[RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[Brian Forsee]

I've got some towel rack drop bars on the way to me that will be going on 
my newly acquired AHH. I was planning on picking up one of the tools nitto 
makes specifically for spreading single-bolt stems but Crust was out of 
stock. I've installed plenty of bars using the ole flat head method, which 
always works, but i usually end up with a scratch or two. Anybody got any 
good alternative methods I'm not thinking of?

Thanks!
-Brian

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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[Richard Rose]

Check out this video from Russ/ Path Less Pedaled. He shows a unique tool for this exact purpose.Going UPRIGHT! - Rivendell Bosco Bar Installyoutu.beSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 26, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Brian Forsee  wrote:I've got some towel rack drop bars on the way to me that will be going on my newly acquired AHH. I was planning on picking up one of the tools nitto makes specifically for spreading single-bolt stems but Crust was out of stock. I've installed plenty of bars using the ole flat head method, which always works, but i usually end up with a scratch or two. Anybody got any good alternative methods I'm not thinking of?Thanks!-Brian



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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[Andrew Letton]

 Hi Brian, 
If your stem has a tapped hole for the clamp bolt (as many steel stems have, 
rather than a loose nut like many aluminum Nittos) you can use this method:
Helpful tip: Take the pinch bolt out. Insert a coin in the slot between the 
clamp area. Thread the bolt in from the back side. Tighten it against the coin. 
It will force the clamp open and it will stay that way during your install.

(I copied this from the net, rather than type up my own description.)
HTH,Andrew in Sydney

On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 09:27:40 AM GMT+11, Brian Forsee 
 wrote:  
 
 I've got some towel rack drop bars on the way to me that will be going on my 
newly acquired AHH. I was planning on picking up one of the tools nitto makes 
specifically for spreading single-bolt stems but Crust was out of stock. I've 
installed plenty of bars using the ole flat head method, which always works, 
but i usually end up with a scratch or two. Anybody got any good alternative 
methods I'm not thinking of?
Thanks!-Brian

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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I usually have a nickel (with a few, round dents already in it) somewhere 
on one of my work stands for when I need to do this. Dime is too thin, a 
penny too soft and a quarter is too valuable!
David in Berkeley

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:27:32 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:

> Hi Brian, 
>
> If your stem has a tapped hole for the clamp bolt (as many steel stems 
> have, rather than a loose nut like many aluminum Nittos) you can use this 
> method:
>
> Helpful tip: Take the pinch bolt out. Insert a coin in the slot between 
> the clamp area. Thread the bolt in from the back side. Tighten it against 
> the coin. It will force the clamp open and it will stay that way during 
> your install.
>
> (I copied this from the net, rather than type up my own description.)
>
> HTH,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
>
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 09:27:40 AM GMT+11, Brian Forsee <
> bmfo...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> I've got some towel rack drop bars on the way to me that will be going on 
> my newly acquired AHH. I was planning on picking up one of the tools nitto 
> makes specifically for spreading single-bolt stems but Crust was out of 
> stock. I've installed plenty of bars using the ole flat head method, which 
> always works, but i usually end up with a scratch or two. Anybody got any 
> good alternative methods I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks!
> -Brian
>
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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[lconley]

The Path Less Pedaled tool is same type of tool (snap ring expander) that I 
use. Actually less expensive than the Nitto tool. The Nitto tool doesn't 
actually work any better.

Laing

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 6:46:32 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Check out this video from Russ/ Path Less Pedaled. He shows a unique tool 
> for this exact purpose.
> [image: maxresdefault.jpg]
>
> Going UPRIGHT! - Rivendell Bosco Bar Install 
> 
> youtu.be 
> 
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 26, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Brian Forsee  wrote:
>
> I've got some towel rack drop bars on the way to me that will be going on 
> my newly acquired AHH. I was planning on picking up one of the tools nitto 
> makes specifically for spreading single-bolt stems but Crust was out of 
> stock. I've installed plenty of bars using the ole flat head method, which 
> always works, but i usually end up with a scratch or two. Anybody got any 
> good alternative methods I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks!
> -Brian
>
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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[Patrick Moore]

This works if the threaded hole is open at the outer end but not if it's
capped. I've managed to spread Nitto stems with a large flathead
screwdriver but yes, the Nitto spreader tool is far easier to use. If the
absence of the Nitto tool, a thin but stiff and sturdy and properly thick
piece of steel works better than the flathead which will have a tapered
profile that makes this use awkward.

