[RBW] Wow! What's going on with Rivendell caps going for $$$

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

So I was browsing eBay and happened upon this auction 
. The auction is for a *used* Rivendell cycling 
cap, and started yesterday (Nov 13th). The bids quickly added up and 
currently, a full 6 days before the auction ends, we're already at $51 plus 
$3.95 for shipping.

Looking at the cap in question, I don't see anything special about it. It's 
cotton, its proceeds will not benefit any charity, and it's *used *(albeit 
in almost-new condition). Why are people willing to bid this cap up so 
high? And more importantly, am *I* now slightly wealthier because I have a 
stack of similar used Rivendell caps in different colors, including this 
mustard-yellow version? :)

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[RBW] wow

[Eric Floden]

I went into my LBS (Reckless, on Fir St.) with my green Bombadil, and the
young man most often there (Matt) looked at it for a beat of 2 and said,
Wow it's not orange...

I think that is pretty fast processing. And I have only ever seen Bombas in
orange.

EricF
Vancouver BC

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[RBW] Wow the new grey Cheviots are gorgeous!!!

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

They're all beautiful but man, oh man, those grey ones. And they're the last 
ones for several years! I'm not so sure that I'm going to be able to stop 
myself from buying two of them, a 60cm for me and a 55 for her...I've got no 
room, no parts and still have a tandem coming...I'm feeling faint...

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[RBW] Wow. California gets mud.

[BenG]

Thanks Manny, fun to see your outing, and to read from you again.

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Re: [RBW] Wow. California gets mud.

[cyclotourist]

Nothing as nice as a green California winter!

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Justin August
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> Manny-
> Let's talk house hunting as teachers and the joys contained within...
>
> -Justin, searching in the East Bay...
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[RBW] Wow. California gets mud.

[Justin August]

Manny-
Let's talk house hunting as teachers and the joys contained within...

-Justin, searching in the East Bay...

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[RBW] Wow. California gets mud.

[Manuel Acosta]

It's been a while. 
But with marriage and house looking. Bike photos becomes secondary.

Anyways. Breaking news!
When you get a week of rain, after a 5 year drought in California, the 
trails won't be dry.


Pictures proved that there was mudd and the ride was a sub10 miler:
https://flic.kr/s/aHskpTNyn1


Manny " Still alive and kicking" Acosta





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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris in Redding, Ca.]

Hey All, 

> Oooops, i now see the pics. The angles look right, along with the long 
>> stays. Some of the parts are right, but some aren't quite the same as came 
>> on my 84s. And I don't remember the sport coming in that blue. I think the 
>> build kit says yours is an 86 Stumpjumper (non-sport). So yours would be a 
>> step up from a sport. That's a very nice bike. 
>>
>
Chris 

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris in Redding, Ca.]

Hey David,
If you are takling to me then I'm sure I can tell if your bike is a sport. 
They were unique and are easy to identify. Send me pics. Otherwise, please 
ignore everything I just said.
Chris
Redding, Ca.

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 12:56:50 PM UTC-8, David Hays wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
> Can you tell if my friend’s Stumpjumper is a Sport?
> Just wondered is I picked it up I could set up like some on road/off road 
> Atlantics I see?
> Thanks
> David
> Kenmore, New York
>
>  
>
> On Jan 9, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Chris in Redding, Ca.  > wrote:
>
> Hey All,
> I bought an 84 Stumpy Sport new back then. I rode it for over twenty years 
> before I killed it. I then bought a rough 84 Stumpy Sport off the local CL 
> for $50 and ride it daily. I won't argue about the ride except to say that 
> I have always really liked it. I can say for certain that they are 
> extraordinarily durable, ride easy, and have an odd ability to ride nicely 
> both laden and unladen. No other bike has done that last one for me. This 
> is why I am so interested in some of the more recent RBW framesets. I also 
> have an early 90's steel Rockhopper hard tail that I like for different 
> reasons. They are very different bikes.
>
> Chris
> Redding, Ca.
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[David Hays]

Hi Chris,
Can you tell if my friend’s Stumpjumper is a Sport?
Just wondered is I picked it up I could set up like some on road/off road 
Atlantics I see?
Thanks
David
Kenmore, New York

 
> On Jan 9, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Chris in Redding, Ca.  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey All,
> I bought an 84 Stumpy Sport new back then. I rode it for over twenty years 
> before I killed it. I then bought a rough 84 Stumpy Sport off the local CL 
> for $50 and ride it daily. I won't argue about the ride except to say that I 
> have always really liked it. I can say for certain that they are 
> extraordinarily durable, ride easy, and have an odd ability to ride nicely 
> both laden and unladen. No other bike has done that last one for me. This is 
> why I am so interested in some of the more recent RBW framesets. I also have 
> an early 90's steel Rockhopper hard tail that I like for different reasons. 
> They are very different bikes.
> 
> Chris
> Redding, Ca.
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris in Redding, Ca.]

