RE: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Maybe UV even affects bars?  From the next to last Blug: Nitto says any 
aluminum handlebar that's ten years old should be replaced. Aluminum degrades 
when it's exposed to the elements, and soyou also might not want to ride 
your twenty-five year old French handlebars that were made when there were mild 
standards if any to pass. The same for 20-year old Cinelli drop bars. It all 
depends.


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Subject: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

That's a good point, Jim.

I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used for 
daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now.
If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv owners) 
not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and cable housings 
get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I guess.

I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use my 
aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting UV 
defense too in the bargain.

-Pete in CT

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
Do any of these covers provide UV protection?  Is UV an issue for a leather 
saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors.  We are at 5600 feet 
here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer.   Where my bike is 
parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm definitely concerned about 
this as summer approaches.

Jim in Boulder

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote:
I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about
two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are
very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high
quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from
either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both.

 They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle.

On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
 know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
 plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
 stop the water spray well enough?

 Thanks
 JL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Jim
I wasn't, actually.

Jim in Boulder

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:14:08 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 UV??!! Saddles???!!! You are kidding, right?

 Patrick Moore, tanning his skin at 5,000+ feet in ABQ, NM.

 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
  That's a good point, Jim.
 
  I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used 
 for
  daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now.
  If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv
  owners) not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and 
 cable
  housings get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I 
 guess.
 
  I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use 
 my
  aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting 
 UV
  defense too in the bargain.
 
  -Pete in CT
 
  On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
 
  Do any of these covers provide UV protection?  Is UV an issue for a
  leather saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors.  We are 
 at
  5600 feet here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer.
  Where my bike is parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm 
 definitely
  concerned about this as summer approaches.
 
  Jim in Boulder
 
  On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote:
 
  I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about
  two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are
  very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high
  quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from
  either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both.
 
   They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle.
 
  On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
   What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
   know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
   plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
   stop the water spray well enough?
  
   Thanks
   JL
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Ryan Ray
There is no label on it but I believe it's most likely the smaller one. I 
picked the one the nice folks at FreeRange told me to pick.

- Ryan






On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:15:35 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote:

 ryan

 what size Serfas cover fits the B17, the standard SCB-1 or the hybrid 
 SCB-2?

 mike goldman

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Peter Pesce
Well for some if us who leave bikes locked up outside it IS an issue! Not while 
riding of course. 
I have a 15 minute commute/ 13 hour bike rack lock up/ 15 minute commute. The 
time this particular saddle spends without its ass hat is vastly greater than 
the time it is covered by me. Other bikes, maybe, not so much. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread cyclotourist
I like the one Brooks
sellshttp://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/spareparts/maintenance+products/Rain+Cover/.
Don't put too much stock in my opinion for wet-weather riding though, it
doesn't happen very frequently.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here in the tropics, the elastic on the Aardvarks gives up within
 months. The best cover I ever had was the Rivendell custom made that
 they no longer carry (because they need to order 300 at a time; bad
 for cash flow). Shall we see if we can get a group order going? I'll
 take 5...seriously.

 Gernot
 Thailand

 On Mar 27, 6:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
  On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 21:29 -1000, Robert F. Harrison wrote:
   I use one of the Aardvark covers from Riv these
   days.http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s91.htm
 
  I do, too.  It works well.
 
 
 
   I have a couple of actual Brooks covers but I generally don't use them
   if I have to be away from my bike because they clearly say Brooks on
   them.
 
  I have one of those, too.  It was never waterproof -- I fixed that by
  using a plastic bowl cover under it -- but the elastic stretched out and
  became useless after a few years.
 
   The Aardvark is cheap (but not shoddy), works great, and as it says in
   the promo, it disguises a fine leather saddle.
 
  And keeps it dry in the rain, too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
ryan
what size Serfas cover fits the B17, the standard SCB-1 or the hybrid SCB-2?
mike goldman
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
UV??!! Saddles???!!! You are kidding, right?

Patrick Moore, tanning his skin at 5,000+ feet in ABQ, NM.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a good point, Jim.

 I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used for
 daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now.
 If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv
 owners) not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and cable
 housings get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I guess.

 I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use my
 aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting UV
 defense too in the bargain.

 -Pete in CT

 On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:

 Do any of these covers provide UV protection?  Is UV an issue for a
 leather saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors.  We are at
 5600 feet here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer.
 Where my bike is parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm definitely
 concerned about this as summer approaches.

 Jim in Boulder

 On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote:

 I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about
 two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are
 very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high
 quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from
 either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both.

  They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle.

 On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
  What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
  know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
  plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
  stop the water spray well enough?
 
  Thanks
  JL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 18:14 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 UV??!! Saddles???!!! You are kidding, right?

Lends a whole new meaning to the term ass hat...



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