FWIW, way back in the day when I several times installed drop bars onto my
55 cm XO-1 and my first, similarly-sized (54 cm) 1995 Riv road custom
(Grant said "Don't you dare" when I told him I'd tell others how much I
liked the compact, XO-1-style frame design, but I think the statute of
limitations has expired) using the penny trick. In fact, several times I
installed a 26.4 mm Cinelli Giro d'Italia bar into 25.4mm Tioga and Salsa
steel stems using this method; steel is very forgiving.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:13 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I usually have a nickel (with a few, round dents already in it) somewhere
> on one of my work stands for when I need to do this. Dime is too thin, a
> penny too soft and a quarter is too valuable!
> David in Berkeley
>
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:27:32 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:
>
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> If your stem has a tapped hole for the clamp bolt (as many steel stems
>> have, rather than a loose nut like many aluminum Nittos) you can use this
>> method:
>>
>> Helpful tip: Take the pinch bolt out. Insert a coin in the slot between
>> the clamp area. Thread the bolt in from the back side. Tighten it against
>> the coin. It will force the clamp open and it will stay that way during
>> your install.
>>
>> (I copied this from the net, rather than type up my own description.)
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[JohnS]

+1 on the coin trick, but I've used a large flat washer, no federal offense 
committed :P

JohnS


On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:26:33 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This works if the threaded hole is open at the outer end but not if it's 
> capped. I've managed to spread Nitto stems with a large flathead 
> screwdriver but yes, the Nitto spreader tool is far easier to use. If the 
> absence of the Nitto tool, a thin but stiff and sturdy and properly thick 
> piece of steel works better than the flathead which will have a tapered 
> profile that makes this use awkward.
>
> FWIW, way back in the day when I several times installed drop bars onto my 
> 55 cm XO-1 and my first, similarly-sized (54 cm) 1995 Riv road custom 
> (Grant said "Don't you dare" when I told him I'd tell others how much I 
> liked the compact, XO-1-style frame design, but I think the statute of 
> limitations has expired) using the penny trick. In fact, several times I 
> installed a 26.4 mm Cinelli Giro d'Italia bar into 25.4mm Tioga and Salsa 
> steel stems using this method; steel is very forgiving.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:13 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I usually have a nickel (with a few, round dents already in it) somewhere 
>> on one of my work stands for when I need to do this. Dime is too thin, a 
>> penny too soft and a quarter is too valuable!
>> David in Berkeley
>>
>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:27:32 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Brian, 
>>>
>>> If your stem has a tapped hole for the clamp bolt (as many steel stems 
>>> have, rather than a loose nut like many aluminum Nittos) you can use this 
>>> method:
>>>
>>> Helpful tip: Take the pinch bolt out. Insert a coin in the slot between 
>>> the clamp area. Thread the bolt in from the back side. Tighten it against 
>>> the coin. It will force the clamp open and it will stay that way during 
>>> your install.
>>>
>>> (I copied this from the net, rather than type up my own description.)
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[Todd G]

I’ve had good success using the flat sides of a 6 or 8mm Hex wrench. Gently 
rotating, or applying gentle up or down prying type pressure has always 
worked well for me. 

On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 8:29:37 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:

> +1 on the coin trick, but I've used a large flat washer, no federal 
> offense committed :P
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:26:33 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> This works if the threaded hole is open at the outer end but not if it's 
>> capped. I've managed to spread Nitto stems with a large flathead 
>> screwdriver but yes, the Nitto spreader tool is far easier to use. If the 
>> absence of the Nitto tool, a thin but stiff and sturdy and properly thick 
>> piece of steel works better than the flathead which will have a tapered 
>> profile that makes this use awkward.
>>
>> FWIW, way back in the day when I several times installed drop bars onto 
>> my 55 cm XO-1 and my first, similarly-sized (54 cm) 1995 Riv road custom 
>> (Grant said "Don't you dare" when I told him I'd tell others how much I 
>> liked the compact, XO-1-style frame design, but I think the statute of 
>> limitations has expired) using the penny trick. In fact, several times I 
>> installed a 26.4 mm Cinelli Giro d'Italia bar into 25.4mm Tioga and Salsa 
>> steel stems using this method; steel is very forgiving.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:13 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I usually have a nickel (with a few, round dents already in it) 
>>> somewhere on one of my work stands for when I need to do this. Dime is too 
>>> thin, a penny too soft and a quarter is too valuable!
>>> David in Berkeley
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:27:32 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>>
 Hi Brian, 

 If your stem has a tapped hole for the clamp bolt (as many steel stems 
 have, rather than a loose nut like many aluminum Nittos) you can use this 
 method:

 Helpful tip: Take the pinch bolt out. Insert a coin in the slot between 
 the clamp area. Thread the bolt in from the back side. Tighten it against 
 the coin. It will force the clamp open and it will stay that way during 
 your install.

 (I copied this from the net, rather than type up my own description.)

>>>

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