Hey All,
I bought an 84 Stumpy Sport new back then. I rode it for over twenty years 
before I killed it. I then bought a rough 84 Stumpy Sport off the local CL 
for $50 and ride it daily. I won't argue about the ride except to say that 
I have always really liked it. I can say for certain that they are 
extraordinarily durable, ride easy, and have an odd ability to ride nicely 
both laden and unladen. No other bike has done that last one for me. This 
is why I am so interested in some of the more recent RBW framesets. I also 
have an early 90's steel Rockhopper hard tail that I like for different 
reasons. They are very different bikes.

Chris
Redding, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris Chen]

I love the KOM! I'm going to be putting a dirt drop stem on the StumpJumper
Comp (I think I'll name him Chompy) with some 46 noodles I also have a set
of Moustache bars which may also give me that "in the drops" feel. I think
it'll be crazy little shredder. The frame was for sale at a local store for
$75.

I'm remembering one of the older Riv Readers where the writer bought a $100
Team America schwinn MTB and rode it across the country. Just love those
stories; kind of brings it back home.

cc

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> I have a similar-era MTB, an '88 Schwinn KOM
> .  It's lugged
> Tange Prestige racer, and has the improved (from the Klunkers) NORBA
> geometry(71° head / 74° seat).  So it's a better all-rounder then the
> earlier klunker-inspired frames, but still not great for technical trails.
>
> With the original flat bars, I felt like I rode on top of the bike, with a
> upright, cruiser-esque ride.  Since I swapped the cockpit to drop bars
> (Nitto B135/Dirt Drop 8/TRP levers/bar-ends), my weight is lower and more
> forward, and now the bike is a total dream to ride.  The semi-slick 26x2.1"
> tires are great for potholed streets, gravel, packed dirt, and yet are
> still fast.  Riding a stout MTB frame gives me more confidence jumping
> curbs and hopping over potholes that I may steer around on my Riv or
> gofast.  Now my KOM is a "monstercross 26er", and it regularly steals
> riding time from my Riv.
>
> Even with a great bike, it may take some experimentation before it's great
> for you.
>
> Some of these vintage designs can make great townie bikes, upright
> cruisers, or even drop bar all-rounders.  The second generation (late 80s)
> and third generation (early 90s) rigid MTBs seem to make the best
> candidates, where the 1st gen bikes (like the 82 Stumpy that started this
> discussion) seem best relegated to cruiser duty (or a museum).
>
> I'm refinishing the frame now (and brazing on some rack and fender
> eyelets), so the vintage "captain america" paint job is finally gone.  A bald
> eagle shed a tear
> 
> when that paint was removed, but I think the bike will look awesome with a
> clear coat over a bead blast finish, showing off the lugs and brazing.
>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Tim Gavin]

I have a similar-era MTB, an '88 Schwinn KOM
.  It's lugged Tange
Prestige racer, and has the improved (from the Klunkers) NORBA
geometry(71° head
/ 74° seat).  So it's a better all-rounder then the earlier
klunker-inspired frames, but still not great for technical trails.

With the original flat bars, I felt like I rode on top of the bike, with a
upright, cruiser-esque ride.  Since I swapped the cockpit to drop bars
(Nitto B135/Dirt Drop 8/TRP levers/bar-ends), my weight is lower and more
forward, and now the bike is a total dream to ride.  The semi-slick 26x2.1"
tires are great for potholed streets, gravel, packed dirt, and yet are
still fast.  Riding a stout MTB frame gives me more confidence jumping
curbs and hopping over potholes that I may steer around on my Riv or
gofast.  Now my KOM is a "monstercross 26er", and it regularly steals
riding time from my Riv.

Even with a great bike, it may take some experimentation before it's great
for you.

Some of these vintage designs can make great townie bikes, upright
cruisers, or even drop bar all-rounders.  The second generation (late 80s)
and third generation (early 90s) rigid MTBs seem to make the best
candidates, where the 1st gen bikes (like the 82 Stumpy that started this
discussion) seem best relegated to cruiser duty (or a museum).

