[RBW] Re: cassette advice?

2022-12-29 Thread Michael Hammer
I have had two bikes with a bailout gear setup.  A freewheel with a 24 to 
32 jump with a 7 speed LX mountain derailer and friction shifting and a 7 
speed homebrew cassette also with a 24-32 jump with a 7 speed Ultegra road 
derailer (6400 series) that shifts fine in index mode.  

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 7:37:27 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:

> I use the MegaRange freewheel (NOT a cassette) with an Altus RD and 7 
> speed index twist shifter. Works fine, but I really don't shift to the 34 
> that much. If you are trying to make a MegaRange out of a cassette, there 
> are considerations, like most cassettes have multiple inner gears on a 
> spider that cannot be separated without machining. You could remove a 
> middle sprocket and add a large inner sprocket, but it is best if it is 
> intended for the big jump. If you look at the MegaRange 34T sprocket, it 
> has ramps down to a smaller diameter that a normal 34T sprocket. The 
> individual large inner sprockets used to be more available, but are now 
> harder to find due to the wide range cassettes being more available. The 
> Crust and Analog websites used to have articles on making your own cassette 
> combinations. Analog talked about Turkey Vulture gearing and Crust's "THE 
> STUBBY CASSETTE" related to the Scapegoat and using 11 speed cassettes to 
> make narrow 7 speed cassettes (spacers used to fill the space closest to 
> the spokes) that would clear fat tires on the non-offset 135 spacing frame 
> without going crazy wide on crank Q-factor.
>
> But I agree that when mixing and matching, friction makes things easier. 
> Still going to try the Nexave rapid rise RD-600 with indexing on the 
> MegaRange, before I go friction.
>
> [image: megarange2.JPG]
>
>
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:57:01 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Hello Adam,
>>
>> My experience with the Megarange freewheels has been that they are 
>> difficult to setup with index shifters, friction is OK. 
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:23:42 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:
>>
>>> Also, does the "megarange" setup shift well? I can imagine that being 
>>> perfect for my situation. I could swap the 27 for a 32.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:16:47 PM UTC-6 Adam wrote:
>>>
 Thanks all,

 I appreciate the thoughts. I agree with the 48x11 being minimally 
 useful. I have found it only useful for standing and "sprinting" sometimes 
 on long flat rides.

 Going to try building a 12-27 and see where that gets me.
 On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-6 Drew Saunders 
 wrote:

> How much do you use the 48x11? It’s a pretty high gear, but you may 
> prefer a lower cadence than many others. If so, I’ll be the contrarian 
> and 
> suggest an 11-23 9 speed. I currently use a 24-36-46 with an 11-23 9 
> speed 
> on my Riv in hilly Silicon Valley, and spend a lot of time in the middle 
> ring. I’m gathering parts to convert to 2x11 soon as a rainy winter 
> project.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm thinking about changing up the cassette on my Hillborne this 
>> winter. I'm currently running an 11-32 (9sp) with 48/36/26 in front.
>>
>> I've moved to the midwest, and now the closest thing I see to a hill 
>> is a freeway overpass. I'd like to try a more compact cassette, thinking 
>> something like a 13-28. I somehow have only ridden wide range cassettes, 
>> so 
>> this is new territory to me. Any advice on this swap?
>>
>> I also realize the triple front is superfluous, but don't want to 
>> swap it unnecessarily, the cassette is getting old, cranks seem fine.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Adam - just back from a ride through Chicago snow.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: cassette advice?

2022-12-29 Thread JohnS
Hello Adam,

My experience with the Megarange freewheels has been that they are 
difficult to setup with index shifters, friction is OK. 

JohnS

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:23:42 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:

> Also, does the "megarange" setup shift well? I can imagine that being 
> perfect for my situation. I could swap the 27 for a 32.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:16:47 PM UTC-6 Adam wrote:
>
>> Thanks all,
>>
>> I appreciate the thoughts. I agree with the 48x11 being minimally useful. 
>> I have found it only useful for standing and "sprinting" sometimes on long 
>> flat rides.
>>
>> Going to try building a 12-27 and see where that gets me.
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-6 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>
>>> How much do you use the 48x11? It’s a pretty high gear, but you may 
>>> prefer a lower cadence than many others. If so, I’ll be the contrarian and 
>>> suggest an 11-23 9 speed. I currently use a 24-36-46 with an 11-23 9 speed 
>>> on my Riv in hilly Silicon Valley, and spend a lot of time in the middle 
>>> ring. I’m gathering parts to convert to 2x11 soon as a rainy winter project.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I'm thinking about changing up the cassette on my Hillborne this 
 winter. I'm currently running an 11-32 (9sp) with 48/36/26 in front.

 I've moved to the midwest, and now the closest thing I see to a hill is 
 a freeway overpass. I'd like to try a more compact cassette, thinking 
 something like a 13-28. I somehow have only ridden wide range cassettes, 
 so 
 this is new territory to me. Any advice on this swap?

 I also realize the triple front is superfluous, but don't want to swap 
 it unnecessarily, the cassette is getting old, cranks seem fine.

 Thanks!

