Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Edwin W]

I agree with @aeroperf: I always thought it was too hard to find the bikes! 

When you click the three bar menu, "Bicycles and Frames" are at the top: 
good! 
Now how would you look at the bikes? You have to click on that, read all of 
the descriptions, and then wade through a bunch of pictures: big ones of 
bikes, small ones of add ons, then there is another page of more, if you 
get there.
Maybe: a "+" sign next to Bicycles and Frames with each model listed there. 
I think the descriptions could go under some page called "design 
philosophy" or something. I know someone who wants to read everything about 
Riv would like to get into that, but I think most people looking for a bike 
would like to click on each model and look at them.

I am glad you all are working on it!

Thanks for running a great company,

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Jeffrey S]

I find the different sized photos to be really confusing to browse the 
products.

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 11:56:30 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the redesign. 
> Striding in the right direction :) 
>
> A few thoughts follow. 
>
> *Homepage photographs*
> I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs here. 
> And I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that sells 
> incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see the 
> frames. 
>
> *Product pages*
> I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better resolution. 
> A lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the old site. The 
> mouse-over function on the old version never worked for me. I find that the 
> huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and difficult to read. 
> Would it be possible to have a gallery of product pictures towards the top 
> with the text below, with the text running the full width of the page?
>
> *Category pages*
> I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were displayed in 
> a grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, allows the eye to 
> follow a straight line. 
>
> *Restock email alerts*
> Gotta have these alerts
>
> *Newly updated/added*
> Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
> restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate it. 
> I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But their 
> site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
> articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
> updates! 
>
> *Staff bikes*
> I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! Looking 
> forward to the return. 
>
> *Article page*
> This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for categories 
> with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into each 
> sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 
>
> *Sizing and geo page*
> The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my browser or 
> right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart displays at a 
> size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without user-end 
> manipulation. 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my Apple 
>> email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one thing 
>>> I noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and isn't 
>>> really legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves that 
>>> issue :) 
>>>
>>> The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Anthony Coffin]

Speaking as someone who does most of their browsing on the phone, the
updated mobile version is so much better. I can't believe how fast it is! I
love the clean look and it is so much easier to search and browse. As for
the desktop version, I'm kind of neutral on the changes. The desktop almost
looks too clean, but it's super fast and I find it easy enough to use at
first glance.

Thank you for all the work that has gone into this. I think it's going to
make my experiences on your sight so much more enjoyable.

Anthony Coffin
St Louis MO

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 9:30 AM Benjamin L. Kelley <
benjamin.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've noticed some other sites switching to this theme for their
> site/webstore. I find it hard to navigate to find things.
> My main complaint is it tends to merge the website and the webstore into a
> seamless amalgamation of "site" and I can't tell whether I'm going to be
> reading an article/page or looking at a product.
> I prefer separate more defined experiences. But that's just how I use
> websites and shop.Ever walk into a store and think, is this a store or
> someone's house? That's the kinda vibe this style of theme gives me.
> That being said, I'll still use it if I have to.
> Just my $0.02
>
> --ben
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:49 AM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> If you use the more common term “brake pads,” the Kool Stops pop right up
>> as the first result.
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021, 'islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was a webmaster (of sorts) for a while, so I know how tough it can be
>>> to redesign a page or site.  Thanks for your work.   I took a quick look
>>> around the site just now.   I don't mind the general look, but the search
>>> function, in particular, needs looking at.  I went to "Brakes" and searched
>>> for brake shoes.  It came back with a few products, including whole
>>> brakes.  I know that you carry Kool Stop shoes, because I just looked at
>>> them recently.  But no Kool Stop came back with the first search.  When I
>>> just searched "Kool Stop", I got the Kool Stop products.  So this is not
>>> good.  I would prefer that there be subcategories, i.e. click on Brakes,
>>> then get another menu for the various items people might search for
>>> pertaining to Brakes.  I hope these comments are helpful.  Cheers, Steve
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:54:02 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 My first desktop impression in navigating it is "awkward".  Some large
 images, some small. 2 columns only, lots of empty white space. On product
 pages the product detail font is oddly small/compressed/faint in relation
 to the title font and large images. I find it an awkward .


