[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
Some pics of my Sam with center pulls http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE6pq6F -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
quite simply, there ain't nothing past lockup. I've been on my Weinmann center pulls for 38 years in the TX hills, and my Rigida rims against them for 35. While I have a spare wheelset, I don't have to - the original rims are in great shape. With kool stop pads, I can lock them up, but it takes a decided effort. My daughter has Tektro V-brakes and she locks them up all the time. So if you like leaving black marks on the pavement... There is a lot of grass on the internet about flutter in long-reach Tektro sidepulls. I like having the option of the centerpulls. On Friday, February 22, 2013 2:14:45 PM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote: Same stopping power? I wonder if they would increase the clearance of a Ram. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I notice Grant's Atlantis on the staff bike page has V-brakes. I'm not surprised. I run XTs on my trail bike. They are way nicer than the sidepulls on my other bikes. Will On Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:56:08 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: quite simply, there ain't nothing past lockup. I've been on my Weinmann center pulls for 38 years in the TX hills, and my Rigida rims against them for 35. While I have a spare wheelset, I don't have to - the original rims are in great shape. With kool stop pads, I can lock them up, but it takes a decided effort. My daughter has Tektro V-brakes and she locks them up all the time. So if you like leaving black marks on the pavement... There is a lot of grass on the internet about flutter in long-reach Tektro sidepulls. I like having the option of the centerpulls. On Friday, February 22, 2013 2:14:45 PM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote: Same stopping power? I wonder if they would increase the clearance of a Ram. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I don't find the difference in stopping power, only lever feel. The long tektros result on more squish at the lever for me, even though the centerpulls technically have more parts and joints to impart play. I've never had a bike not stop due to brake system choice. But I dont ride in technical or demanding (loaded touring descents down mountain passes) conditions either. So YMMV. The current iteration of my Sam is a pure country bike with alba bars. The tektro sidepulls work fine in that config. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
It is good looking. It's nice to see how much reach those brakes have since I'm using them for a build where max reach will be important. I think it's about 75 mm max. Looks like it's set at minimum reach in front, but closer to middle-reach in back, which is actually consistent with the blue/cream 60 cm Sam I have here. GP has been known to be serious about brake even-ness, but I suppose it's one of those dimensions that can be compromised a little for the greater good. In this case, I doubt it affects anything. Here's an orange one from a couple years ago that seems to be more brake-even. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/4860314027 On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:50 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
People in this thread keep talking about center pulls, then post links to photos with bikes set up with side pulls. What am I missing? - Ryan On Friday, February 22, 2013 10:28:45 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: It is good looking. It's nice to see how much reach those brakes have since I'm using them for a build where max reach will be important. I think it's about 75 mm max. Looks like it's set at minimum reach in front, but closer to middle-reach in back, which is actually consistent with the blue/cream 60 cm Sam I have here. GP has been known to be serious about brake even-ness, but I suppose it's one of those dimensions that can be compromised a little for the greater good. In this case, I doubt it affects anything. Here's an orange one from a couple years ago that seems to be more brake-even. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/4860314027 On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:50 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
the bike with drop bars has side pulls. The bike with albys and a dyno hub has center pull On Friday, February 22, 2013 12:47:57 PM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote: People in this thread keep talking about center pulls, then post links to photos with bikes set up with side pulls. What am I missing? - Ryan On Friday, February 22, 2013 10:28:45 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: It is good looking. It's nice to see how much reach those brakes have since I'm using them for a build where max reach will be important. I think it's about 75 mm max. Looks like it's set at minimum reach in front, but closer to middle-reach in back, which is actually consistent with the blue/cream 60 cm Sam I have here. GP has been known to be serious about brake even-ness, but I suppose it's one of those dimensions that can be compromised a little for the greater good. In this case, I doubt it affects anything. Here's an orange one from a couple years ago that seems to be more brake-even. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/4860314027 On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:50 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
