Re: [RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
Gernot, Your photo and explanation make it very clear. You'e even answered what would have been my next question about the Harris Cyclery statement "This can solve a number of problems..." Thanks, ...Roy On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > Look at http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/ > > The long bolt goes through your fork crown, and the forged part rises > up from it to accept the cable housing. The idea is that flex between > cantilever bosses and cable hanger are minimized. As braking force is > applied, the forks bend back slightly, which tightens the brake cable, > which causes the brake to engage more strongly, until it breaks free > and the cycle is repeated. By moving the brake hanger closer to the > fork this flex and the resulting squeal is minimized. > > Let me know if this is still unclear. > > Gernot > > > On Mar 12, 12:27 pm, Roy Yates wrote: > > A month or two ago, I studied the picture of item CAH59 for a good 10 > > minutes, but I never figured out how it worked. Instead I installed a > > traditional housing stop on the headset. I'm still curious to know what > > CAH59 does An explanation or picture would be great. > > > > Thanks, > > ...Roy > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > > > I had squealing with BR550s on an Indy Fab Planet X. Finally solved > > > with massive toe OUT. Toe in didn't do squat. > > > > > Have Tektro 720s on my Hillborne. Using a fork crown mounted Tektro > > > cable hanger, no squeal, without any toe in. Switched to a regular > > > headset mounted cable hanger, instant squeal, even after adjust toe in > > > a couple of times to pretty extreme levels. Switched pads to VO no > > > squeal, squeal gone. We'll see how long they last. > > > > > The hanger I am talking about is item CAH59 on > > >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/cable-hardware-brake.html > > > > > The Tektro fork crown mounted cable hanger is a god-send, but I had to > > > give it up because I installed a Nitto front rack AND fenders, and the > > > bolt on the rack is not quite long enough to accommodate everything. > > > Briefly thought of attaching the front fender L-bracket inside the > > > fork crown to shorten the stack, but that seemed overly fiddly. If the > > > VO pads wear too fast, perhaps I will resort to this option after all. > > > > > Gernot > > > > > On Mar 10, 7:37 am, Angus wrote: > > > > Seth, > > > > > > I have a set of Mafacs and have the same experience as > you...nosqueal. > > > > > > I have a set of Mafac copies (similar geometry) and they squealed and > > > > vibrated, a toe in adjustment (wrench) and they merely vibrated. > > > > > > They were quite loose on the cantilever post, the Mafacs are > > > > noticeably tighter. I don't have Pauls, but the look like they may > > > > not use the cantilever post as a bearing surface like the Mafacs do. > > > > > > Angus > > > > > > On Mar 8, 10:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > > > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > > > > > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squealpads worked for a while but > > > > > they wore down remarkably fast. > > > > > > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > > > > > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > > > > > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > > > > > pads, I took them out and found: > > > > > > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > > > > > 2. they don'tsqueal. > > > > > > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > > > > > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > > > > > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > > > > > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > > > > > > -sv > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com e...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
You can probably get the reach you need with a recessed brake bolt from a standard road caliper, although the Sheldon nuts may be what you would want with the fender. On Mar 11, 9:09 pm, Earl Grey wrote: > I had squealing with BR550s on an Indy Fab Planet X. Finally solved > with massive toe OUT. Toe in didn't do squat. > > Have Tektro 720s on my Hillborne. Using a fork crown mounted Tektro > cable hanger, no squeal, without any toe in. Switched to a regular > headset mounted cable hanger, instant squeal, even after adjust toe in > a couple of times to pretty extreme levels. Switched pads to VO no > squeal, squeal gone. We'll see how long they last. > > The hanger I am talking about is item CAH59 > onhttp://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/cable-hardware-brake.html > > The Tektro fork crown mounted cable hanger is a god-send, but I had to > give it up because I installed a Nitto front rack AND fenders, and the > bolt on the rack is not quite long enough to accommodate everything. > Briefly thought of attaching the front fender L-bracket inside the > fork crown to shorten the stack, but that seemed overly fiddly. If the > VO pads wear too fast, perhaps I will resort to this option after all. > > Gernot > > On Mar 10, 7:37 am, Angus wrote: > > > > > Seth, > > > I have a set of Mafacs and have the same experience as you...nosqueal. > > > I have a set of Mafac copies (similar geometry) and they squealed and > > vibrated, a toe in adjustment (wrench) and they merely vibrated. > > > They were quite loose on the cantilever post, the