 I prefer seeing more items on one page, utilizing the available space
 with content, not plain white background. I can see plain white background
 anywhere.

 The 3 bar thing for desktop websites is to me not a good look or
 function. It seems as web design and function professes to
 progress/improve/evolve, it does the very opposite. It's like jumping out
 the bedroom window and walking around the block to get to the kitchen.

 "Just the facts"  ... so to speak.


 On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com
> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage,
> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother
> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on
> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have
> one site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just
> head to the homepage.
>
> Enjoy and let us know what you think.
>
> Dave Schonenberg
>
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[greenteadrinkers]

Sure, I'm not throwing shade, I love Riv, just my initial reaction.

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The home page has a rotating set of pics of people working on or riding 
> Rivbikes in normal clothes. The mission statement of the company is below 
> this. I think it is sufficiently explanatory and inclusive. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:13:12 PM UTC-8 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> ... not to say that Riv needs to stuck in tweed. Brands evolve.
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> I totally get this is in process. My initial thoughts seem to be that 
>>> the "brand" is a bit missing from the site, or maybe it's a bit scattered 
>>> and broken up. The converted get it and know it and will put up with 
>>> anything because they love it. But those outside have to dig, thus it's not 
>>> doing a great job selling the Riv lifestyle. Thinking back to the mid-00's 
>>> the site had tweed all over the place, yeah heavy-handed, but it did a 
>>> great job communicating a visual language that translated into a lifestyle 
>>> and in the process helped reinvent cycling and the culture of cycling. 
>>> Right now, I have to dig to see or hear that story, I have to dig to be 
>>> sold that story. When I arrive at the home page I get is a full-frame image 
>>> of a middle-aged white dude fixing a flat. Cool shot for sure, but not very 
>>> inclusive. You don't want new customers to have to dig.
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:53:19 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>>
 Ah, I see I missed the sidebar.  That's better!


 On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:50:16 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Is it just me, or does anyone else think that with a store that sells 
> bicycles, you should be able to get to the bicycles with one click from 
> whatever the default page is?
> Now: rivbike.com, scroll, scroll, scroll to the bottom, Product 
> Catalog, Bicycles & Frames...  
>
> Agree with Staff Bikes comment and Restock email alerts.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:56:30 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the 
>> redesign. Striding in the right direction :) 
>>
>> A few thoughts follow. 
>>
>> *Homepage photographs*
>> I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs 
>> here. And I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that 
>> sells incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see 
>> the 
>> frames. 
>>
>> *Product pages*
>> I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better 
>> resolution. A lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the 
>> old site. The mouse-over function on the old version never worked for 
>> me. I 
>> find that the huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and 
>> difficult to read. Would it be possible to have a gallery of product 
>> pictures towards the top with the text below, with the text running the 
>> full width of the page?
>>
>> *Category pages*
>> I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were 
>> displayed in a grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, 
>> allows the eye to follow a straight line. 
>>
>> *Restock email alerts*
>> Gotta have these alerts
>>
>> *Newly updated/added*
>> Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
>> restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate 
>> it. 
>> I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But 
>> their 
>> site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
>> articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
>> updates! 
>>
>> *Staff bikes*
>> I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! 
>> Looking forward to the return. 
>>
>> *Article page*
>> This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for 
>> categories with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into 
>> each sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 
>>
>> *Sizing and geo page*
>> The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my 
>> browser or right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart 
>> displays at a size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without 
>> user-end manipulation. 
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my 
>>> Apple email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder 
>>> either
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 I'll spend some ti

Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Joe Bernard]

The home page has a rotating set of pics of people working on or riding 
Rivbikes in normal clothes. The mission statement of the company is below 
this. I think it is sufficiently explanatory and inclusive. 



