Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
I usually push off with my left foot on the pedal and right foot on the ground, swinging my right leg up and over the back, which works well unless there's a kid on the back. That's when I appreciate the low top tube of my Yuba as I have to step through and then pedal off. Best, Eric Indpls, IN On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 4:12:09 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I keep one foot on the ground, swing the other up and over the back. Works fine even with my large SaddleSack. If I've loaded it with tent, sleeping bag, and pad, then I just pop my foot over the top bar. I've done the pedal mount you describe, Jay, but it's more than my vertigo addled brain can handle. The good news for me is that living on the floor greatly and naturally increases flexibility, so it's easy on and off. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
She needs the low top tube. Joint problems. On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 11:50:42 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: What about one of the other Rivs? I agree with you about the Cheviot colors; baby vomit color is not to my taste either, and I don't like orange. Can she fit on a Sam or a Homer? If I were you I'd be looking for a used Betty in good condition. They come on the market from time to time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
The top tube on the Betty Foy ain't *that* low, says this Betty Foy owner with lots of joint problems. On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 4:53:52 AM UTC-8, Michael Flournoy wrote: She needs the low top tube. Joint problems. On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 11:50:42 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: What about one of the other Rivs? I agree with you about the Cheviot colors; baby vomit color is not to my taste either, and I don't like orange. Can she fit on a Sam or a Homer? If I were you I'd be looking for a used Betty in good condition. They come on the market from time to time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
This brings up a related question. Just how do most people get on their bikes? I put my left foot on the pedal and swing my leg over the back, as one does with a horse. I guess with abig saddlebag that could be a problem, but I don't use them. Jay Hartman On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The top tube on the Betty Foy ain't *that* low, says this Betty Foy owner with lots of joint problems. On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 4:53:52 AM UTC-8, Michael Flournoy wrote: She needs the low top tube. Joint problems. On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 11:50:42 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: What about one of the other Rivs? I agree with you about the Cheviot colors; baby vomit color is not to my taste either, and I don't like orange. Can she fit on a Sam or a Homer? If I were you I'd be looking for a used Betty in good condition. They come on the market from time to time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
I keep one foot on the ground, swing the other up and over the back. Works fine even with my large SaddleSack. If I've loaded it with tent, sleeping bag, and pad, then I just pop my foot over the top bar. I've done the pedal mount you describe, Jay, but it's more than my vertigo addled brain can handle. The good news for me is that living on the floor greatly and naturally increases flexibility, so it's easy on and off. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:06:07 PM UTC-7, jay hartman wrote: This brings up a related question. Just how do most people get on their bikes? I put my left foot on the pedal and swing my leg over the back, as one does with a horse. I guess with abig saddlebag that could be a problem, but I don't use them. Jay Hartman On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, Cecily Walker cecily...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The top tube on the Betty Foy ain't *that* low, says this Betty Foy owner with lots of joint problems. On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 4:53:52 AM UTC-8, Michael Flournoy wrote: She needs the low top tube. Joint problems. On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 11:50:42 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: What about one of the other Rivs? I agree with you about the Cheviot colors; baby vomit color is not to my taste either, and I don't like orange. Can she fit on a Sam or a Homer? If I were you I'd be looking for a used Betty in good condition. They come on the market from time to time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
I'm with Patrick on this one...left foot on the ground, right leg up and over. Of course before my recent hip replacement it got to be bike on the ground, walk over it, then lift it back up - not bad with the Quickbeam, a pain with with a fully loaded Hunq with large Saddlesack and what-not. I dismount after stopping as well, same thing in reverse - no coasting dismounts for me these days. Bob On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I keep one foot on the ground, swing the other up and over the back. Works fine even with my large SaddleSack. If I've loaded it with tent, sleeping bag, and pad, then I just pop my foot over the top bar. I've done the pedal mount you describe, Jay, but it's more than my vertigo addled brain can handle. The good news for me is that living on the floor greatly and naturally increases flexibility, so it's easy on and off. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:06:07 PM UTC-7, jay hartman wrote: This brings up a related question. Just how do most people get on their bikes? I put my left foot on the pedal and swing my leg over the back, as one does with a horse. I guess with abig saddlebag that could be a problem, but I don't use them. Jay Hartman On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, Cecily Walker cecily...@gmail.com wrote: The top tube on the Betty Foy ain't *that* low, says this Betty Foy owner with lots of joint problems. On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 4:53:52 AM UTC-8, Michael Flournoy wrote: She needs the low top tube. Joint problems. On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 11:50:42 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: What about one of the other Rivs? I agree with you about the Cheviot colors; baby vomit color is not to my taste either, and I don't like orange. Can she fit on a Sam or a Homer? If I were you I'd be looking for a used Betty in good condition. They come on the market from time to time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com Wu Name: Tha Eurythmic King of Nowhere -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