Mafacs are > > noticeably tighter. I don't have Pauls, but the look like they may > > not use the cantilever post as a bearing surface like the Mafacs do. > > > Angus > > > On Mar 8, 10:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > > > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squealpads worked for a while but > > > they wore down remarkably fast. > > > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > > > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > > > pads, I took them out and found: > > > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > > > 2. they don'tsqueal. > > > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > > > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > > > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > > > -sv- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
I had the shimano Br 550 cantis and found I could control the squeal, but setup was aweful and stopping power very poor. After a near death experience, compliments of shimano, I bought the Neo Retros and have loved everything about them. I no longer think about buying any other brand of brake for any of my bikes. The only thing I have ever had as good are a pair of early Chorus short reach. When the new standard reach version of the Racer is available I will buy it for my Rambouillet. Michael On Mar 8, 11:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squeal pads worked for a while but > they wore down remarkably fast. > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > pads, I took them out and found: > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > 2. they don't squeal. > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
That would never work for me. Right now, the Hillborne has Tektro 720 brakes and the front straddle hanger is a good two inches higher than in that photo. Just slightly under the headbadge. In that setup, the hanger clears everything, Nitto rack, front fender, and even the back of the Lil' Loafer. When lower, was actually catching on the leather of the bag. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mar 12, 12:54�am, Earl Grey wrote: > Look athttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/ > > The long bolt goes through your fork crown, and the forged part rises > up from it to accept the cable housing. The idea is that flex between > cantilever bosses and cable hanger are minimized. As braking force is > applied, the forks bend back slightly, which tightens the brake cable, > which causes the brake to engage more strongly, until it breaks free > and the cycle is repeated. By moving the brake hanger closer to the > fork this flex and the resulting squeal is minimized. > > Let me know if this is still unclear. > > Gernot > > On Mar 12, 12:27�pm, Roy Yates wrote: > > > > > A month or two ago, I studied the picture of item CAH59 for a good 10 > > minutes, but I never figured out how it worked. Instead I installed a > > traditional housing stop on the headset. I'm still curious to know what > > CAH59 does �An explanation or picture would be great. > > > Thanks, > > ...Roy > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > > > I had squealing with BR550s on an Indy Fab Planet X. Finally solved > > > with massive toe OUT. Toe in didn't do squat. > > > > Have Tektro 720s on my Hillborne. Using a fork crown mounted Tektro > > > cable hanger, no squeal, without any toe in. Switched to a regular > > > headset mounted cable hanger, instant squeal, even after adjust toe in > > > a couple of times to pretty extreme levels. Switched pads to VO no > > > squeal, squeal gone. We'll see how long they last. > > > > The hanger I am talking about is item CAH59 on > > >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/cable-hardware-brake.html > > > > The Tektro fork crown mounted cable hanger is a god-send, but I had to > > > give it up because I installed a Nitto front rack AND fenders, and the > > > bolt on the rack is not quite long enough to accommodate everything. > > > Briefly thought of attaching the front fender L-bracket inside the > > > fork crown to shorten the stack, but that seemed overly fiddly. If the > > > VO pads wear too fast, perhaps I will resort to this option after all. > > > > Gernot > > > > On Mar 10, 7:37 am, Angus wrote: > > > > Seth, > > > > > I have a set of Mafacs and have the same experience as you...nosqueal. > > > > > I have a set of Mafac copies (similar geometry) and they squealed and > > > > vibrated, a toe in adjustment (wrench) and they merely vibrated. > > > > > They were quite loose on the cantilever post, the Mafacs are > > > > noticeably tighter. �I don't have Pauls, but the look like they may > > > > not use the cantilever post as a bearing surface like the Mafacs do. > > > > > Angus > > > > > On Mar 8, 10:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > > > > > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squealpads worked for a while but > > > > > they wore down remarkably fast. > > > > > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > > > > > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > > > > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > > > > > pads, I took them out and found: > > > > > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > > > > > 2. they don'tsqueal. > > > > > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > > > > > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > > > > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > > > > > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > > > > > -sv > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > e...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
