[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?
Update for me as well. Called Riv and confirmed that it would not be uncommon for a 62 Sam with a 48/34 big big to result in a new chain being a tad short. I added a link or two and connected it all with two quick links. Guys at Riv said they have done the same on their own bikes without issue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?
update: Yesterday the chain broke where I had connected it; so, from now on I will be using a quicklink to connect chains. Thanks you for this thread... Ken P., Alexandria, Va. On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 7:32:13 PM UTC-5, KenP wrote: > > I put 125 links on my Appaloosa 9 speed chain; put a 52 ring in the front > and 34 big ring on the back. Works, but it's tight if I run big/big. > Bike shop says if I put too many links, the derailleur will be too loose > and will scrape the chain. I used a chain tool, to piece together the > chain and pushed the pin back and forth a few times to be sure the link > would swivel freely. It's using only one master link. Works fine. Ken P. > > On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 8:41:12 AM UTC-5, Tim Bantham wrote: >> >> I am in the process of building up my Sam and I ran into a frustrating >> snag with a brand new chain. Using the Sheldon Browne method for sizing a >> chain I put the chain on big/big without the rear der. and found that the >> chain was one or two links short. The gearing is 48 front and 34 on the >> rear cassette. I was surprised (and frustrated that a brand new KMC x9 >> chain out of the box is too short. I had to add links for my Appaloosa >> which of course has the super long chainstay but I didn't think it would be >> needed on the Sam. I can add a link or two and then join the extra links by >> implementing two quicklinks instead of just one. To me it doesn't seam like >> it's correct to have two quick links with only one or two links between >> them. Has anyone else encountered a chain that was two short out of the >> box on a Sam or other Riv with a fairly typical chain stay length? Does it >> create a weakness in the chain if I have two quick links so close to each >> other? >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?
I put 125 links on my Appaloosa 9 speed chain; put a 52 ring in the front and 34 big ring on the back. Works, but it's tight if I run big/big. Bike shop says if I put too many links, the derailleur will be too loose and will scrape the chain. I used a chain tool, to piece together the chain and pushed the pin back and forth a few times to be sure the link would swivel freely. It's using only one master link. Works fine. Ken P. On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 8:41:12 AM UTC-5, Tim Bantham wrote: > > I am in the process of building up my Sam and I ran into a frustrating > snag with a brand new chain. Using the Sheldon Browne method for sizing a > chain I put the chain on big/big without the rear der. and found that the > chain was one or two links short. The gearing is 48 front and 34 on the > rear cassette. I was surprised (and frustrated that a brand new KMC x9 > chain out of the box is too short. I had to add links for my Appaloosa > which of course has the super long chainstay but I didn't think it would be > needed on the Sam. I can add a link or two and then join the extra links by > implementing two quicklinks instead of just one. To me it doesn't seam like > it's correct to have two quick links with only one or two links between > them. Has anyone else encountered a chain that was two short out of the > box on a Sam or other Riv with a fairly typical chain stay length? Does it > create a weakness in the chain if I have two quick links so close to each > other? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?
Lot's of chains come with 114 links. KMC chains appear to all come in 116 link length. Do you happen to know how long your KMC chain is? Is is 57" long or 58" long? Or shorter? Maybe your chain is accidentally short? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 5:41:12 AM UTC-8, Tim Bantham wrote: > > I am in the process of building up my Sam and I ran into a frustrating > snag with a brand new chain. Using the Sheldon Browne method for sizing a > chain I put the chain on big/big without the rear der. and found that the > chain was one or two links short. The gearing is 48 front and 34 on the > rear cassette. I was surprised (and frustrated that a brand new KMC x9 > chain out of the box is too short. I had to add links for my Appaloosa > which of course has the super long chainstay but I didn't think it would be > needed on the Sam. I can add a link or two and then join the extra links by > implementing two quicklinks instead of just one. To me it doesn't seam like > it's correct to have two quick links with only one or two links between > them. Has anyone else encountered a chain that was two short out of the > box on a Sam or other Riv with a fairly typical chain stay length? Does it > create a weakness in the chain if I have two quick links so close to each > other? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?