 Adam - just back from a ride through Chicago snow.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: cassette advice?

2022-12-28 Thread Adam
Also, does the "megarange" setup shift well? I can imagine that being 
perfect for my situation. I could swap the 27 for a 32.

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:16:47 PM UTC-6 Adam wrote:

> Thanks all,
>
> I appreciate the thoughts. I agree with the 48x11 being minimally useful. 
> I have found it only useful for standing and "sprinting" sometimes on long 
> flat rides.
>
> Going to try building a 12-27 and see where that gets me.
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-6 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> How much do you use the 48x11? It’s a pretty high gear, but you may 
>> prefer a lower cadence than many others. If so, I’ll be the contrarian and 
>> suggest an 11-23 9 speed. I currently use a 24-36-46 with an 11-23 9 speed 
>> on my Riv in hilly Silicon Valley, and spend a lot of time in the middle 
>> ring. I’m gathering parts to convert to 2x11 soon as a rainy winter project.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about changing up the cassette on my Hillborne this winter. 
>>> I'm currently running an 11-32 (9sp) with 48/36/26 in front.
>>>
>>> I've moved to the midwest, and now the closest thing I see to a hill is 
>>> a freeway overpass. I'd like to try a more compact cassette, thinking 
>>> something like a 13-28. I somehow have only ridden wide range cassettes, so 
>>> this is new territory to me. Any advice on this swap?
>>>
>>> I also realize the triple front is superfluous, but don't want to swap 
>>> it unnecessarily, the cassette is getting old, cranks seem fine.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Adam - just back from a ride through Chicago snow.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: cassette advice?

2022-12-28 Thread Adam
Thanks all,

I appreciate the thoughts. I agree with the 48x11 being minimally useful. I 
have found it only useful for standing and "sprinting" sometimes on long 
flat rides.

Going to try building a 12-27 and see where that gets me.
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-6 Drew Saunders wrote:

> How much do you use the 48x11? It’s a pretty high gear, but you may prefer 
> a lower cadence than many others. If so, I’ll be the contrarian and suggest 
> an 11-23 9 speed. I currently use a 24-36-46 with an 11-23 9 speed on my 
> Riv in hilly Silicon Valley, and spend a lot of time in the middle ring. 
> I’m gathering parts to convert to 2x11 soon as a rainy winter project.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm thinking about changing up the cassette on my Hillborne this winter. 
>> I'm currently running an 11-32 (9sp) with 48/36/26 in front.
>>
>> I've moved to the midwest, and now the closest thing I see to a hill is a 
>> freeway overpass. I'd like to try a more compact cassette, thinking 
>> something like a 13-28. I somehow have only ridden wide range cassettes, so 
>> this is new territory to me. Any advice on this swap?
>>
>> I also realize the triple front is superfluous, but don't want to swap it 
>> unnecessarily, the cassette is getting old, cranks seem fine.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Adam - just back from a ride through Chicago snow.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: cassette advice?

2022-12-28 Thread Drew Saunders
How much do you use the 48x11? It’s a pretty high gear, but you may prefer 
a lower cadence than many others. If so, I’ll be the contrarian and suggest 
an 11-23 9 speed. I currently use a 24-36-46 with an 11-23 9 speed on my 
Riv in hilly Silicon Valley, and spend a lot of time in the middle ring. 
I’m gathering parts to convert to 2x11 soon as a rainy winter project.

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm thinking about changing up the cassette on my Hillborne this winter. 
> I'm currently running an 11-32 (9sp) with 48/36/26 in front.
>
> I've moved to the midwest, and now the closest thing I see to a hill is a 
> freeway overpass. I'd like to try a more compact cassette, thinking 
> something like a 13-28. I somehow have only ridden wide range cassettes, so 
> this is new territory to me. Any advice on this swap?
>
> I also realize the triple front is superfluous, but don't want to swap it 
> unnecessarily, the cassette is getting old, cranks seem fine.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Adam - just back from a ride through Chicago snow.
>

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[RBW] Re: cassette advice?

2022-12-27 Thread iamkeith
My only advice is to run your proposed chainrings and sprockets combination 
through Sheldon's gear calculator or something similar, to make sure you 
don't have a bunch of redundant gear combinations.  To me, the only reason 
for having a close-ratio cassette is to be able to have more incremental 
cadence options.  When you have a complete, mainstream, racer wannabe 
component group  this is usually worked out.But sometimes the more 
versatile chainring setups like yours (and mine) end up yielding too many 
combos that are almost identical.  At that point, you don't really gain 
anything by going with smaller cogs.

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 10:45:56 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm thinking about changing up the cassette on my Hillborne this winter. 
> I'm currently running an 11-32 (9sp) with 48/36/26 in front.
>
> I've moved to the midwest, and now the closest thing I see to a hill is a 
> freeway overpass. I'd like to try a more compact cassette, thinking 
> something like a 13-28. I somehow have only ridden wide range cassettes, so 
> this is new territory to me. Any advice on this swap?
>
> I also realize the triple front is superfluous, but don't want to swap it 
> unnecessarily, the cassette is getting old, cranks seem fine.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Adam - just back from a ride through Chicago snow.
>

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