Look at http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/ The long bolt goes through your fork crown, and the forged part rises up from it to accept the cable housing. The idea is that flex between cantilever bosses and cable hanger are minimized. As braking force is applied, the forks bend back slightly, which tightens the brake cable, which causes the brake to engage more strongly, until it breaks free and the cycle is repeated. By moving the brake hanger closer to the fork this flex and the resulting squeal is minimized. Let me know if this is still unclear. Gernot On Mar 12, 12:27 pm, Roy Yates wrote: > A month or two ago, I studied the picture of item CAH59 for a good 10 > minutes, but I never figured out how it worked. Instead I installed a > traditional housing stop on the headset. I'm still curious to know what > CAH59 does An explanation or picture would be great. > > Thanks, > ...Roy > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > > I had squealing with BR550s on an Indy Fab Planet X. Finally solved > > with massive toe OUT. Toe in didn't do squat. > > > Have Tektro 720s on my Hillborne. Using a fork crown mounted Tektro > > cable hanger, no squeal, without any toe in. Switched to a regular > > headset mounted cable hanger, instant squeal, even after adjust toe in > > a couple of times to pretty extreme levels. Switched pads to VO no > > squeal, squeal gone. We'll see how long they last. > > > The hanger I am talking about is item CAH59 on > >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/cable-hardware-brake.html > > > The Tektro fork crown mounted cable hanger is a god-send, but I had to > > give it up because I installed a Nitto front rack AND fenders, and the > > bolt on the rack is not quite long enough to accommodate everything. > > Briefly thought of attaching the front fender L-bracket inside the > > fork crown to shorten the stack, but that seemed overly fiddly. If the > > VO pads wear too fast, perhaps I will resort to this option after all. > > > Gernot > > > On Mar 10, 7:37 am, Angus wrote: > > > Seth, > > > > I have a set of Mafacs and have the same experience as you...nosqueal. > > > > I have a set of Mafac copies (similar geometry) and they squealed and > > > vibrated, a toe in adjustment (wrench) and they merely vibrated. > > > > They were quite loose on the cantilever post, the Mafacs are > > > noticeably tighter. I don't have Pauls, but the look like they may > > > not use the cantilever post as a bearing surface like the Mafacs do. > > > > Angus > > > > On Mar 8, 10:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > > > > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squealpads worked for a while but > > > > they wore down remarkably fast. > > > > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > > > > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > > > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > > > > pads, I took them out and found: > > > > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > > > > 2. they don'tsqueal. > > > > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > > > > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > > > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > > > > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > e...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
A month or two ago, I studied the picture of item CAH59 for a good 10 minutes, but I never figured out how it worked. Instead I installed a traditional housing stop on the headset. I'm still curious to know what CAH59 does An explanation or picture would be great. Thanks, ...Roy On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > I had squealing with BR550s on an Indy Fab Planet X. Finally solved > with massive toe OUT. Toe in didn't do squat. > > Have Tektro 720s on my Hillborne. Using a fork crown mounted Tektro > cable hanger, no squeal, without any toe in. Switched to a regular > headset mounted cable hanger, instant squeal, even after adjust toe in > a couple of times to pretty extreme levels. Switched pads to VO no > squeal, squeal gone. We'll see how long they last. > > The hanger I am talking about is item CAH59 on > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/cable-hardware-brake.html > > The Tektro fork crown mounted cable hanger is a god-send, but I had to > give it up because I installed a Nitto front rack AND fenders, and the > bolt on the rack is not quite long enough to accommodate everything. > Briefly thought of attaching the front fender L-bracket inside the > fork crown to shorten the stack, but that seemed overly fiddly. If the > VO pads wear too fast, perhaps I will resort to this option after all. > > Gernot > > On Mar 10, 7:37 am, Angus wrote: > > Seth, > > > > I have a set of Mafacs and have the same experience as you...nosqueal. > > > > I have a set of Mafac copies (similar geometry) and they squealed and > > vibrated, a toe in adjustment (wrench) and they merely vibrated. > > > > They were quite loose on the cantilever post, the Mafacs are > > noticeably tighter. I don't have Pauls, but the look like they may > > not use the cantilever post as a bearing surface like the Mafacs do. > > > > Angus > > > > On Mar 8, 10:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > > > > > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > > > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squealpads worked for a while but > > > they wore down remarkably fast. > > > > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > > > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > > > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > > > pads, I took them out and found: > > > > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > > > 2. they don'tsqueal. > > > > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > > > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > > > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > > > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > > > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