Hi Tim: My Sam has a 43 big ring, 28 tooth rear cog and I've ended up with four or five extra links when installing a chain. Like Jim, I've used two quick links on a Clem and the chain was trouble free. Hope you enjoy your Sam. Best, Richard On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 8:41:12 AM UTC-5, Tim Bantham wrote: > > I am in the process of building up my Sam and I ran into a frustrating > snag with a brand new chain. Using the Sheldon Browne method for sizing a > chain I put the chain on big/big without the rear der. and found that the > chain was one or two links short. The gearing is 48 front and 34 on the > rear cassette. I was surprised (and frustrated that a brand new KMC x9 > chain out of the box is too short. I had to add links for my Appaloosa > which of course has the super long chainstay but I didn't think it would be > needed on the Sam. I can add a link or two and then join the extra links by > implementing two quicklinks instead of just one. To me it doesn't seam like > it's correct to have two quick links with only one or two links between > them. Has anyone else encountered a chain that was two short out of the > box on a Sam or other Riv with a fairly typical chain stay length? Does it > create a weakness in the chain if I have two quick links so close to each > other? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?
I have used two quick links that close to salvage a broken chain. Disn't have any problems. Jim (in COLD Madison WI) On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 7:41:12 AM UTC-6, Tim Bantham wrote: > > I am in the process of building up my Sam and I ran into a frustrating > snag with a brand new chain. Using the Sheldon Browne method for sizing a > chain I put the chain on big/big without the rear der. and found that the > chain was one or two links short. The gearing is 48 front and 34 on the > rear cassette. I was surprised (and frustrated that a brand new KMC x9 > chain out of the box is too short. I had to add links for my Appaloosa > which of course has the super long chainstay but I didn't think it would be > needed on the Sam. I can add a link or two and then join the extra links by > implementing two quicklinks instead of just one. To me it doesn't seam like > it's correct to have two quick links with only one or two links between > them. Has anyone else encountered a chain that was two short out of the > box on a Sam or other Riv with a fairly typical chain stay length? Does it > create a weakness in the chain if I have two quick links so close to each > other? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?
Not surprising, the 48 chainring, 34 rear cog, and Rivendell chainstay length are all on the edge of normal these days. You have run into tolerance stack - too many tolerances going one way and you end up out of overall tolerance - in this case; standard chain length. I bought an extra SS 9 speed Wipperman chain just to rob links out of for my various Rivendells. I even commit the sin of using my pin tool to join the extra links by pressing the pin so I have only one quick link. Laing Cocoa FL On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 8:41:12 AM UTC-5, Tim Bantham wrote: > I am in the process of building up my Sam and I ran into a frustrating > snag with a brand new chain. Using the Sheldon Browne method for sizing a > chain I put the chain on big/big without the rear der. and found that the > chain was one or two links short. The gearing is 48 front and 34 on the > rear cassette. I was surprised (and frustrated that a brand new KMC x9 > chain out of the box is too short. I had to add links for my Appaloosa > which of course has the super long chainstay but I didn't think it would be > needed on the Sam. I can add a link or two and then join the extra links by > implementing two quicklinks instead of just one. To me it doesn't seam like > it's correct to have two quick links with only one or two links between > them. Has anyone else encountered a chain that was two short out of the > box on a Sam or other Riv with a fairly typical chain stay length? Does it > create a weakness in the chain if I have two quick links so close to each > other? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: new chain
Yeah . . . . what's been said. . . just wipe it down after each ride. I'm at a point where I don't want to do chain maintenance at all, other than replace them or wipe them . It just seems, well, archaic. We're in the year 2014 and we're still resorting to soaking chains in toxic shmoxic stuff just to get them clean , so we can do it all over again ! Comical at best ! I see ebikestop you can get 25 KMC x8.93 chains for $175.45 shipped. $7 a chain ! Why bother with cleaning at all, just ride it and toss it. When I think of all the time and money spent on lubes, cleaners and cleaning . . . wow . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: new chain
Garth: I really over paid at $14.95 a chain! I got three at that price. Plan to change them out every 1000 miles. Now that I have the super-nice Rene Herse crankset and also very nice SRAM 9-speed cassette. Not sure which model but it has a solid red sleeve for the six largest cogs. Really quiet and solid. I really want the teeth on these two items to last as long as possible! What I have done for the longest time is use wd40 on my chain before every ride. A good soaking and a good wipe. This has worked well. Almost too well as my chains last so long without any big problems that I haven't really paid attention to wear as much as I should. You should see the teeth on my old Apex crank. The teeth are all worn down to points! Well, I rode the new chain 50+ miles this morning on only the factory lube. I guess I will do the same for as long as I can take it. Then I will go back to my tried and true wd40 method. -Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: new chain