I'm refinishing the frame now (and brazing on some rack and fender
eyelets), so the vintage "captain america" paint job is finally gone.  A bald
eagle shed a tear

when that paint was removed, but I think the bike will look awesome with a
clear coat over a bead blast finish, showing off the lugs and brazing.

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Montclair BobbyB]

They call him *Andy "StumpPuller" Cheatham... Beast of the Alleghenies.*.. 
haven't heard of too many people busting a Stumpy chainstay. 
Consider yourself fortunate, I have several friends who more recently had 
less fortunate dealings with Specialized to warrant busted frames.

I did want to make an observation about the 25th Anniversary Edition of the 
Stumpy... Great concept (good for Specialized!).  While the frames looked 
simply awesome and the attention to detail was mostly there, I was deeply 
disappointed with the components selection (i.e. newer style cranks, 
derailleurs, etc.)... those you can get anywhere.  I would have probably 
plopped down the $$ for one if Specialized had created a true (and 
complete) replica (and I believe it would have been a bigger hit had they 
somehow managed to find period-specific componentry for it... which I 
realize may have been a tall order).  But something was clearly lost in the 
modernization of this, sorry to say...

 

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 6:01:37 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:
>
> I had a '89 Stumpjumper and broke the right chain stay, spirally from the 
> bridge weld before a year was up, and received a '90 frame on warranty from 
> Morgan Hill. That one was sweet, Tange tubing, their "Direct Drive" 
> architecture, shorter stays, more departure from CA Klunker geometry. Still 
> a bit unwieldily on the trails of my region (Ozark Mounttains), my '91 
> Bridgestone was so much better handling in that environment.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 10:56:57 PM UTC-5, James Warren wrote:
>>
>> I remember those days. In '91, I test-rode Stumpjumpers and Rockhoppers. 
>> Geometry not as good as the Bridgestones for me. I loved that long 
>> Bridgestone TT. (I ended up buying the '91 MB-4, my first big bike 
>> purchase. That bike's still going strong today.) The Diamond Backs of those 
>> days felt great too, similar to the Bridgestones for me.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Slowly steering this back on-topic, there sure was a lot of fun 
>> development of mountain bike geometry between the original Stumpjumpers and 
>> the early 90's. It makes those original Stumpjumpers curious specimens. So 
>> desirable in some ways, but maybe too archaic to be fun for a lot of people 
>> to ride now?
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Patrick Moore 
>> Sent: Jan 8, 2015 6:42 PM 
>> To: rbw-owners-bunch 
>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow 
>>
>> In my experience, the later ones -- early '90s, when they were still steel
>> -- are among the best mountain bikes ever; far better IMO than the very
>> early ones, which for all their looks handled (to my taste) like pigs. My
>> '90 Stumpjumper Comp and '91 SJ Team were truly neutral in handling -- off
>> road, they went where you pointed and were neither twitchy nor sluggish. 
>> My
>> DB Axis Team from the same period handled if possible even nicer. That era
>> certainly hit a sweet spot.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Chris Chen wrote:
>>
>> > A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger
>> > sibling:
>> >
>> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB <
>> > montcla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of
>> >> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and 
>> manufactured
>> >> literally 6 months after this TIG model. But IT sold for *(only)* $430,
>> >> which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>> >>
>> >> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further...
>> >> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a
>> >> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but
>> >> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork"). I thought *WOW,... Now if I
>> >> could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>> >>
>> >> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork)
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>> >>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft.
>> >>> Collins.
>> >>> 

Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My reply was meant to be directly to Christopher's post of that pink-ish 
1990's Stumpjumper frameset.  I guess I hit the wrong button.  I have an 
early 90's too-small Rockhopper that is the best riding bike I've ridden so 
far.  That pink-ish Stumpjumper probably has the same geometry but with 
better tubing and it's the right size for me.   Would love to find one of 
those for a reasonable price.  

Having said that, I do like the handling of the earlier 80's MTB's, within 
a specific context.  As an all-rounder bike for mostly pavement riding, 
they are fantastic.  I have very limited experience riding off-road but 
everything mentioned here about those old things being horrible trail 
bikes, I agree with.   