On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:13:12 PM UTC-8 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> ... not to say that Riv needs to stuck in tweed. Brands evolve.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> I totally get this is in process. My initial thoughts seem to be that the 
>> "brand" is a bit missing from the site, or maybe it's a bit scattered and 
>> broken up. The converted get it and know it and will put up with anything 
>> because they love it. But those outside have to dig, thus it's not doing a 
>> great job selling the Riv lifestyle. Thinking back to the mid-00's the site 
>> had tweed all over the place, yeah heavy-handed, but it did a great job 
>> communicating a visual language that translated into a lifestyle and in the 
>> process helped reinvent cycling and the culture of cycling. Right now, I 
>> have to dig to see or hear that story, I have to dig to be sold that story. 
>> When I arrive at the home page I get is a full-frame image of a middle-aged 
>> white dude fixing a flat. Cool shot for sure, but not very inclusive. You 
>> don't want new customers to have to dig.
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:53:19 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, I see I missed the sidebar.  That's better!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:50:16 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>>
 Is it just me, or does anyone else think that with a store that sells 
 bicycles, you should be able to get to the bicycles with one click from 
 whatever the default page is?
 Now: rivbike.com, scroll, scroll, scroll to the bottom, Product 
 Catalog, Bicycles & Frames...  

 Agree with Staff Bikes comment and Restock email alerts.

 On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:56:30 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the 
> redesign. Striding in the right direction :) 
>
> A few thoughts follow. 
>
> *Homepage photographs*
> I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs 
> here. And I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that 
> sells incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see 
> the 
> frames. 
>
> *Product pages*
> I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better 
> resolution. A lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the 
> old site. The mouse-over function on the old version never worked for me. 
> I 
> find that the huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and 
> difficult to read. Would it be possible to have a gallery of product 
> pictures towards the top with the text below, with the text running the 
> full width of the page?
>
> *Category pages*
> I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were displayed 
> in a grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, allows the 
> eye 
> to follow a straight line. 
>
> *Restock email alerts*
> Gotta have these alerts
>
> *Newly updated/added*
> Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
> restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate 
> it. 
> I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But 
> their 
> site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
> articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
> updates! 
>
> *Staff bikes*
> I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! 
> Looking forward to the return. 
>
> *Article page*
> This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for 
> categories with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into 
> each sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 
>
> *Sizing and geo page*
> The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my 
> browser or right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart 
> displays at a size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without 
> user-end manipulation. 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my 
>> Apple email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder 
>> either
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one 
>>> thing I noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and 
>>> isn't really legible - though right-click and open in a new window 
>>> solves 
>>> that issue 

Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[greenteadrinkers]

... not to say that Riv needs to stuck in tweed. Brands evolve.

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> I totally get this is in process. My initial thoughts seem to be that the 
> "brand" is a bit missing from the site, or maybe it's a bit scattered and 
> broken up. The converted get it and know it and will put up with anything 
> because they love it. But those outside have to dig, thus it's not doing a 
> great job selling the Riv lifestyle. Thinking back to the mid-00's the site 
> had tweed all over the place, yeah heavy-handed, but it did a great job 
> communicating a visual language that translated into a lifestyle and in the 
> process helped reinvent cycling and the culture of cycling. Right now, I 
> have to dig to see or hear that story, I have to dig to be sold that story. 
> When I arrive at the home page I get is a full-frame image of a middle-aged 
> white dude fixing a flat. Cool shot for sure, but not very inclusive. You 
> don't want new customers to have to dig.
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:53:19 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> Ah, I see I missed the sidebar.  That's better!
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:50:16 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> Is it just me, or does anyone else think that with a store that sells 
>>> bicycles, you should be able to get to the bicycles with one click from 
>>> whatever the default page is?
>>> Now: rivbike.com, scroll, scroll, scroll to the bottom, Product 
>>> Catalog, Bicycles & Frames...  
>>>
>>> Agree with Staff Bikes comment and Restock email alerts.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:56:30 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the 
 redesign. Striding in the right direction :) 

 A few thoughts follow. 

 *Homepage photographs*
 I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs here. 
 And I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that sells 
 incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see the 
 frames. 