Bill, The main problem people have with their chains is that they wear, and if you use them when too worn they ruin your chainrings and cogs. Sounds like you have had this problem. The chain doesn't need to be clean so much as it needs to be lubricated. It is also better if you don't wash grit from the surface of the chain into the rollers when you apply additional lubricant. Applying a penetrating agent like WD40 to a dirty chain without doing a complete soak and clean is liable to do just that. If you just leave the chain alone, you will probably get several hundred miles before you need to do anything with it. Telltale squeaking is the sign that a chain needs attention, not exterior dirt. A good chain lube will give hundreds of miles between applications. If you need to apply fresh lubricant before every ride to keep your chain quiet, the lube you are using is probably not well suited to the task. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:11:47 AM UTC-7, William R. wrote: Garth: I really over paid at $14.95 a chain! I got three at that price. Plan to change them out every 1000 miles. Now that I have the super-nice Rene Herse crankset and also very nice SRAM 9-speed cassette. Not sure which model but it has a solid red sleeve for the six largest cogs. Really quiet and solid. I really want the teeth on these two items to last as long as possible! What I have done for the longest time is use wd40 on my chain before every ride. A good soaking and a good wipe. This has worked well. Almost too well as my chains last so long without any big problems that I haven't really paid attention to wear as much as I should. You should see the teeth on my old Apex crank. The teeth are all worn down to points! Well, I rode the new chain 50+ miles this morning on only the factory lube. I guess I will do the same for as long as I can take it. Then I will go back to my tried and true wd40 method. -Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: new chain
Thanks Ted. Now I'm going to open the can of worms! What do all of you out there consider to be good chain lubes? I have used White Lightning (didn't like it), Tri-Flow (like it, have some, is this a good one?), T9 (have some, not my favorite, seems to attract dirt more than the others) -Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: new chain
These are 9 speed chains? If so, does anyone know if these KMC chains shift and track as well as SRAM chains? I use the relatively cheap ~$20 SRAM 9 sp model. It has been a long time, but I seem to remember that KMC chains I used for fixed were more noisy than SRAMs., but then these were probably cheap 7 speed or even 1/8 models. Moving along: I seem to find that the $20 SRAM 9 sp chain on the Fargo's home-built 13-27 9 sp cassette tracks better on the cogs -- less need for precision in moving to an adjacent cog, and once the chain gets there, less tendency to rattle on one of the adjacent cogs -- ie, less need for trimming; this in comparison to the also home-built 9 sp 16-26 cassette on the Ram -- running a similar if not identical chain. Or perhaps this is the shift levers: Silver (bar end) versus Retrofriction (dt). On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah . . . . what's been said. . . just wipe it down after each ride. I'm at a point where I don't want to do chain maintenance at all, other than replace them or wipe them . It just seems, well, archaic. We're in the year 2014 and we're still resorting to soaking chains in toxic shmoxic stuff just to get them clean , so we can do it all over again ! Comical at best ! I see ebikestop you can get 25 KMC x8.93 chains for $175.45 shipped. $7 a chain ! Why bother with cleaning at all, just ride it and toss it. When I think of all the time and money spent on lubes, cleaners and cleaning . . . wow . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: new chain
A recent thread on this list discussed the virtues of chain saw oil; one virtue being the low cost. The thread discussed the dirtiness of chains so lubed, with someone commenting that you can prevent the adherence of grit if you wipe the chain very thoroughly after careful application. I plan to look for some when I next go to True Value. My question (since at 2K miles all my chains are invariably almost worn out) is whether high torque pedaling, as when you climb on a fixed gear, wears chains more quickly than light torque spinning. I like to climb standing. On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:41 AM, William R. wroma...@optonline.net wrote: Thanks Ted. Now I'm going to open the can of worms! What do all of you out there consider to be good chain lubes? I have used White Lightning (didn't like it), Tri-Flow (like it, have some, is this a good one?), T9 (have some, not my favorite, seems to attract dirt more than the others) -Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: new chain