On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:50:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> I've ridden a couple MTN bikes from that era both Specialized, one was a 
> Stumpjumper sport and I thought the handling was just terrible. Not a joy 
> to ride. Way high BB and super slack angles just wasn't for me. 
>
> Does anybody actually like the way these bikes ride? If so I might be able 
> to arrange for you to get that lugged stumpy sport or send you a lead on a 
> great deal on the 25th Anniversary Stumpjumper.
>
> Dave J
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:19:18 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> That is going to build up to be a damn fine bicycle.   
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 4:21:45 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger 
>>> sibling:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of 
>>>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured 
>>>> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)* 
>>>> $430, which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>>>>
>>>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further... 
>>>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a 
>>>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but 
>>>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if 
>>>> I could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>>>>
>>>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork) 
>>>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>>>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft. 
>>>>> Collins.
>>>>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Nawrocki
>>>>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>>>>
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>>>>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>>>>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>>>>
>>>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more 
>>>>> like those $100 water bottles:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-
>>>>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/
>>>>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[ascpgh]

I had a '89 Stumpjumper and broke the right chain stay, spirally from the 
bridge weld before a year was up, and received a '90 frame on warranty from 
Morgan Hill. That one was sweet, Tange tubing, their "Direct Drive" 
architecture, shorter stays, more departure from CA Klunker geometry. Still 
a bit unwieldily on the trails of my region (Ozark Mounttains), my '91 
Bridgestone was so much better handling in that environment.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 10:56:57 PM UTC-5, James Warren wrote:
>
> I remember those days. In '91, I test-rode Stumpjumpers and Rockhoppers. 
> Geometry not as good as the Bridgestones for me. I loved that long 
> Bridgestone TT. (I ended up buying the '91 MB-4, my first big bike 
> purchase. That bike's still going strong today.) The Diamond Backs of those 
> days felt great too, similar to the Bridgestones for me.
>
>  
>
> Slowly steering this back on-topic, there sure was a lot of fun 
> development of mountain bike geometry between the original Stumpjumpers and 
> the early 90's. It makes those original Stumpjumpers curious specimens. So 
> desirable in some ways, but maybe too archaic to be fun for a lot of people 
> to ride now?
>
>
>
>  
>
> -Original Message----- 
> From: Patrick Moore 
> Sent: Jan 8, 2015 6:42 PM 
> To: rbw-owners-bunch 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow 
>
> In my experience, the later ones -- early '90s, when they were still steel
> -- are among the best mountain bikes ever; far better IMO than the very
> early ones, which for all their looks handled (to my taste) like pigs. My
> '90 Stumpjumper Comp and '91 SJ Team were truly neutral in handling -- off
> road, they went where you pointed and were neither twitchy nor sluggish. My
> DB Axis Team from the same period handled if possible even nicer. That era
> certainly hit a sweet spot.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Chris Chen wrote:
>
> > A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger
> > sibling:
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB <
> > montcla...@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> >> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of
> >> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and 
> manufactured
> >> literally 6 months after this TIG model. But IT sold for *(only)* $430,
> >> which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
> >>
> >> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further...
> >> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a
> >> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but
> >> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork"). I thought *WOW,... Now if I
> >> could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
> >>
> >> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork)
> >> 
> >>
> >> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
> >>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft.
> >>> Collins.
> >>> I have stood and stared at it.
> >>>
> >>> Dave Nawrocki
> >>> Ft. Collins, CO
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
> >>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
> >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
> >>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
> >>>
> >>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like
> >>> those $100 water bottles:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-
> >>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/
> >>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
> >>>
> >>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[James Warren]

I remember those days. In '91, I test-rode Stumpjumpers and Rockhoppers. Geometry not as good as the Bridgestones for me. I loved that long Bridgestone TT. (I ended up buying the '91 MB-4, my first big bike purchase. That bike's still going strong today.) The Diamond Backs of those days felt great too, similar to the Bridgestones for me.
 
Slowly steering this back on-topic, there sure was a lot of fun development of mountain bike geometry between the original Stumpjumpers and the early 90's. It makes those original Stumpjumpers curious specimens. So desirable in some ways, but maybe too archaic to be fun for a lot of people to ride now?
 