Left foot on ground. Standing upright on left side of bike. Left hand applying front brake. Right hand on saddle. Right Knee to chest karate kid style and foot steps directly over top tube and down onto ground on right side of bike. I then grab bars with both hands, step one foot up onto top most pedal and away I go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
I stand on my left leg and swing my right leg over the back of the bike. Even with the Large Saddlesack or panniers, I don't have a problem with that. When I used to ride a tandem with a kid stoker, I learned to swing my leg over the handlebars instead, because stokids have to climb up on the bike while it is stopped, so he would already be seated on his saddle and I didn't want to kick him in the face. But now that I don't ride a tandem anymore I swing my leg to the rear. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Riv for the wife
Sorry for the rambling post but... My wife is bike dreaming. We have always had His and Hers bicycles since we were dating 38 years ago. Motobecane Nomade and Mirage Mixte, Trek 820's guys frame and a girls frame, Bianchi Hybrid's guys and girls, etc. They don't have to match exactly but simply be a pair that belong together. A year ago I bought myself a Sam Hillborne ( blue, web special ) which I am happy with. BUT, for the first time, we don't match. So...The problem is the Betty Foy has been discontinued and the Cheviot colors are a turn off. She just doesn't want Orange and the Green looks like puke to both of us. Many years ago a friend of mine said never buy a car or a bike or a house, no matter how good the deal if you don't like the color, because every time you look at it, that will be your first thought and you'll never be happy. I think he was right. It seems silly on the surface, but these are things that you may be using and looking at every day for decades. We still own the Motobecanes - 38 years and still in use. :- ) We have talked about buying a Cheviot and having it painted to better suit. $$$ is an issue on an already expensive bike, plus I worry about the durability. On cars, at least, the factory paint is always much tougher, I've had terrible experience with repaints. Is there any credible rumor of other colors coming down the pipeline ( since they just got the green I doubt it )? We live in Virginia, so we can't just go take a look, maybe the Orange is nicer in person? So my other thought is to buy the frame only and check it out. Maybe we'll like it after all or if not have someone within driving distance do a repaint and build it up myself. 2 questions. Who is recommended in our area. And what is the experience with powdercoating? I understand it to be a really tough, durable finish but can it be done to look nice also? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Riv for the wife
Orange is the fastest color for a bike. I know, because I don’t have one and that explains how slow I am… If you want inexpensive but very solid quality repaints, Bruce at The Color Factory in Waretown, NJ does very nice work. He’s painted 5 frames for me, and they were all very well done, and all under $200! (None over new paint, but I don’t see why that would make any difference.) He takes framesets shipped, and ships them back, all at quite low cost (I want to say around $30?). Bobby Birmingham (Montclair Bobby B on this list) put me on to Bruce; Bobby’s had several frames painted there as well, and though he can speak for himself, I think he’s been extremely satisfied, too. Finally, I saw Peter Morgano’s (Goshen Peter on this list) Bombadil immediately after a repaint (orange, by the way) at Bruce’s place when I was picking up one of my frames, and it was BEAUTIFUL. Bruce has put a contrasting headtube color on one of the frames he did for me – I think it was $30 or so more, and looked very pretty. He’s also painted matching fenders and vintage chainguards for me, and all were the same high quality. No connection to Bruce, other than I think he gives great value and fine quality, and I intend to keep using him. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Flournoy Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 11:21 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Riv for the wife Sorry for the rambling post but... My wife is bike dreaming. We have always had His and Hers bicycles since we were dating 38 years ago. Motobecane Nomade and Mirage Mixte, Trek 820's guys frame and a girls frame, Bianchi Hybrid's guys and girls, etc. They don't have to match exactly but simply be a pair that belong together. A year ago I bought myself a Sam Hillborne ( blue, web special ) which I am happy with. BUT, for the first time, we don't match. So...The problem is the Betty Foy has been discontinued and the Cheviot colors are a turn off. She just doesn't want Orange and the Green looks like puke to both of us. Many years ago a friend of mine said never buy a car or a bike or a house, no matter how good the deal if you don't like the color, because every time you look at it, that will be your first thought and you'll never be happy. I think he was right. It seems silly on the surface, but these are things that you may be using and looking at every day for decades. We still own the Motobecanes - 38 years and still in use. :- ) We have talked about buying a Cheviot and having it painted to better suit. $$$ is an issue on an already expensive bike, plus I worry about the durability. On cars, at least, the factory paint is always much tougher, I've had terrible experience with repaints. Is there any credible rumor of other colors coming down the pipeline ( since they just got the green I doubt it )? We live in Virginia, so we can't just go take a look, maybe the Orange is nicer in person? So my other thought is to buy the frame only and check it out. Maybe we'll like it after all or if not have someone within driving distance do a repaint and build it up myself. 2 questions. Who is recommended in our area. And what is the experience with powdercoating? I understand it to be a really tough, durable finish but can it be done to look nice also? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