Patrick, from what I have read about KMC chains online, in reviews and such, is that they work as well and better than Sram chains. I too have used nothing but Sram and before that Sedis, but KMC these days is a very good if not better option. Here's the links for the bulk chains, it appears there is a $3 charge for being oversized shipping, if Fed Ground is chosen that is. Still, a great idea ! 8 speed http://www.ebikestop.com/kmc_bulk_x893_silver_116l_box25-CH4133.php?PARTNER=GOOGPSgclid=CjgKEAjw8r6dBRDZprbmndPi90sSJAB2U6dRViiUQ7IddlfqIRFfaum8oP3h4mfrscpJ22JRL7_vVPD_BwE 9 speed http://www.ebikestop.com/kmc_bulk_x993_silver_116l_box25-CH4132.php?PARTNER=GOOGPSgclid=CjgKEAjw8r6dBRDZprbmndPi90sSJAB2U6dRe5hAXLud3-OCzQrGnZHqC9kDAX8W8ly6kmsUR7s1r_D_BwE The 9 speed is still less that $10 a chain ! WoW :) I now wonder if it's not better to INVEST in chains, and forget about cleaning altogether. Just ride the factory stuff and see how long it goes. I have so many odd lubes around I could just use them if I needed some more lube. But if I got say, 1000k or a little more out a chain and tossed it, really @7 bucks for the 8 speed chains I can't really argue with that. The thing is, oil attracts dirt and there is no changing that. I myself have had it with cleaning chains, even new ones to put wax lubes on. I don't want chemicals of any kind anymore. Even oil/grease is not really clean, but I can certainly minimize my life with it by just using what's on the chain and let it be :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: new chain
Many thanks, Garth. I'll consider this purchase very carefully $10.16 per chain -- not too shabby. I'm asking my brother if he wants to go halves. Ryan Watson? On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, from what I have read about KMC chains online, in reviews and such, is that they work as well and better than Sram chains. I too have used nothing but Sram and before that Sedis, but KMC these days is a very good if not better option. Here's the links for the bulk chains, it appears there is a $3 charge for being oversized shipping, if Fed Ground is chosen that is. Still, a great idea ! 8 speed http://www.ebikestop.com/kmc_bulk_x893_silver_116l_box25-CH4133.php?PARTNER=GOOGPSgclid=CjgKEAjw8r6dBRDZprbmndPi90sSJAB2U6dRViiUQ7IddlfqIRFfaum8oP3h4mfrscpJ22JRL7_vVPD_BwE 9 speed http://www.ebikestop.com/kmc_bulk_x993_silver_116l_box25-CH4132.php?PARTNER=GOOGPSgclid=CjgKEAjw8r6dBRDZprbmndPi90sSJAB2U6dRe5hAXLud3-OCzQrGnZHqC9kDAX8W8ly6kmsUR7s1r_D_BwE The 9 speed is still less that $10 a chain ! WoW :) I now wonder if it's not better to INVEST in chains, and forget about cleaning altogether. Just ride the factory stuff and see how long it goes. I have so many odd lubes around I could just use them if I needed some more lube. But if I got say, 1000k or a little more out a chain and tossed it, really @7 bucks for the 8 speed chains I can't really argue with that. The thing is, oil attracts dirt and there is no changing that. I myself have had it with cleaning chains, even new ones to put wax lubes on. I don't want chemicals of any kind anymore. Even oil/grease is not really clean, but I can certainly minimize my life with it by just using what's on the chain and let it be :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: new chain
Thanks Patrick. Chain saw oil. I have some. When I do put something on this new chain maybe I will try that first. And wipe it very well. Only one ride on this KMC chain. It feels very nice. Shifts cleanly. I notice no difference compared to the SRAM chains I've been using except this has that nice new chain feel to it. :-) -Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: new chain
No idea. I always take off the factory lube and start fresh with my fancy schmancy polymer lube. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:57:37 AM UTC-6, William R. wrote: Just installed a new chain (kmc 9 speed) on my Soma Grand Randonneur (Riv content: noodles, nitto stem, brooks saddle, velocity/atlas wheels, brand v bag, newbaums, brakes all from Riv!). My question is that I want to try to run the chain with only the factory lube. It's been said here that the chain holds up well this way. But as time goes by and the miles add up, how do I maintain the chain and keep it clean? Thanks for any tips and tricks anyone can give for this. -Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: new chain
I dampen (not soak) a rag with preferred solvent and wipe the factory goop off the exterior of the chain first. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
I tried looking at the cog but I can't tell much. I'm not very mechanical. I'll look at the chainring too. It wasn't knocked out of adjustment because I watched him install it. I checked the master link. It looks ok. It may be the derailleur but I have friction shifters so I wouldn't think it was that. I'm not going to make any adjustments. I'll take it back to the LBS to check. It's not very often - just twice in 14 miles yesterday. And it is in the smallest cog on the cassette in the largest chain ring. That's where I do most of my riding - probably 70% of the time. On Apr 16, 11:32 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Only skipping in smallest cog makes me think it is a deraileur adjustment, maybe they knocked it out of whack a bit on the install. Did you try adjusting the tension back there? I dont know your level of expertise but if you havent done this kind of thing before just remember to go slow and make small adjustments or else you will have it back at the LBS paying them to do it. The late great Sheldon Brown has a few articles on the net about it. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM, pam pamelamurra...@gmail.com wrote: More detail - the chain and cassette were new last May from Rivendell. I've ridden about 2700 miles and I just learned about keeping the chain clean so I understood I needed a new chain. The new chain does have a master link. If the cassette is worn, do I replace the whole thing? I've only noticed the skipping in the smallest cog. Can the cog just be replaced or the whole thing? I'll look at the cog and try to see. On Apr 15, 8:39 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn. You'll know if the teeth end in sharp points like a shark fin. Matt On Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, pam wrote: I just got a new chain after LBS told me the old one was worn out. The new one occasionally skips. The old one never did. What's the problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
I mean this in the nicest possible way, but unless I'm misunderstanding something terribly, there's no way you should be spending 70% of your time riding in your highest gear. It makes my knees hurt just thinking about it. You should be trying to ride in approximately the 90-100RPM range. Spinners might tell you higher. Mashers might tell you lower. 90-100 is a good medium. If I was riding in my highest gear at 90RPM, I'd be going 30MPH. I use my highest gear much less than 1% of the time. Completely separate from drivetrain wear, I recommend you get some advice on that front. Focussing on drivetrain wear, if you ride 2700 miles on a single 12 or 11 tooth cog, it's probably worn out. Replace. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:59:56 AM UTC-7, pam wrote: I tried looking at the cog but I can't tell much. I'm not very mechanical. I'll look at the chainring too. It wasn't knocked out of adjustment because I watched him install it. I checked the master link. It looks ok. It may be the derailleur but I have friction shifters so I wouldn't think it was that. I'm not going to make any adjustments. I'll take it back to the LBS to check. It's not very often - just twice in 14 miles yesterday. And it is in the smallest cog on the cassette in the largest chain ring. That's where I do most of my riding - probably 70% of the time. On Apr 16, 11:32 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Only skipping in smallest cog makes me think it is a deraileur adjustment, maybe they knocked it out of whack a bit on the install. Did you try adjusting the tension back there? I dont know your level of expertise but if you havent done this kind of thing before just remember to go slow and make small adjustments or else you will have it back at the LBS paying them to do it. The late great Sheldon Brown has a few articles on the net about it. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM, pam pamelamurra...@gmail.com wrote: More detail - the chain and cassette were new last May from Rivendell. I've ridden about 2700 miles and I just learned about keeping the chain clean so I understood I needed a new chain. The new chain does have a master link. If the cassette is worn, do I replace the whole thing? I've only noticed the skipping in the smallest cog. Can the cog just be replaced or the whole thing? I'll look at the cog and try to see. On Apr 15, 8:39 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn.You'll know if the teeth end in sharp points like a shark fin. Matt On Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, pam wrote: I just got a new chain after LBS told me the old one was worn out. The new one occasionally skips. The old one never did. What's the problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/omtfxlaKv0cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:33 -0700, William wrote: I mean this in the nicest possible way, but unless I'm misunderstanding something terribly, there's no way you should be spending 70% of your time riding in your highest gear. It makes my knees hurt just thinking about it. He said 70% of his time in the big ring, not in his highest gear. If your big ring is geared low enough, for example a 46 or 48T, you might not have to shift to a smaller chain ring until you need a gear lower than 50 inches or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
Ah ha! You ride in this smallest cog most of the time! Take another look but the back side of the teeth on that cog are most likely cupped (increasing slope of the tooth until it becomes an overhang near the top). This is good news as buying a new final cog is easy and much cheaper than a whole cassette. This is also bad news as you are riding in your biggest gear all the time. Something is wrong here. You either need much higher gearing, or more likely, your leg speed is really slow and you need to learn to use your gears more efficently. You want a leg speed of something at or greater to 70 rpm on the flats, 90 rpm is better. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:59:56 AM UTC-6, pam wrote: I tried looking at the cog but I can't tell much. I'm not very mechanical. I'll look at the chainring too. It wasn't knocked out of adjustment because I watched him install it. I checked the master link. It looks ok. It may be the derailleur but I have friction shifters so I wouldn't think it was that. I'm not going to make any adjustments. I'll take it back to the LBS to check. It's not very often - just twice in 14 miles yesterday. And it is in the smallest cog on the cassette in the largest chain ring. That's where I do most of my riding - probably 70% of the time. On Apr 16, 11:32 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Only skipping in smallest cog makes me think it is a deraileur adjustment, maybe they knocked it out of whack a bit on the install. Did you try adjusting the tension back there? I dont know your level of expertise but if you havent done this kind of thing before just remember to go slow and make small adjustments or else you will have it back at the LBS paying them to do it. The late great Sheldon Brown has a few articles on the net about it. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM, pam pamelamurra...@gmail.com wrote: More detail - the chain and cassette were new last May from Rivendell. I've ridden about 2700 miles and I just learned about keeping the chain clean so I understood I needed a new chain. The new chain does have a master link. If the cassette is worn, do I replace the whole thing? I've only noticed the skipping in the smallest cog. Can the cog just be replaced or the whole thing? I'll look at the cog and try to see. On Apr 15, 8:39 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn.You'll know if the teeth end in sharp points like a shark fin. Matt On Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, pam wrote: I just got a new chain after LBS told me the old one was worn out. The new one occasionally skips. The old one never did. What's the problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hCa03hmuMaQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping
And it is in the smallest cog on the cassette in the largest chain ring. That's where I do most of my riding - probably 70% of the time. I must've misread it then. I see that telling me smallest cog on the cassette in the largest chain ringprobably 70% of the time. I agree 70% of the time in the large chainring (mine's a 44) is not controversial. But I use my 44x11 less than 1% of the time. If I used my 44x11 for 2700 miles my knees would be gone, and that 11T cog would be shot. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:59:50 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:33 -0700, William wrote: I mean this in the nicest possible way, but unless I'm misunderstanding something terribly, there's no way you should be spending 70% of your time riding in your highest gear. It makes my knees hurt just thinking about it. He said 70% of his time in the big ring, not in his highest gear. If your big ring is geared low enough, for example a 46 or 48T, you might not have to shift to a smaller chain ring until you need a gear lower than 50 inches or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XZIC0sgF48QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 13:26 -0700, William wrote: I agree 70% of the time in the large chainring (mine's a 44) is not controversial. But I use my 44x11 less than 1% of the time. If I used my 44x11 for 2700 miles my knees would be gone, and that 11T cog would be shot. And I agree with what you just said. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping
...and I agree with you agreeing with me... On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:54:38 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 13:26 -0700, William wrote: I agree 70% of the time in the large chainring (mine's a 44) is not controversial. But I use my 44x11 less than 1% of the time. If I used my 44x11 for 2700 miles my knees would be gone, and that 11T cog would be shot. And I agree with what you just said. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ALIWvzpeqwsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
More detail - the chain and cassette were new last May from Rivendell. I've ridden about 2700 miles and I just learned about keeping the chain clean so I understood I needed a new chain. The new chain does have a master link. If the cassette is worn, do I replace the whole thing? I've only noticed the skipping in the smallest cog. Can the cog just be replaced or the whole thing? I'll look at the cog and try to see. On Apr 15, 8:39 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn. You'll know if the teeth end in sharp points like a shark fin. Matt On Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, pam wrote: I just got a new chain after LBS told me the old one was worn out. The new one occasionally skips. The old one never did. What's the problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping
Only skipping in smallest cog makes me think it is a deraileur adjustment, maybe they knocked it out of whack a bit on the install. Did you try adjusting the tension back there? I dont know your level of expertise but if you havent done this kind of thing before just remember to go slow and make small adjustments or else you will have it back at the LBS paying them to do it. The late great Sheldon Brown has a few articles on the net about it. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM, pam pamelamurra...@gmail.com wrote: More detail - the chain and cassette were new last May from Rivendell. I've ridden about 2700 miles and I just learned about keeping the chain clean so I understood I needed a new chain. The new chain does have a master link. If the cassette is worn, do I replace the whole thing? I've only noticed the skipping in the smallest cog. Can the cog just be replaced or the whole thing? I'll look at the cog and try to see. On Apr 15, 8:39 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn.You'll know if the teeth end in sharp points like a shark fin. Matt On Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, pam wrote: I just got a new chain after LBS told me the old one was worn out. The new one occasionally skips. The old one never did. What's the problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