 *Product pages*
 I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better 
 resolution. A lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the 
 old site. The mouse-over function on the old version never worked for me. 
 I 
 find that the huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and 
 difficult to read. Would it be possible to have a gallery of product 
 pictures towards the top with the text below, with the text running the 
 full width of the page?

 *Category pages*
 I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were displayed 
 in a grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, allows the eye 
 to follow a straight line. 

 *Restock email alerts*
 Gotta have these alerts

 *Newly updated/added*
 Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
 restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate 
 it. 
 I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But 
 their 
 site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
 articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
 updates! 

 *Staff bikes*
 I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! 
 Looking forward to the return. 

 *Article page*
 This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for 
 categories with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into 
 each sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 

 *Sizing and geo page*
 The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my browser 
 or right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart displays 
 at 
 a size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without user-end 
 manipulation. 
 On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:

> On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my 
> Apple email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one 
>> thing I noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and 
>> isn't really legible - though right-click and open in a new window 
>> solves 
>> that issue :) 
>>
>> The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[greenteadrinkers]

I totally get this is in process. My initial thoughts seem to be that the 
"brand" is a bit missing from the site, or maybe it's a bit scattered and 
broken up. The converted get it and know it and will put up with anything 
because they love it. But those outside have to dig, thus it's not doing a 
great job selling the Riv lifestyle. Thinking back to the mid-00's the site 
had tweed all over the place, yeah heavy-handed, but it did a great job 
communicating a visual language that translated into a lifestyle and in the 
process helped reinvent cycling and the culture of cycling. Right now, I 
have to dig to see or hear that story, I have to dig to be sold that story. 
When I arrive at the home page I get is a full-frame image of a middle-aged 
white dude fixing a flat. Cool shot for sure, but not very inclusive. You 
don't want new customers to have to dig.
On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:53:19 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Ah, I see I missed the sidebar.  That's better!
>
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:50:16 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> Is it just me, or does anyone else think that with a store that sells 
>> bicycles, you should be able to get to the bicycles with one click from 
>> whatever the default page is?
>> Now: rivbike.com, scroll, scroll, scroll to the bottom, Product Catalog, 
>> Bicycles & Frames...  
>>
>> Agree with Staff Bikes comment and Restock email alerts.
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:56:30 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the redesign. 
>>> Striding in the right direction :) 
>>>
>>> A few thoughts follow. 
>>>
>>> *Homepage photographs*
>>> I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs here. 
>>> And I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that sells 
>>> incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see the 
>>> frames. 
>>>
>>> *Product pages*
>>> I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better 
>>> resolution. A lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the 
>>> old site. The mouse-over function on the old version never worked for me. I 
>>> find that the huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and 
>>> difficult to read. Would it be possible to have a gallery of product 
>>> pictures towards the top with the text below, with the text running the 
>>> full width of the page?
>>>
>>> *Category pages*
>>> I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were displayed 
>>> in a grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, allows the eye 
>>> to follow a straight line. 
>>>
>>> *Restock email alerts*
>>> Gotta have these alerts
>>>
>>> *Newly updated/added*
>>> Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
>>> restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate it. 
>>> I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But their 
>>> site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
>>> articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
>>> updates! 
>>>
>>> *Staff bikes*
>>> I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! 
>>> Looking forward to the return. 
>>>
>>> *Article page*
>>> This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for 
>>> categories with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into 
>>> each sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 
>>>
>>> *Sizing and geo page*
>>> The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my browser 
>>> or right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart displays at 
>>> a size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without user-end 
>>> manipulation. 
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>
 On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my 
 Apple email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either

 On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one 
> thing I noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and 
> isn't really legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves 
> that issue :) 
>
> The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 



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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[aeroperf]

Ah, I see I missed the sidebar.  That's better!


