do you have albatross bars?  Or drop bars?  Albastache?  

 If you have Albatross bars, those take a 22.2mm clamp, and Paul 
 Thumbies can go "anywhere" along those bars.  Also, many of the complete 
 shifters folks have recommended would also fit because they all have 
 22.2mm 
 clamps.  Drop bars and Albastache will want 23.8mm clamps which is 
 trickier.  If you want to clamp on the sleeve near the stem, you may need 
 25.4mm or 26.0mm, which no longer are made in Paul Thumbies (but they used 
 to be).  31.8mm is the clamp diameter for modern drop bars on the bulge 
 near the stem.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:04:46 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that 
> work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because 
> of 
> me knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned 
> on 
> a wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone 
> Bikes, 
> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that 
> the 
> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
> 
>  
> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
> is 
> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both 
> shifters 
> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>
> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't 
> know 
> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and 
> I'm 
> at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once. 
>  
>
> Thanks for the input. 
>
> Roberta
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Roberta]

Well, I cannot say no to an offer like that, especially if I know either 
shifter would fit onto that base!  Thanks Bill! 

I don't care which shifters I use, as long as they are friction and shift 
well.  I did forget to count my cogs.  I'll send you my cog count and 
address tonight.  The check will be in the mail!  :)

What a great group!  

Roberta

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:04:42 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "I have an albatross handlebar.  "
>
> Excellent.  That makes it very simple.  Regarding that lustily endorsed 
> Microshift product: I have one that you can have for cheap.  Old friend 
> Doug handed me a box of parts to sell, because he can't be bothered with 
> selling stuff.  I told him what everything was worth and paid him, minus my 
> "commission".  
>
> Or, if you like, I'd be willing to test-fit a Shimano bar-con onto that 
> Microshift base, and send you photos.  That would be a cool thing for you 
> to know: that you could buy those Micro-shift shifters for ~$70 and try 
> them and still have the option to put your Shimano shifters onto the base 
> part.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:26:54 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Wow, seems like Microshift are very well liked. I’ll ask my bike shop 
>> about them and other options. I’m not against changing the shifter as long 
>> as they works well . 
>>
>> I have an albatross handlebar.  
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 12:42:23 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> With the information given so far, there is one big "gotcha".  What 
>>> clamp diameter do you need?  There are no fewer than five possibilities for 
>>> what you need, and Paul Thumbies only are made in two of those five sizes. 
>>>  Can you share a photo of your bike?  
>>>
>>> The five possible sizes are:
>>>
>>> 22.2mm
>>> 23.8mm
>>> 25.4mm
>>> 26.0mm
>>> 31.8mm
>>>
>>> Do you have albatross bars?  Or drop bars?  Albastache?  
>>>
>>> If you have Albatross bars, those take a 22.2mm clamp, and Paul Thumbies 
>>> can go "anywhere" along those bars.  Also, many of the complete shifters 
>>> folks have recommended would also fit because they all have 22.2mm clamps. 
>>>  Drop bars and Albastache will want 23.8mm clamps which is trickier.  If 
>>> you want to clamp on the sleeve near the stem, you may need 25.4mm or 
>>> 26.0mm, which no longer are made in Paul Thumbies (but they used to be). 
>>>  31.8mm is the clamp diameter for modern drop bars on the bulge near the 
>>> stem.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:04:46 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that 
 work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of 
 me knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on 
 a wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone 
 Bikes, 
 for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that the 
 part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
 
  
 is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
 is 
 cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both 
 shifters 
 and setting the thumb mounts up."

 I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
 opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't 
 know 
 to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and I'm 
 at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once.  

 Thanks for the input. 

 Roberta




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[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Bill Lindsay]

"I have an albatross handlebar.  "

Excellent.  That makes it very simple.  Regarding that lustily endorsed 
Microshift product: I have one that you can have for cheap.  Old friend 
Doug handed me a box of parts to sell, because he can't be bothered with 
selling stuff.  I told him what everything was worth and paid him, minus my 
"commission".  

