Re: [RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
I'm not Phillip but as they all apply to me, I can weigh in on your questions 3. What was your experience like with the dingle (double singlespeed for the archives) setup? I am very curious about this setup option. Works well--I run a double ring/Dingle combo (with a single fixed cog on the flop side). It's easier to shift than flipping the wheel, just loosen the quick release and lift the back end to put some slack in the chain, then move the chain (I usually pick up a stick on the side of the road) to the desired combo. My rings/cogs options total about the same teeth so the wheel doesn't move much when switching. I don't often shift on the go, though--the high gear is my road gear, the low my trail gear. Still, it's nice to have a bailout if the headwind starts to wear me down. How is the sizing on the quickbeam? Long? Tall? Short? Stout? I hope that question makes sense. I have owned both a Saluki and a Rambouillet and they fit a bit different from each other. How did you decide on the size you got? The Quickbeam sizing/geometry was based on the Rambouillet, so that's your closest guide. I ride a 54 Rambly, but my QB is a 52 because I wanted the 650b wheels. It shows a bit more seatpost and stem quill than the Rambly, but fits just fine. Any fender solutions that worked better than others? Is the rear facing track ends easier or more difficult to fender mod than forward facing drop outs? I use SKS fenders on mine, and added a pair of the pop out quick release widgets to the rear. When I want to remove the back wheel, I just pop out the stays-works fine. Here's a pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/6018508908/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Steve On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: Philip, Looking over your flickr photostream I think you are just the person to ask a few questions of. :) What was your experience like with the dingle (double singlespeed for the archives) setup? I am very curious about this setup option. How is the sizing on the quickbeam? Long? Tall? Short? Stout? I hope that question makes sense. I have owned both a Saluki and a Rambouillet and they fit a bit different from each other. How did you decide on the size you got? Any fender solutions that worked better than others? Is the rear facing track ends easier or more difficult to fender mod than forward facing drop outs? Thanks Jason SF,CA On Aug 26, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, yes. Recycling Day. I have ridden fireroads quite a bit with the Quickbeam, and I've been commuting with a saddlebag and a basket. Works great. It's a tough bike I'd ride anywhere. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:19:13 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Cyclotourist's new addition has me thinking again about a singlespeed commute/errand bike (I plan to keep my eye out for one at the right price 56 or 54cm). Right now that role is filled by my fantastic CB0, but it might be a little overbuilt for that role. QB owners: How does the bike handle on paved streets and fireroads with medium front/rear load (something like a nitto rack with panniers and a nitto front rack with a basket?) I I have seen tour reports, etc. but it has been a while. Jason SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
I have my QB set up with the Riv-supplied double up front and a White Industries DOS freewheel in back. I don't use the flip side of the hub at the moment. It's easy to shift, but I don't shift much as my commute can be done in one gear and that's 99% of my riding on the QB. I hang a pannier briefcase off a Tubus rack out back and the bike handles great. I don't use front cargo options much. I have an older set of SKS/Berthoud plastic fenders on the bike now, but agree with other that a pop-off rear fender mount makes life much easier with the horizontal dropout. The QB/SO is a bike with a very unique and versatile spec - wide tires, canti brakes, lugged steel, horizontal-ish dropouts. I'm not surprised a recent frame on Ebay went for good money - I don't think you can get that combo anywhere else without going custom. -Pete in CT On Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:19:13 PM UTC-4, JL wrote: Cyclotourist's new addition has me thinking again about a singlespeed commute/errand bike (I plan to keep my eye out for one at the right price 56 or 54cm). Right now that role is filled by my fantastic CB0, but it might be a little overbuilt for that role. QB owners: How does the bike handle on paved streets and fireroads with medium front/rear load (something like a nitto rack with panniers and a nitto front rack with a basket?) I I have seen tour reports, etc. but it has been a while. Jason SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
This talk makes me want to set up my SimpleOne with more gears... I love my S1 for commuting. I put a Nitto Mini up front with a Carradice Saddlebag on the front. There's a nice minimalist Tubus rack on the back for when I need grocery hauling. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
Ah, yes. Recycling Day. I have ridden fireroads quite a bit with the Quickbeam, and I've been commuting with a saddlebag and a basket. Works great. It's a tough bike I'd ride anywhere. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:19:13 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Cyclotourist's new addition has me thinking again about a singlespeed commute/errand bike (I plan to keep my eye out for one at the right price 56 or 54cm). Right now that role is filled by my fantastic CB0, but it might be a little overbuilt for that role. QB owners: How does the bike handle on paved streets and fireroads with medium front/rear load (something like a nitto rack with panniers and a nitto front rack with a basket?) I I have seen tour reports, etc. but it has been a while. Jason SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
