Re: [RBW] Sit Bone Width and Saddles

[Ted Durant]

> On Feb 29, 2024, at 9:18 PM, Jay  wrote:
> 
>  Maybe it was because I wasn't wearing bibs that have just don't work for me. 
>  

That’s a very good possibility. I worked hard to find saddles that work well 
for me and, in the case of the leather saddles, worked hard to tune the fit. 
Anything more than a very thin pad in biking shorts ruins the ride for me. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI 53217


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Re: [RBW] Sit Bone Width and Saddles

[Josiah Anderson]

Hi Jay,

If you like leather saddles but a B17 is (maybe) too wide, have you tried a
Brooks Professional? The construction is similar but they're about 15mm
narrower than a B17, IIRC. The Idéale 90 and Berthoud Galibier are also
both nice narrower leather saddles. The Pro and 90 are my two favorite
saddles for a "road bike" (less-upright) position.

Josiah


Le mer. 28 févr. 2024 à 5:45 PM, Jay  a écrit :

> I'll preface this by saying I know saddles are highly subjective, and what
> works for one may not work fo you.  What I wanted to ask about is "general
> thinking".  Just wanting to confirm some thoughts I've had about this...
>
> My sit bones are 125mm apart.  I've had them measured a few times.  This
> is when I'm sitting upright.  I believe general rule is the more upright
> you are on the bike, the wider you go with the saddle (e.g., if I'm 90
> degrees/straight up, add a few cm; aero, maybe just one cm).  Any other
> logic to share with respect to sit bones and saddle width?
>
> My saddle is level with tops of my bars (on two of three bikes).  This
> puts me in a comfortable position, maybe 60 degrees when I'm in the hoods.
> All three bikes have drop bars, but only the older road bike has bars below
> the saddle.  My neck and upper back feel great in this position, and I've
> previously had issues in this area, so that's a victory.
>
> I'm still dialing in my Roadini, but for now I have a WTB Silverado on
> there (135 wide).  It's maybe a little narrow, but I've done 2hr rides and
> felt fine (pedalling is not impeded at all, and it's comfortable in the
> nether regions).  Feels like my sit bones are close to the edge but I can
> feel around there and know there is just enough room to spare.  I've had
> that same saddle on another bike and that was also fine.  Not a big fan of
> the edges on that saddle, as it's very flat across and feels like it's
> digging in a bit (a cm further out than my sit bones), but I'm trying to
> sort that out and not really my point with this post (just sharing for
> context).  Reason I went with this 135mm saddle is my previous 147mm
> Prologo felt too wide, and the cut out was digging in the nether regions.
> So I tried something more narrow and I no longer get that discomfort.
>
> I do have a Brooks B17, and I've had one before on an older bike, and a
> few other leather saddles over the years.  What's attracted me to them is
> that I rarely got any friction or chafing, or sit bone pain.  I do set them
> up, nose up, so rear of the saddle is flat and I'm not sliding forward.
>
> However, the B17 is 35mm wider than the WTB, and 45mm wider than my sit
> bones, so I'm wondering if this saddle make sense for me...and anyone else
> with similar 'specs'. I've read/watched reviews where much bigger folks
> love the saddle (some hate it too, but that's maybe about
> leather/hardness).  Some of the reviews are from people who say their sit
> bones are 150+ apart.  That gives them 10mm on either side, vs. my 22.5mm
> per side.  I realize how we sit on the saddle, torso angle, etc., are
> different, but generally speaking...like do skinny people or those with
> somewhat narrow sit bones get along great with this saddle?  If so, is
> there a set up trick for them, that is different than someone with much
> wider sit bones?  I would say my problem with it is pedalling freedom, and
> not feeling impeded by the size of the saddle, the skirt, etc.  I can't say
> for sure that's my problem with it, just giving a theory.
>
> I'll pause there, as I'll likely get some good questions/comments and can
> take it from there.  Thanks!
>
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[RBW] Sit Bone Width and Saddles

[Jay]

I'll preface this by saying I know saddles are highly subjective, and what 
works for one may not work fo you.  What I wanted to ask about is "general 
thinking".  Just wanting to confirm some thoughts I've had about this...

My sit bones are 125mm apart.  I've had them measured a few times.  This is 
when I'm sitting upright.  I believe general rule is the more upright you 
are on the bike, the wider you go with the saddle (e.g., if I'm 90 
degrees/straight up, add a few cm; aero, maybe just one cm).  Any other 
logic to share with respect to sit bones and saddle width?

My saddle is level with tops of my bars (on two of three bikes).  This puts 
me in a comfortable position, maybe 60 degrees when I'm in the hoods.  All 
three bikes have drop bars, but only the older road bike has bars below the 
saddle.  My neck and upper back feel great in this position, and I've 
previously had issues in this area, so that's a victory.

I'm still dialing in my Roadini, but for now I have a WTB Silverado on 
there (135 wide).  It's maybe a little narrow, but I've done 2hr rides and 
felt fine (pedalling is not impeded at all, and it's comfortable in the 
nether regions).  Feels like my sit bones are close to the edge but I can 
feel around there and know there is just enough room to spare.  I've had 
that same saddle on another bike and that was also fine.  Not a big fan of 
the edges on that saddle, as it's very flat across and feels like it's 
digging in a bit (a cm further out than my sit bones), but I'm trying to 
sort that out and not really my point with this post (just sharing for 
context).  Reason I went with this 135mm saddle is my previous 147mm 
Prologo felt too wide, and the cut out was digging in the nether regions. 
 So I tried something more narrow and I no longer get that discomfort.

I do have a Brooks B17, and I've had one before on an older bike, and a few 
other leather saddles over the years.  What's attracted me to them is that 
I rarely got any friction or chafing, or sit bone pain.  I do set them up, 
nose up, so rear of the saddle is flat and I'm not sliding forward.  

However, the B17 is 35mm wider than the WTB, and 45mm wider than my sit 
bones, so I'm wondering if this saddle make sense for me...and anyone else 
with similar 'specs'. I've read/watched reviews where much bigger folks 
love the saddle (some hate it too, but that's maybe about 
leather/hardness).  Some of the reviews are from people who say their sit 
bones are 150+ apart.  That gives them 10mm on either side, vs. my 22.5mm 
per side.  I realize how we sit on the saddle, torso angle, etc., are 
different, but generally speaking...like do skinny people or those with 
somewhat narrow sit bones get along great with this saddle?  If so, is 
there a set up trick for them, that is different than someone with much 
wider sit bones?  I would say my problem with it is pedalling freedom, and 
not feeling impeded by the size of the saddle, the skirt, etc.  I can't say 
for sure that's my problem with it, just giving a theory.

I'll pause there, as I'll likely get some good questions/comments and can 
take it from there.  Thanks!

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