-Original Message- From: Patrick Moore Sent: Jan 8, 2015 6:42 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow In my experience, the later ones -- early '90s, when they were still steel-- are among the best mountain bikes ever; far better IMO than the veryearly ones, which for all their looks handled (to my taste) like pigs. My'90 Stumpjumper Comp and '91 SJ Team were truly neutral in handling -- offroad, they went where you pointed and were neither twitchy nor sluggish. MyDB Axis Team from the same period handled if possible even nicer. That eracertainly hit a sweet spot.On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Chris Chen wrote:> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger> sibling:>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB <> montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote:>>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured>> literally 6 months after this TIG model. But IT sold for *(only)* $430,>> which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.>>>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further...>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork"). I thought *WOW,... Now if I>> could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*>>>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork)>> >>>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:>>>>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft.>>> Collins.>>> I have stood and stared at it.>>>>>> Dave Nawrocki>>> Ft. Collins, CO>>>>>> -->>> *From: *"Chris Chen" >>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow>>>>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like>>> those $100 water bottles:>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper->>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/>>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d>>>>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry>>>>>> -->>> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah>>>>>>>>> -->>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com.>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.>>>>>> -->> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an>> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.>>>>>> --> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah>> --> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@

Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Montclair BobbyB]

Case in point: http://tinyurl.com/7yuh9u2

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Montclair BobbyB]

I agree the early Stumpies made awful mountain bikes (at least by today's 
standards)... But considering Specialized was trying to dial in the "right" 
trail geometry without having any market feedback, they started getting it 
right within a few short years (the 85 geometry was already a big improvement). 
 And the silver lining: the early Stumpies made better all-rounders, and what 
they may have lacked in pure technical (trail) agility they more than make up 
in pure style.  
An old Stumpy with a set of Big Apples and a Brooks saddle is 100% badass. 

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Patrick Moore]

In my experience, the later ones -- early '90s, when they were still steel
-- are among the best mountain bikes ever; far better IMO than the very
early ones, which for all their looks handled (to my taste) like pigs. My
'90 Stumpjumper Comp and '91 SJ Team were truly neutral in handling -- off
road, they went where you pointed and were neither twitchy nor sluggish. My
DB Axis Team from the same period handled if possible even nicer. That era
certainly hit a sweet spot.

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:

> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger
> sibling:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB <
> montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of
>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured
>> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)* $430,
>> which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>>
>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further...
>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a
>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but
>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if I
>> could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>>
>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork)
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>>
>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft.
>>> Collins.
>>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>>
>>> Dave Nawrocki
>>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>>
>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like
>>> those $100 water bottles:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-
>>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/
>>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>>
>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>>
>>> --
>>> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Eric Platt]

Early Stumpjumpers were 68 degrees. The first version of the Stumpjumper Sport 
was 67 degrees. The chainstays were 18.5 and 19 inches, respectively.

Eric Platt

On January 8, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:

I looked up the Geo of the '89 Koga and the head angle is supposed to be 72°. 
Rake is 46mm. Any idea what the head angle of the early Stumpjumpers was?


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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Dave Johnston]

I looked up the Geo of the '89 Koga and the head angle is supposed to be 
72°. Rake is 46mm. Any idea what the head angle of the early Stumpjumpers 
was?


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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Dave Johnston]

Chris, Not sure the year but here is a pic of a Stumpjumper Sport I helped 
restore to working order for a friend. Hated the ride. But I like the ride 
of my 1989 Koga Miyata Valley Runner. (also pictured)


 




On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 8:56:33 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Are you talking about the original stumpjumpers? I agree the headtube 
> angle is frightening.
>
> I have a '94 RockHopper as my California bike (say it like AHHHNOLD) and 
> it's serviceable, but I'm hoping I can make this little piece of lipstick 
> fly.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Montclair BobbyB]

That looks like a Tange Prestige sticker in one of the photos...that and the 
unicrown fork suggests it's perhaps a 1986?  Really nice, if still available 
pay him whatever he asks and throw in unlimited beer for an entire year.

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris Chen]

Are you talking about the original stumpjumpers? I agree the headtube angle
is frightening.