Wait, can't you get custom colors for an upcharge? The green might be nice but I agree it has the look of bile to me. On Nov 4, 2014 7:09 AM, Michael Flournoy m...@sewlesstraveled.com wrote: Sorry for the rambling post but... My wife is bike dreaming. We have always had His and Hers bicycles since we were dating 38 years ago. Motobecane Nomade and Mirage Mixte, Trek 820's guys frame and a girls frame, Bianchi Hybrid's guys and girls, etc. They don't have to match exactly but simply be a pair that belong together. A year ago I bought myself a Sam Hillborne ( blue, web special ) which I am happy with. BUT, for the first time, we don't match. So...The problem is the Betty Foy has been discontinued and the Cheviot colors are a turn off. She just doesn't want Orange and the Green looks like puke to both of us. Many years ago a friend of mine said never buy a car or a bike or a house, no matter how good the deal if you don't like the color, because every time you look at it, that will be your first thought and you'll never be happy. I think he was right. It seems silly on the surface, but these are things that you may be using and looking at every day for decades. We still own the Motobecanes - 38 years and still in use. :- ) We have talked about buying a Cheviot and having it painted to better suit. $$$ is an issue on an already expensive bike, plus I worry about the durability. On cars, at least, the factory paint is always much tougher, I've had terrible experience with repaints. Is there any credible rumor of other colors coming down the pipeline ( since they just got the green I doubt it )? We live in Virginia, so we can't just go take a look, maybe the Orange is nicer in person? So my other thought is to buy the frame only and check it out. Maybe we'll like it after all or if not have someone within driving distance do a repaint and build it up myself. 2 questions. Who is recommended in our area. And what is the experience with powdercoating? I understand it to be a really tough, durable finish but can it be done to look nice also? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
What about one of the other Rivs? I agree with you about the Cheviot colors; baby vomit color is not to my taste either, and I don't like orange. Can she fit on a Sam or a Homer? If I were you I'd be looking for a used Betty in good condition. They come on the market from time to time. On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Michael Flournoy m...@sewlesstraveled.com wrote: Sorry for the rambling post but... My wife is bike dreaming. We have always had His and Hers bicycles since we were dating 38 years ago. Motobecane Nomade and Mirage Mixte, Trek 820's guys frame and a girls frame, Bianchi Hybrid's guys and girls, etc. They don't have to match exactly but simply be a pair that belong together. A year ago I bought myself a Sam Hillborne ( blue, web special ) which I am happy with. BUT, for the first time, we don't match. So...The problem is the Betty Foy has been discontinued and the Cheviot colors are a turn off. She just doesn't want Orange and the Green looks like puke to both of us. Many years ago a friend of mine said never buy a car or a bike or a house, no matter how good the deal if you don't like the color, because every time you look at it, that will be your first thought and you'll never be happy. I think he was right. It seems silly on the surface, but these are things that you may be using and looking at every day for decades. We still own the Motobecanes - 38 years and still in use. :- ) We have talked about buying a Cheviot and having it painted to better suit. $$$ is an issue on an already expensive bike, plus I worry about the durability. On cars, at least, the factory paint is always much tougher, I've had terrible experience with repaints. Is there any credible rumor of other colors coming down the pipeline ( since they just got the green I doubt it )? We live in Virginia, so we can't just go take a look, maybe the Orange is nicer in person? So my other thought is to buy the frame only and check it out. Maybe we'll like it after all or if not have someone within driving distance do a repaint and build it up myself. 2 questions. Who is recommended in our area. And what is the experience with powdercoating? I understand it to be a really tough, durable finish but can it be done to look nice also? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife
Call Riv and ask about this. Their custom paints are always fantastic! You'll at least know the cost and can use that to help make a decision. If not, just keep an eye out for a Betty, which is pretty close (although not exact match). On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:44:53 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: Wait, can't you get custom colors for an upcharge? The green might be nice but I agree it has the look of bile to me. On Nov 4, 2014 7:09 AM, Michael Flournoy m...@sewlesstraveled.com javascript: wrote: Sorry for the rambling post but... My wife is bike dreaming. We have always had His and Hers bicycles since we were dating 38 years ago. Motobecane Nomade and Mirage Mixte, Trek 820's guys frame and a girls frame, Bianchi Hybrid's guys and girls, etc. They don't have to match exactly but simply be a pair that belong together. A year ago I bought myself a Sam Hillborne ( blue, web special ) which I am happy with. BUT, for the first time, we don't match. So...The problem is the Betty Foy has been discontinued and the Cheviot colors are a turn off. She just doesn't want Orange and the Green looks like puke to both of us. Many years ago a friend of mine said never buy a car or a bike or a house, no matter how good the deal if you don't like the color, because every time you look at it, that will be your first thought and you'll never be happy. I think he was right. It seems silly on the surface, but these are things that you may be using and looking at every day for decades. We still own the Motobecanes - 38 years and still in use. :- ) We have talked about buying a Cheviot and having it painted to better suit. $$$ is an issue on an already expensive bike, plus I worry about the durability. On cars, at least, the factory paint is always much tougher, I've had terrible experience with repaints. Is there any credible rumor of other colors coming down the pipeline ( since they just got the green I doubt it )? We live in Virginia, so we can't just go take a look, maybe the Orange is nicer in person? So my other thought is to buy the frame only and check it out. Maybe we'll like it after all or if not have someone within driving distance do a repaint and build it up myself. 2 questions. Who is recommended in our area. And what is the experience with powdercoating? I understand it to be a really tough, durable finish but can it be done to look nice also? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