Philip, Looking over your flickr photostream I think you are just the person to ask a few questions of. :) What was your experience like with the dingle (double singlespeed for the archives) setup? I am very curious about this setup option. How is the sizing on the quickbeam? Long? Tall? Short? Stout? I hope that question makes sense. I have owned both a Saluki and a Rambouillet and they fit a bit different from each other. How did you decide on the size you got? Any fender solutions that worked better than others? Is the rear facing track ends easier or more difficult to fender mod than forward facing drop outs? Thanks Jason SF,CA On Aug 26, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, yes. Recycling Day. I have ridden fireroads quite a bit with the Quickbeam, and I've been commuting with a saddlebag and a basket. Works great. It's a tough bike I'd ride anywhere. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:19:13 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Cyclotourist's new addition has me thinking again about a singlespeed commute/errand bike (I plan to keep my eye out for one at the right price 56 or 54cm). Right now that role is filled by my fantastic CB0, but it might be a little overbuilt for that role. QB owners: How does the bike handle on paved streets and fireroads with medium front/rear load (something like a nitto rack with panniers and a nitto front rack with a basket?) I I have seen tour reports, etc. but it has been a while. Jason SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
I have two Quickbeams and love them both. One lives here in Washington... http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrivers/sets/72157631759010530/ And the other in Cape Cod. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrivers/sets/72157618452191962/ Front basket, back basket, upright bars or noodles, I always smile when I ride this bike. I have run them fixed, free, and even rigged a three speed with a front and rear der before I bought my Ram. These are both 60 cm and fit a bit better than my 60 cm Ram. Because they are SS, the BB is higher on the QB. I ride a 61 cm AHH and have a PBH of 87.5 cm. I weigh 200 lbs and like 35-37 mm tires; fenders work well with this frame. Tis is a seriously fun bike! Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
Michael, Your quickbeam gallery's make me want one right now! And I've never even ridden ss/fixed... Seriously, very interesting and stylish builds and excellent photography! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
Hey Jason, Dingle: Awesome incarnate. The only way to fly. I actually got kind of OCD about not moving the axle, since I was using big tires AND fenders. However, the real advantage is that it gives your Quickbeam 12 teeth of chainring difference instead of 8. I had a geared bike with the same overall range as my Quickbeam (it had a single ring and a tight range cassette). So, with a Dingle cog, you could have 6 usable(?) gears, from 42 to 80 inches, based on 32/44 rings, and a flip/flop 15 and 17/21. You'd be in the 44x17 90% of the time, with a 15 second change to the 32x21 42 gear. Long flat road rides with other guys, you could flip to the 44x15, and still have a quick change to a 58 climbing gear in the 32x15. This is predicated on a 38mm tire, which might not actually work with this range. A 32mm tire would almost certainly work, but lower each gear by about an inch. Or so. According to Sheldon's gear calculator. And some hand-waving. If I'd gotten into the Quickbeam's bottom bracket, cranks and rings to set that up, I think it would have worked for the Grin Fundo straight up Mt Diablo and straight down again. The Quickbeam would not have been an impediment to enjoyment. As long as I could re-borrow the Large Saddlesack. Man, that bag is awesome. Size: My saddleheight is 790mm, so my PBH is probably 90cm. Because I wanted to ride the QB offroad with the largest tires that would fit, John suggested the 60cm over the 62cm frame. I have a 63.5cm low-trail Ross touring bike, so I'm comfortable with big bikes, but the Quickbeam is ideal. Fit: I don't have other Rivendell bikes to compare it to, but the bike fits great. I did try three stems and two bars. The stock stem and Noodles were flexier feeling than I like (200# guy riding fixed offroad), and the Dirt Drop stem was too tall, but the old Salsa stem and WTB dirt drop bar combo has been amazingly fantastic. I have a backup silver Midge, and I'm happy with Midge, Woodchipper and Moustache bars on other bikes, but I hope the WTB bar outlasts me, because I never want to change it. Fenders: I've used SKS fenders, and VO Zeppelins. The SKS were easier to deal with, but the Zeppelins looked better. I painted them both to match the bike. The VO fender hardware was crap when I got the fenders about 5 years ago. The stays never seated very solidly into the mounts, which I guess could act as a slip-fit fender quick release if you picked up a stick, but mostly means I need to dick around with the fender after putting it into a car, or leaning it against a wall, or just whenever. Every modification I tried to do to make the fit tighter somehow made it worse. They look dynamite, though. http://www.biketinker.com/2012/fine-bikes/state-of-the-quickbeam-3-3-12/ If I wrote a new state of the Quickbeam post, it would show zero fenders. Track ends: Sheldon was wrong. For fat tires, removing a wheel with fenders mounted is easier with track ends than front-opening dropouts, because fat tires are large, and the crotch of your chainstays gets narrower and narrower the forwarder you go (which is what 'crotch' means). Having quick releases on the rear of my SKS fenders and crap (excuse me, conveniently loose) hardware on my VO fenders probably influences my idea of easier, since I can just pull the fender out of the way to drop the wheel. For the record, this is my only disagreement with anything Sheldon ever wrote. Now I feel inspired to set up a proper two-ring dingle again. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, August 26, 2013 3:04:21 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Philip, Looking over your flickr photostream I think you are just the person to ask a few questions of. :) What was your experience like with the dingle (double singlespeed for the archives) setup? I am very curious about this setup option. How is the sizing on the quickbeam? Long? Tall? Short? Stout? I hope that question makes sense. I have owned both a Saluki and a Rambouillet and they fit a bit different from each other. How did you decide on the size you got? Any fender solutions that worked better than others? Is the rear facing track ends easier or more difficult to fender mod than forward facing drop outs? Thanks Jason SF,CA On Aug 26, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Ah, yes. Recycling Day. I have ridden fireroads quite a bit with the Quickbeam, and I've been commuting with a saddlebag and a basket. Works great. It's a tough bike I'd ride anywhere. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:19:13 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Cyclotourist's new addition has me thinking again about a singlespeed commute/errand bike (I plan to keep my eye out for one at the right price 56 or 54cm). Right now that role is filled by my fantastic CB0, but it might be a little overbuilt for that role. QB owners: How does the bike handle on paved streets and