I have a '94 RockHopper as my California bike (say it like AHHHNOLD) and
it's serviceable, but I'm hoping I can make this little piece of lipstick
fly.

cc

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:

> I've ridden a couple MTN bikes from that era both Specialized, one was a
> Stumpjumper sport and I thought the handling was just terrible. Not a joy
> to ride. Way high BB and super slack angles just wasn't for me.
>
> Does anybody actually like the way these bikes ride? If so I might be able
> to arrange for you to get that lugged stumpy sport or send you a lead on a
> great deal on the 25th Anniversary Stumpjumper.
>
> Dave J
>
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:19:18 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> That is going to build up to be a damn fine bicycle.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 4:21:45 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger
>>> sibling:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of
>>>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured
>>>> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)*
>>>> $430, which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>>>>
>>>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further...
>>>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a
>>>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but
>>>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if
>>>> I could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>>>>
>>>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork)
>>>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>>>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft.
>>>>> Collins.
>>>>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Nawrocki
>>>>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>>>>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>>>>
>>>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more
>>>>> like those $100 water bottles:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-origina
>>>>> l-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_
>>>>> Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Dave Johnston]

I've ridden a couple MTN bikes from that era both Specialized, one was a 
Stumpjumper sport and I thought the handling was just terrible. Not a joy 
to ride. Way high BB and super slack angles just wasn't for me. 

Does anybody actually like the way these bikes ride? If so I might be able 
to arrange for you to get that lugged stumpy sport or send you a lead on a 
great deal on the 25th Anniversary Stumpjumper.

Dave J

On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:19:18 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> That is going to build up to be a damn fine bicycle.   
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 4:21:45 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>
>> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger 
>> sibling:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of 
>>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured 
>>> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)* 
>>> $430, which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>>>
>>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further... 
>>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a 
>>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but 
>>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if 
>>> I could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>>>
>>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork) 
>>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft. 
>>>> Collins.
>>>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Nawrocki
>>>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>>>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>>>
>>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like 
>>>> those $100 water bottles:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-
>>>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/
>>>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>>>
>>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That is going to build up to be a damn fine bicycle.   



On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 4:21:45 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger 
> sibling:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB  > wrote:
>
>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of 
>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured 
>> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)* $430, 
>> which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>>
>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further... 
>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a 
>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but 
>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if I 
>> could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>>
>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork) 
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>>
>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft. 
>>> Collins.
>>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>>
>>> Dave Nawrocki
>>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>>
>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like 
>>> those $100 water bottles:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-
>>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/
>>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>>
>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris Chen]

But wouldn't it be even cooler if it was ridden? :)

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> That's an INCREDIBLE collector.  I'm not a collector, and it's too small
> to be a rider, but dang, that's incredible.  Too many impressive details to
> list.  That one maybe should be on display, at least at one of these
> Specialized concept shops.
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-8, David Hays wrote:
>>
>> Does begin to make me wonder….
>> A friend offered me this a few years ago as he and his wife had new
>> hybrid bikes.
>> I was beginning to have few many bikes and said I’d see if I found anyone
>> interested.
>> He said it was a 1984:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/sets/72157650129619306/
>> Not wanting to steal it but what’s it worth?
>> Thanks.
>> David Hays
>> Kenmore, New York
>>
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:
>>
>> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger
>> sibling:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of
>>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured
>>> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)*
>>> $430, which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>>>
>>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further...
>>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a
>>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but
>>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if
>>> I could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>>>
>>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork)
>>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft.
>>>> Collins.
>>>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Nawrocki
>>>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>>>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>>>
>>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like
>>>> those $100 water bottles:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-origina
>>>> l-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_
>>>> Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>>>
>>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris Chen]

Why haven't you stolen it yet? :)

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:36 PM, David Hays <23writ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does begin to make me wonder….
> A friend offered me this a few years ago as he and his wife had new hybrid
> bikes.
> I was beginning to have few many bikes and said I’d see if I found anyone
> interested.
> He said it was a 1984:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/sets/72157650129619306/
> Not wanting to steal it but what’s it worth?
> Thanks.
> David Hays
> Kenmore, New York
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:
>
> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger
> sibling:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB <
> montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of
>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured
>> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)* $430,
>> which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>>
>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further...
>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a
>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but
>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if I
>> could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>>
>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork)
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>>
>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft.
>>> Collins.
>>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>>
>>> Dave Nawrocki
>>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>>
>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like
>>> those $100 water bottles:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-
>>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/
>>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>>
>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Bill Lindsay]

That's an INCREDIBLE collector.  I'm not a collector, and it's too small to 
be a rider, but dang, that's incredible.  Too many impressive details to 
list.  That one maybe should be on display, at least at one of these 
Specialized concept shops.  

