Re: [RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay
I nominate this the best thread of the year. All this detective work has been fun! Taylor - post some pictures when you get it, i missed the original auction, would be interesting to see. Bill On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: The Funkadelik Riv was a 52cm prototype made before we had our lugs. A pre-prototype, if there is such a thing. Or, a pre-pre... I got the invoice. It says (52cm prototype) and is dated 10-30-95. I am impressed that so many of you knew so many details history! (not that I'm worth impressing, just stating a fact) G On Jul 11, 5:20 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, very odd. Nothing about it says Rivendell except the decals, but JB wouldn't refinish a non-Riv with those decals would he? Doug On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM, trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.com wrote: Almost forgot http://tinyurl.com/2emhsfw - Forwarded Message *From:* trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sun, July 11, 2010 1:31:16 PM *Subject:* Odd small Riv on Ebay Simple lugs, Henry James crown, granted it is a small frame, but nothing on this bike says Riv to me accept the decals and badge, even the water bottle bosses seam oddly placed. Any thoughts? Trevor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 13:06 -0700, grant wrote: The Funkadelik Riv was a 52cm prototype made before we had our lugs. A pre-prototype, if there is such a thing. Or, a pre-pre... I got the invoice. It says (52cm prototype) and is dated 10-30-95. That would make it even rarer and more valuable, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay
Grant, thanks for closing the loop on that :^) I knew about the early Waterford bikes that went out with HJ crowns due to the redesign of the original RBW crown, my friend Phil had an early one for a while that actually had 2 forks, one with the RBW crown and one with the HJ). I didn't know there were geometry prototypes out there, but I guess it makes sense, unless they were destroyed or something... Doug On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:06 PM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: The Funkadelik Riv was a 52cm prototype made before we had our lugs. A pre-prototype, if there is such a thing. Or, a pre-pre... I got the invoice. It says (52cm prototype) and is dated 10-30-95. I am impressed that so many of you knew so many details history! (not that I'm worth impressing, just stating a fact) G On Jul 11, 5:20 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, very odd. Nothing about it says Rivendell except the decals, but JB wouldn't refinish a non-Riv with those decals would he? Doug On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM, trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.com wrote: Almost forgot http://tinyurl.com/2emhsfw - Forwarded Message *From:* trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sun, July 11, 2010 1:31:16 PM *Subject:* Odd small Riv on Ebay Simple lugs, Henry James crown, granted it is a small frame, but nothing on this bike says Riv to me accept the decals and badge, even the water bottle bosses seam oddly placed. Any thoughts? Trevor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay
They almost look like Bridgestone lugs. I wonder if the head lugs were abbreviated because of the bike's small size? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Angus Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:33 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay I agree with Doug, those lugs looks very simple for an early Rivendell. IIRC the Road Standards had the Richard Sachs designed lugs other models hand different, simplier (but not his simple?) lugs. Angus On 11 July, 23:16, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Joe, I agree about the paint but I don't recall ever seeing any Riv with plain lugs. There are/were early ones around that don't have the first RBW crown, as the initial testing revealed a flaw and some frames went out with HJ crowns. Even the early Rivs had the Sachs designed lugs to the best of my knowledge. Most curious... Doug On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: I hate to disagreewell, actually I kind of like to disagree. Anyway, if you look around, you'll find that there are plenty of early Rivs that have paint jobs that differ markedly from the current Riv aesthetic. I distinctly remember one that was sort of a limey green metallic with yell head tube and lugfill. And no, Joe Bell would never paint a non-Riv frame and then put Riv decals on it. Also, after the first paintjob, Grant/Riv no longer controls the paint job style choices so if it's a second paintjob, that would also explain the difference. I am a little confused by the poster not knowing the model, though. It would seem that any Riv owner would know that. Then again, an early Riv would likely not have had a model name as they started out kind of simply. It might have just been a road frame. Joe -- From: dvancl...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:20:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [RBW] Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I agree, very odd. Nothing about it says Rivendell except the decals, but JB wouldn't refinish a non-Riv with those decals would he? Doug On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM, trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.comwrote: Almost forgot http://tinyurl.com/2emhsfw - Forwarded Message *From:* trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sun, July 11, 2010 1:31:16 PM *Subject:* Odd small Riv on Ebay Simple lugs, Henry James crown, granted it is a small frame, but nothing on this bike says Riv to me accept the decals and badge, even the water bottle bosses seam oddly placed. Any thoughts? Trevor- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.