Or, if you like, I'd be willing to test-fit a Shimano bar-con onto that 
Microshift base, and send you photos.  That would be a cool thing for you 
to know: that you could buy those Micro-shift shifters for ~$70 and try 
them and still have the option to put your Shimano shifters onto the base 
part.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 1:26:54 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Wow, seems like Microshift are very well liked. I’ll ask my bike shop 
> about them and other options. I’m not against changing the shifter as long 
> as they works well . 
>
> I have an albatross handlebar.  
>
> Roberta
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 12:42:23 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Roberta
>>
>> With the information given so far, there is one big "gotcha".  What clamp 
>> diameter do you need?  There are no fewer than five possibilities for what 
>> you need, and Paul Thumbies only are made in two of those five sizes.  Can 
>> you share a photo of your bike?  
>>
>> The five possible sizes are:
>>
>> 22.2mm
>> 23.8mm
>> 25.4mm
>> 26.0mm
>> 31.8mm
>>
>> Do you have albatross bars?  Or drop bars?  Albastache?  
>>
>> If you have Albatross bars, those take a 22.2mm clamp, and Paul Thumbies 
>> can go "anywhere" along those bars.  Also, many of the complete shifters 
>> folks have recommended would also fit because they all have 22.2mm clamps. 
>>  Drop bars and Albastache will want 23.8mm clamps which is trickier.  If 
>> you want to clamp on the sleeve near the stem, you may need 25.4mm or 
>> 26.0mm, which no longer are made in Paul Thumbies (but they used to be). 
>>  31.8mm is the clamp diameter for modern drop bars on the bulge near the 
>> stem.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:04:46 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that 
>>> work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of 
>>> me knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on 
>>> a wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone Bikes, 
>>> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that the 
>>> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
>>> is 
>>> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both shifters 
>>> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>>>
>>> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
>>> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't know 
>>> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and I'm 
>>> at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once.  
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input. 
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[chintan jadwani]

There is a budget option from the UK 
- 
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/gear-spares/jtek-special-thumb-shifter-brackets-for-222-mm-bars-black/?geoc=IN

You will need barrel adjusters - not too hard to find. There is a shipping 
cost but SJS has a lot of good stuff you can add to your order from the 
money you'll save :) plus the VAT is deducted for products shipped out of 
the country so it may work out well.

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 10:11:19 PM UTC+5:30 JAS wrote:

> Roberta,
> I have Microshift units on my Clem and Rivendell Silver shifters/levers on 
> the Platypus.  I like them both,  but Microshift shifts better.  Good luck 
> with your decision!  There's lots of good advice in this thread.
>
> RivSisters,
> Joyce
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 7:07:35 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 6:04:46 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that work 
>> fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of me 
>> knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on a 
>> wall .
>>
>>
>> If your bike has downtube shifter mounts you can mount them there.
>>
>> Ted Durant 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[JAS]

Roberta,
I have Microshift units on my Clem and Rivendell Silver shifters/levers on 
the Platypus.  I like them both,  but Microshift shifts better.  Good luck 
with your decision!  There's lots of good advice in this thread.

RivSisters,
Joyce

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 7:07:35 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 6:04:46 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that work 
> fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of me 
> knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on a 
> wall .
>
>
> If your bike has downtube shifter mounts you can mount them there.
>
> Ted Durant 
>

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[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Ted Durant]

On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 6:04:46 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that work 
fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of me 
knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on a 
wall .


If your bike has downtube shifter mounts you can mount them there.

Ted Durant 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[David Ross]

They work very well. They’re not quite as beautiful as a silver shifter or
dura ace, but they shift incredibly well. I have a pair on a vintage
Stumpjumper that I ride on fairly extreme off road rides and they have been
smooth, yet bulletproof.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 4:27 AM Roberta  wrote:

> Wow, seems like Microshift are very well liked. I’ll ask my bike shop
> about them and other options. I’m not against changing the shifter as long
> as they works well .
>
> I have an albatross handlebar.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 12:42:23 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Roberta
>>
>> With the information given so far, there is one big "gotcha".  What clamp
>> diameter do you need?  There are no fewer than five possibilities for what
>> you need, and Paul Thumbies only are made in two of those five sizes.  Can
>> you share a photo of your bike?
>>
>> The five possible sizes are:
>>
>> 22.2mm
>> 23.8mm
>> 25.4mm
>> 26.0mm
>> 31.8mm
>>
>> Do you have albatross bars?  Or drop bars?  Albastache?
>>
>> If you have Albatross bars, those take a 22.2mm clamp, and Paul Thumbies
>> can go "anywhere" along those bars.  Also, many of the complete shifters
>> folks have recommended would also fit because they all have 22.2mm clamps.
>> Drop bars and Albastache will want 23.8mm clamps which is trickier.  If you
>> want to clamp on the sleeve near the stem, you may need 25.4mm or 26.0mm,
>> which no longer are made in Paul Thumbies (but they used to be).  31.8mm is
>> the clamp diameter for modern drop bars on the bulge near the stem.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:04:46 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that
>>> work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of
>>> me knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on
>>> a wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone Bikes,
>>> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that the
>>> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie
>>> 
>>> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent
>>> is
>>> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both shifters
>>> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>>>
>>> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some
>>> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't know
>>> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and I'm
>>> at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Roberta]

Wow, seems like Microshift are very well liked. I’ll ask my bike shop about 
them and other options. I’m not against changing the shifter as long as 
they works well . 