On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-8, David Hays wrote:
>
> Does begin to make me wonder….
> A friend offered me this a few years ago as he and his wife had new hybrid 
> bikes.
> I was beginning to have few many bikes and said I’d see if I found anyone 
> interested.
> He said it was a 1984:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/sets/72157650129619306/
> Not wanting to steal it but what’s it worth?
> Thanks.
> David Hays
> Kenmore, New York
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Chris Chen > 
> wrote:
>
> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger 
> sibling:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB  > wrote:
>
>> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of 
>> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured 
>> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)* $430, 
>> which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>>
>> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further... 
>> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a 
>> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but 
>> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if I 
>> could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>>
>> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork) 
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>>
>>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft. 
>>> Collins.
>>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>>
>>> Dave Nawrocki
>>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>>
>>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like 
>>> those $100 water bottles:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-
>>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/
>>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>>
>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[David Hays]

Does begin to make me wonder….
A friend offered me this a few years ago as he and his wife had new hybrid 
bikes.
I was beginning to have few many bikes and said I’d see if I found anyone 
interested.
He said it was a 1984:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/sets/72157650129619306/ 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/sets/72157650129619306/>
Not wanting to steal it but what’s it worth?
Thanks.
David Hays
Kenmore, New York


> On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:
> 
> A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger sibling:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/ 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/>
> 
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB  <mailto:montclairbob...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of the 
> lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured 
> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for (only) $430, which 
> I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
> 
> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further... there's 
> another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a bi-plane fork 
> crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (serious but funny) reads "with 
> Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought WOW,... Now if I could only find an 
> original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...
> 
> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork) 
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
> 
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft. Collins.
> I have stood and stared at it.
> 
> Dave Nawrocki
> Ft. Collins, CO
> 
> From: "Chris Chen" >
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
> Subject: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
> 
> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like those 
> $100 water bottles:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>  
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d>
> 
> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
> 
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris Chen]

A totally different animal, but I just picked up its 10 year younger
sibling:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/16045975348/

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:

> I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of
> the lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured
> literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)* $430,
> which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.
>
> As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further...
> there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a
> bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but
> funny*) reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if I
> could only find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*
>
> Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork)
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>>
>> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
>> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft.
>> Collins.
>> I have stood and stared at it.
>>
>> Dave Nawrocki
>> Ft. Collins, CO
>>
>> ----------
>> *From: *"Chris Chen" 
>> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
>> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>>
>> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like
>> those $100 water bottles:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-
>> original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/
>> 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>>
>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Montclair BobbyB]

I recently chased a similar '82 Stumpy on eBay (first production run of the 
lugged version) that was in nice shape, all original, and manufactured 
literally 6 months after this TIG model.  But IT sold for *(only)* $430, 
which I thought was market price, and yet an excellent investment.

As if this isn't OT enough, I'm going to stray just a bit further... 
there's another early mountain bike on eBay (Univega Alpina Uno) with a 
bi-plane fork crown, (and a solid buy IMO) where the ad (*serious but funny*) 
reads "with Rivendell Style Fork").  I thought *WOW,... Now if I could only 
find an original '83 Rivendell in decent shape...*

Univega Alpina Uno (w/Riv Style Fork) 
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1983-Univega-Alpina-Uno-19-Steel-Mountain-Bike-Rivendell-Style-Fork-/231442108761?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item35e3065159>

On Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:44:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>
> As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it.
> It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft. 
> Collins.
> I have stood and stared at it.
>
> Dave Nawrocki
> Ft. Collins, CO
>
> --
> *From: *"Chris Chen" >
> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM
> *Subject: *[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
>
> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like 
> those $100 water bottles:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>
> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>
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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[nawrock]

As I was looking at this bike it occurred to me that i recognized it. 
It is way up high in the Lees cycle shop on Harmony road here in Ft. Collins. 
I have stood and stared at it. 

Dave Nawrocki 
Ft. Collins, CO 

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From: "Chris Chen"  
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:49:32 AM 
Subject: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow 

Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like those 
$100 water bottles: 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
 

I don't know whether to laugh or cry 

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[cyclotourist]

Hand-brazed by Mike Sinyard!