I had squealing with BR550s on an Indy Fab Planet X. Finally solved with massive toe OUT. Toe in didn't do squat. Have Tektro 720s on my Hillborne. Using a fork crown mounted Tektro cable hanger, no squeal, without any toe in. Switched to a regular headset mounted cable hanger, instant squeal, even after adjust toe in a couple of times to pretty extreme levels. Switched pads to VO no squeal, squeal gone. We'll see how long they last. The hanger I am talking about is item CAH59 on http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/cable-hardware-brake.html The Tektro fork crown mounted cable hanger is a god-send, but I had to give it up because I installed a Nitto front rack AND fenders, and the bolt on the rack is not quite long enough to accommodate everything. Briefly thought of attaching the front fender L-bracket inside the fork crown to shorten the stack, but that seemed overly fiddly. If the VO pads wear too fast, perhaps I will resort to this option after all. Gernot On Mar 10, 7:37 am, Angus wrote: > Seth, > > I have a set of Mafacs and have the same experience as you...nosqueal. > > I have a set of Mafac copies (similar geometry) and they squealed and > vibrated, a toe in adjustment (wrench) and they merely vibrated. > > They were quite loose on the cantilever post, the Mafacs are > noticeably tighter. I don't have Pauls, but the look like they may > not use the cantilever post as a bearing surface like the Mafacs do. > > Angus > > On Mar 8, 10:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squealpads worked for a while but > > they wore down remarkably fast. > > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > > pads, I took them out and found: > > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > > 2. they don'tsqueal. > > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
Seth, I have a set of Mafacs and have the same experience as you...no squeal. I have a set of Mafac copies (similar geometry) and they squealed and vibrated, a toe in adjustment (wrench) and they merely vibrated. They were quite loose on the cantilever post, the Mafacs are noticeably tighter. I don't have Pauls, but the look like they may not use the cantilever post as a bearing surface like the Mafacs do. Angus On Mar 8, 10:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squeal pads worked for a while but > they wore down remarkably fast. > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > pads, I took them out and found: > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > 2. they don't squeal. > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
Back when I had an Atlantis, it had Paul Touring front and rear. They'd squeal, adjust toe in, no squeal. You do have to adjust to the toe in as the pads wear. I toss the cheesy hangers they come with a get some Mafac hangers from a 1st class LBS, adds a little humor. The Cafams are cheaper and look it and feel it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
yes, all brakes need to be set up correctly to minimize squeal. Somtimes the fork design can be a factor, but the Rivendell bikes have pretty beefy forks so that should not be an issue. I also have had good luck with the Tektro CR720's. On Mar 9, 5:31 am, "Scott G." wrote: > Back when I had an Atlantis, it had Paul Touring front and rear. > They'd squeal, adjust toe in, no squeal. > You do have to adjust to the toe in as the pads wear. > I toss the cheesy hangers they come with a get some Mafac > hangers from a 1st class LBS, adds a little humor. > The Cafams are cheaper and look it and feel it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brakes on the atlantis
I started with the Paul Touring canti's on my Hillborne. No squealing right out of the box and they stop very well. Can't say that about the Avids on my Soma.. always playing with the front. You should also consider IRD Cafam. Very similar to the Paul neo-retros at a lower price point... but not MUSA. ~Mike~ On Mar 8, 8:40 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > So, since forever I've had squealing front brake problems with the > shimano br550 cantis. The VO no-squeal pads worked for a while but > they wore down remarkably fast. > > So this weekend I decided to bite the bullet and I took out an old > pair of mafac tandem cantis that I had from an old gitane tandem. > > After cursing at having to use a crescent wrench and lining up the > pads, I took them out and found: > > 1. they stop better than the shimanos > 2. they don't squeal. > > Here's my question - the paul neo-retros are based directly on the > mafacs, can I expect similar excellence from them? > > b/c right now - the price of the paul's is NOTHING compared to the > months of being annoyed at my squealing front brakes. > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