Ron Mc's link shows a bike with Dia-Compe centerpulls. I linked to photos of a bike with sidepulls to compare brake pad position front and rear. Those are the only links I saw. On Friday, February 22, 2013 12:47:57 PM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote: People in this thread keep talking about center pulls, then post links to photos with bikes set up with side pulls. What am I missing? - Ryan On Friday, February 22, 2013 10:28:45 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: It is good looking. It's nice to see how much reach those brakes have since I'm using them for a build where max reach will be important. I think it's about 75 mm max. Looks like it's set at minimum reach in front, but closer to middle-reach in back, which is actually consistent with the blue/cream 60 cm Sam I have here. GP has been known to be serious about brake even-ness, but I suppose it's one of those dimensions that can be compromised a little for the greater good. In this case, I doubt it affects anything. Here's an orange one from a couple years ago that seems to be more brake-even. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/4860314027 On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:50 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I think the OP was on the Staff Bike blue SH: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff17.htm Description from Riv: Bike Of the Month - Well that's the idea at least. Monthly or so one employee whips up a dreamy build with some less-than-usual stuff on it and it becomes a demonstrator bike in the showroom. ADDENDUM: YOU CAN BUY THIS ONE #1 Dave's Pick: Lil' City Sam 48cm Sam Hillborne with Shimano dyno wheel, Schmidt E6 light, Centerpulls, cream longboard fenders, wide range double crank with chainguard, Silver thumbshifters, the Tektro slim levers. I've been reading old RR (got the cork collection for Xmas). RR#30 has an article by Jan Heine on center pull brakes and describes adv/dis with comparisons to sidepulls and cantilevers. (I don't want to step on Grant's or Jan's toes by quoting it here, and I have no experience with them anyway-- so I'll let others chime in.) -- Shoji On Friday, February 22, 2013 1:47:57 PM UTC-5, Ryan Ray wrote: People in this thread keep talking about center pulls, then post links to photos with bikes set up with side pulls. What am I missing? - Ryan On Friday, February 22, 2013 10:28:45 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: It is good looking. It's nice to see how much reach those brakes have since I'm using them for a build where max reach will be important. I think it's about 75 mm max. Looks like it's set at minimum reach in front, but closer to middle-reach in back, which is actually consistent with the blue/cream 60 cm Sam I have here. GP has been known to be serious about brake even-ness, but I suppose it's one of those dimensions that can be compromised a little for the greater good. In this case, I doubt it affects anything. Here's an orange one from a couple years ago that seems to be more brake-even. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/4860314027 On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:50 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I had to zoom in to see them. I see it. http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/ctxtv.wmppt/v/vspfiles/photos/staff17-3.jpg?1360600770 - Ryan On Friday, February 22, 2013 11:04:21 AM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote: I think the OP was on the Staff Bike blue SH: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff17.htm Description from Riv: Bike Of the Month - Well that's the idea at least. Monthly or so one employee whips up a dreamy build with some less-than-usual stuff on it and it becomes a demonstrator bike in the showroom. ADDENDUM: YOU CAN BUY THIS ONE #1 Dave's Pick: Lil' City Sam 48cm Sam Hillborne with Shimano dyno wheel, Schmidt E6 light, Centerpulls, cream longboard fenders, wide range double crank with chainguard, Silver thumbshifters, the Tektro slim levers. I've been reading old RR (got the cork collection for Xmas). RR#30 has an article by Jan Heine on center pull brakes and describes adv/dis with comparisons to sidepulls and cantilevers. (I don't want to step on Grant's or Jan's toes by quoting it here, and I have no experience with them anyway-- so I'll let others chime in.) -- Shoji On Friday, February 22, 2013 1:47:57 PM UTC-5, Ryan Ray wrote: People in this thread keep talking about center pulls, then post links to photos with bikes set up with side pulls. What am I missing? - Ryan On Friday, February 22, 2013 10:28:45 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: It is good looking. It's nice to see how much reach those brakes have since I'm using them for a build where max reach will be important. I think it's about 75 mm max. Looks like it's set at minimum reach in front, but closer to middle-reach in back, which is actually consistent with the blue/cream 60 cm Sam I have here. GP has been known to be serious about brake even-ness, but I suppose it's one of those dimensions that can be compromised a little for the greater good. In this case, I doubt it affects anything. Here's an orange one from a couple years ago that seems to be more brake-even. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/4860314027 On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:50 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I had DC 750 centerpulls on my side-pull Sam for a while. (Pics are around here somewhere. Will post) They worked really well, looked nice (i'm a sucker for symmetry) and cleared a 45mm fender and 35mm Pasela with ease. The rear cable hanger must be improvised, obviously, so I used one of the Nitto ones that Riv sells. Bike has gone through a few iterations since and now has Tektro sidepulls. They both work. I'm currently more fond of the less-hardware look of the sidepulls, but that's just changing tastes. -Pete in CT On Friday, February 22, 2013 1:28:45 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: It is good looking. It's nice to see how much reach those brakes have since I'm using them for a build where max reach will be important. I think it's about 75 mm max. Looks like it's set at minimum reach in front, but closer to middle-reach in back, which is actually consistent with the blue/cream 60 cm Sam I have here. GP has been known to be serious about brake even-ness, but I suppose it's one of those dimensions that can be compromised a little for the greater good. In this case, I doubt it affects anything. Here's an orange one from a couple years ago that seems to be more brake-even. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/4860314027 On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:50 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
Same stopping power? I wonder if they would increase the clearance of a Ram. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I'm guessing those are the Dia Compe. Is that right? Daniel Yorba Linda, CA On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:57:44 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: I like it http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