I have an albatross handlebar.  

Roberta

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 12:42:23 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Roberta
>
> With the information given so far, there is one big "gotcha".  What clamp 
> diameter do you need?  There are no fewer than five possibilities for what 
> you need, and Paul Thumbies only are made in two of those five sizes.  Can 
> you share a photo of your bike?  
>
> The five possible sizes are:
>
> 22.2mm
> 23.8mm
> 25.4mm
> 26.0mm
> 31.8mm
>
> Do you have albatross bars?  Or drop bars?  Albastache?  
>
> If you have Albatross bars, those take a 22.2mm clamp, and Paul Thumbies 
> can go "anywhere" along those bars.  Also, many of the complete shifters 
> folks have recommended would also fit because they all have 22.2mm clamps. 
>  Drop bars and Albastache will want 23.8mm clamps which is trickier.  If 
> you want to clamp on the sleeve near the stem, you may need 25.4mm or 
> 26.0mm, which no longer are made in Paul Thumbies (but they used to be). 
>  31.8mm is the clamp diameter for modern drop bars on the bulge near the 
> stem.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:04:46 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that work 
>> fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of me 
>> knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on a 
>> wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone Bikes, 
>> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that the 
>> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
>> 
>>  
>> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
>> is 
>> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both shifters 
>> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>>
>> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
>> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't know 
>> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and I'm 
>> at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once.  
>>
>> Thanks for the input. 
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Bill Lindsay]

Roberta

With the information given so far, there is one big "gotcha".  What clamp 
diameter do you need?  There are no fewer than five possibilities for what 
you need, and Paul Thumbies only are made in two of those five sizes.  Can 
you share a photo of your bike?  

The five possible sizes are:

22.2mm
23.8mm
25.4mm
26.0mm
31.8mm

Do you have albatross bars?  Or drop bars?  Albastache?  

If you have Albatross bars, those take a 22.2mm clamp, and Paul Thumbies 
can go "anywhere" along those bars.  Also, many of the complete shifters 
folks have recommended would also fit because they all have 22.2mm clamps. 
 Drop bars and Albastache will want 23.8mm clamps which is trickier.  If 
you want to clamp on the sleeve near the stem, you may need 25.4mm or 
26.0mm, which no longer are made in Paul Thumbies (but they used to be). 
 31.8mm is the clamp diameter for modern drop bars on the bulge near the 
stem.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:04:46 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that work 
> fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of me 
> knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on a 
> wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone Bikes, 
> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that the 
> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
> 
>  
> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
> is 
> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both shifters 
> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>
> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't know 
> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and I'm 
> at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once.  
>
> Thanks for the input. 
>
> Roberta
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Will Boericke]

I may (will?) get hate mail for this, but there is an AliExpress knockoff 
of the thumbie mount that is reasonably-priced.  
(Ducking head to avoid thrown tomatoes).

Will near Boston
On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 9:09:51 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:

> Hi Roberta,
>
> I hesitate to chime in due to my embarrassing ignorance compared to the 
> vast majority of Riv owners; however, my great LBS just changed me over to 
> friction shifting for the Platypus with a Paul Thumbie and a Dura-Ace 
> shifter. So much smoother!! And more purple, too:)
>
> Good Luck with your decision!
> Sally
>
> [image: Dura-Ace Shifter.jpg]
> [image: Thumbie and Shifter.jpg]
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:07 PM Doug H.  wrote:
>
>> Roberta,
>> The Rivendell Silver thumb shifter mounts seem to be Shimano compatible. 
>> Here is the link: https://www.rivbike.com/products/z558mz-cnv-oialk
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 7:04:46 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that 
>>> work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of 
>>> me knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on 
>>> a wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone Bikes, 
>>> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that the 
>>> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
>>> is 
>>> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both shifters 
>>> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>>>
>>> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
>>> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't know 
>>> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and I'm 
>>> at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once.  
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input. 
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Doug H.]

Roberta,
The Rivendell Silver thumb shifter mounts seem to be Shimano compatible. 
Here is the link: https://www.rivbike.com/products/z558mz-cnv-oialk
Doug

On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 7:04:46 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that work 
> fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because of me 
> knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned on a 
> wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone Bikes, 
> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that the 
> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
> 
>  
> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
> is 
> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both shifters 
> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>
> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't know 
> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and I'm 
> at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once.  
>
> Thanks for the input. 
>
> Roberta
>
>
>

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