If it is the smallest cog only, then the stiff link hypothesis has a point in its favor, as the stiff link will be most obvious on the smallest cog, which has the tightest curvature. You can generally buy a small cog for your cassette if it turns out to be worn. Seems unlikely, because most people don't ride many miles on the smallest cog...unless they're also riding in one of the smaller chainrings. This cross-chaining practice prematurely wears cogs, rings, and chains and should be avoided. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/IzfO642LFRAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
Check your chainrings. That was the problem I had, once. Replaced the chain. Replaced the cassette. Finally took it into the shop. Head mechanic: did no one look at your chainrings? Bleriot's chainrings (13500+ mi) are starting to look suspect, but nothing is skipping... yet. Lynne On Apr 16, 9:16 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: If it is the smallest cog only, then the stiff link hypothesis has a point in its favor, as the stiff link will be most obvious on the smallest cog, which has the tightest curvature. You can generally buy a small cog for your cassette if it turns out to be worn. Seems unlikely, because most people don't ride many miles on the smallest cog...unless they're also riding in one of the smaller chainrings. This cross-chaining practice prematurely wears cogs, rings, and chains and should be avoided. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
I needed a small chainring when I did my winter overhaul on the Hilsen. New chain and the hooky teeth wanted to pull it up like precursor to chainsuck. They were pretty sharkfin-ish. On Monday, April 16, 2012 11:48:18 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: Check your chainrings. That was the problem I had, once. Replaced the chain. Replaced the cassette. Finally took it into the shop. Head mechanic: did no one look at your chainrings? Bleriot's chainrings (13500+ mi) are starting to look suspect, but nothing is skipping... yet. Lynne On Apr 16, 9:16 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: If it is the smallest cog only, then the stiff link hypothesis has a point in its favor, as the stiff link will be most obvious on the smallest cog, which has the tightest curvature. You can generally buy a small cog for your cassette if it turns out to be worn. Seems unlikely, because most people don't ride many miles on the smallest cog...unless they're also riding in one of the smaller chainrings. This cross-chaining practice prematurely wears cogs, rings, and chains and should be avoided. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nQ0Q25aq_dcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
Hi Pam, I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn.You'll know if the teeth end in sharp points like a shark fin. Matt On Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, pam wrote: I just got a new chain after LBS told me the old one was worn out. The new one occasionally skips. The old one never did. What's the problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/saol7PpmEBUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping
Maybe a stiff link in the new chain? On Apr 15, 2012 8:39 PM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn.You'll know if the teeth end in sharp points like a shark fin. Matt On Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, pam wrote: I just got a new chain after LBS told me the old one was worn out. The new one occasionally skips. The old one never did. What's the problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/saol7PpmEBUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New chain skipping
I agree. Both of those answers are probably the two most likely suspects. Your old chain and your cassette wore together, and when you put the new chain on, it revealed the wear in the cassette that was hidden before. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping
That would be the answer. Replacing a worn chain resulting in skipping should always make you think worn cassette. If no amount of adjusting dials it in, it's time for a new cassette. I didn't see the original thread here, but if you're using a master link, make sure it's installed properly. If it isn't seated properly, it may be shorter than it should be at that link. If you have a Wipperman link, there's an orientation that you need to worry about. Barring that, new cassette. Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 19:12:06 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping From: tki...@comcast.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I agree. Both of those answers are probably the two most likely suspects. Your old chain and your cassette wore together, and when you put the new chain on, it revealed the wear in the cassette that was hidden before. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