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chris Chen  wrote:

> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like
> those $100 water bottles:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>
> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
>
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[RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

[Chris Chen]

Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like
those $100 water bottles:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d

I don't know whether to laugh or cry

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[RBW] "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[kps]

I got my own "is that a ten-speed?" and "how old is it" question today about my 
Roadeo.  My bike was "parked" in my shop.  The guy was really nice, but he just 
thought my bike had to be older...I ended up telling him about Rivendell. :-) - 
k

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Re: [RBW] "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[David Faller]

I usually get compliments on how "pretty" my Ram is, probably because 
it's green and not black or white like the ubiquitous 
Specialized/Giant/Etc. bikes around here.  I recently was approached by 
a pair of women who were power walking and came up to me while I was 
resting.  They admired the bike for quite a while and said they hadn't 
seen anything like it, and had never heard of the "brand" (nor could 
they pronounce "Rambouillet").  They admittedly didn't know much about 
bikes, and one of them then went on to ask me, "Is the seat made of 
wood?" (it's a Brooks B-17 Champion Special - large oxidized copper 
rivets...)


Dave

On 9/30/2011 8:58 AM, Allan in Portland wrote:
Literally heard that last night in regards to my still-new-to-me AHH. 
Look, I know the tires are a little shabby, and the saddle doesn't fit 
the aesthetic (but it does fit me), but really, "that thing?"


:-) OK, as it was coming from a young 20-something on a crabon looking 
Scattante bike with skinny tires and not much else, I figured it was a 
compliment.


I should start a blog of unprompted comments Rivendells bring. So far, 
in less than 2 months I've had the usual "how old is it" on two 
different occasions. Some guy who looks like he doesn't ride bikes 
asked if I could go over 40 mph on it (was happy to show him the 
computer's max speed was currently recorded as 39.55). And not quite a 
comment, but the train rider in the seat next to me very conspicuously 
doing a web search on "A. Homer Hilsen" Not that I can blame any of 
them, (OK, I do hold it against the "how old is?" guys), it _is_ a 
great looking bike. In fact, as I often thing to myself, much better 
looking than it should considering it's built up almost entirely from 
second-hand accumulation.


And finally, something (IMO) so cliched (no offense intended) I 
thought I'd _never_ do, before, well..., getting my own put together, 
the flickr photo set 
.


Best regards & hats off to Grant P,
-Allan
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[RBW] "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Allan in Portland]

Literally heard that last night in regards to my still-new-to-me AHH. Look, 
I know the tires are a little shabby, and the saddle doesn't fit the 
aesthetic (but it does fit me), but really, "that thing?"

:-) OK, as it was coming from a young 20-something on a crabon looking 
Scattante bike with skinny tires and not much else, I figured it was a 
compliment.

I should start a blog of unprompted comments Rivendells bring. So far, in 
less than 2 months I've had the usual "how old is it" on two different 
occasions. Some guy who looks like he doesn't ride bikes asked if I could go 
over 40 mph on it (was happy to show him the computer's max speed was 
currently recorded as 39.55). And not quite a comment, but the train rider 
in the seat next to me very conspicuously doing a web search on "A. Homer 
Hilsen" Not that I can blame any of them, (OK, I do hold it against the "how 
old is?" guys), it _is_ a great looking bike. In fact, as I often thing to 
myself, much better looking than it should considering it's built up almost 
entirely from second-hand accumulation.

And finally, something (IMO) so cliched (no offense intended) I thought I'd 
_never_ do, before, well..., getting my own put together, the flickr photo 
set .

Best regards & hats off to Grant P,
-Allan

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[RBW] wow

[charlie]

Just loving the ride of my Simple One! I took my daughter on a local
ride and we had a great time. Sorry no photos of it (next time). If
any of you are riding the fence on a Simple One just get it, its a
great bicycle.

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Re: [RBW] Wow! There's an Atlantis under there somewhre

[Aaron Young]

Wow!  Those are the smallest front panniers I've ever seen! :)


Aaron Young
Rochester, NY where the rain soaked me to the bone on my commute home.



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[RBW] Wow! There's an Atlantis under there somewhre

[TomT]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4815789734/

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[RBW] WOW, speaking of handmade beauties...A 76 Eisentraut on Denver Craigs List

[jinxed]

No connection. Still tasty like bacon.

http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/1684954501.html

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[RBW] Wow, what a ride!

[David Estes]

Friend Jonathon took me out and showed me a gazillion trails around town.  A
26 miler, and I think 80% of it was on dirt!  Very cool.  Have to share it
w/ the good list-members, it was that kind of a ride!  Could have been even
longer and dirtier if I planned better, but not enough food.  The Bonks
didn't quite catch me, but they were nipping at my heels...

Route:  http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Trails-of-Redlands

Pics:  http://flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157611802280906/
H, a February ride


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