On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 3:50:16 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Is it just me, or does anyone else think that with a store that sells 
> bicycles, you should be able to get to the bicycles with one click from 
> whatever the default page is?
> Now: rivbike.com, scroll, scroll, scroll to the bottom, Product Catalog, 
> Bicycles & Frames...  
>
> Agree with Staff Bikes comment and Restock email alerts.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:56:30 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the redesign. 
>> Striding in the right direction :) 
>>
>> A few thoughts follow. 
>>
>> *Homepage photographs*
>> I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs here. 
>> And I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that sells 
>> incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see the 
>> frames. 
>>
>> *Product pages*
>> I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better resolution. 
>> A lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the old site. The 
>> mouse-over function on the old version never worked for me. I find that the 
>> huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and difficult to read. 
>> Would it be possible to have a gallery of product pictures towards the top 
>> with the text below, with the text running the full width of the page?
>>
>> *Category pages*
>> I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were displayed in 
>> a grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, allows the eye to 
>> follow a straight line. 
>>
>> *Restock email alerts*
>> Gotta have these alerts
>>
>> *Newly updated/added*
>> Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
>> restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate it. 
>> I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But their 
>> site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
>> articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
>> updates! 
>>
>> *Staff bikes*
>> I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! 
>> Looking forward to the return. 
>>
>> *Article page*
>> This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for 
>> categories with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into 
>> each sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 
>>
>> *Sizing and geo page*
>> The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my browser 
>> or right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart displays at 
>> a size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without user-end 
>> manipulation. 
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my 
>>> Apple email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one thing 
 I noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and isn't 
 really legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves that 
 issue :) 

 The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[aeroperf]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that with a store that sells 
bicycles, you should be able to get to the bicycles with one click from 
whatever the default page is?
Now: rivbike.com, scroll, scroll, scroll to the bottom, Product Catalog, 
Bicycles & Frames...  

Agree with Staff Bikes comment and Restock email alerts.

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:56:30 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the redesign. 
> Striding in the right direction :) 
>
> A few thoughts follow. 
>
> *Homepage photographs*
> I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs here. 
> And I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that sells 
> incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see the 
> frames. 
>
> *Product pages*
> I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better resolution. 
> A lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the old site. The 
> mouse-over function on the old version never worked for me. I find that the 
> huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and difficult to read. 
> Would it be possible to have a gallery of product pictures towards the top 
> with the text below, with the text running the full width of the page?
>
> *Category pages*
> I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were displayed in 
> a grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, allows the eye to 
> follow a straight line. 
>
> *Restock email alerts*
> Gotta have these alerts
>
> *Newly updated/added*
> Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
> restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate it. 
> I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But their 
> site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
> articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
> updates! 
>
> *Staff bikes*
> I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! Looking 
> forward to the return. 
>
> *Article page*
> This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for categories 
> with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into each 
> sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 
>
> *Sizing and geo page*
> The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my browser or 
> right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart displays at a 
> size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without user-end 
> manipulation. 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my Apple 
>> email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one thing 
>>> I noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and isn't 
>>> really legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves that 
>>> issue :) 
>>>
>>> The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the redesign. 
Striding in the right direction :) 

A few thoughts follow. 

*Homepage photographs*
I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs here. And 
I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that sells 
incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see the 
frames. 

*Product pages*
I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better resolution. A 
lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the old site. The 
mouse-over function on the old version never worked for me. I find that the 
huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and difficult to read. 
Would it be possible to have a gallery of product pictures towards the top 
with the text below, with the text running the full width of the page?

*Category pages*
I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were displayed in a 
grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, allows the eye to 
follow a straight line. 

*Restock email alerts*
Gotta have these alerts

*Newly updated/added*
Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate it. 
I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But their 
site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
updates! 

*Staff bikes*
I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! Looking 
forward to the return. 

*Article page*
This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for categories 
with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into each 
sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 

*Sizing and geo page*
The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my browser or 
right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart displays at a 
size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without user-end 
manipulation. 
On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:

> On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my Apple 
> email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one thing I 
>> noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and isn't really 
>> legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves that issue :) 
>>
>> The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Dorothy C]

On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my Apple 
email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one thing I 
> noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and isn't really 
> legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves that issue :) 
>
> The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Jason Fuller]

I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one thing I 
noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and isn't really 
legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves that issue :) 

The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Julian Westerhout]

The navigation is a bit tricky --  the three bar menu shortcut is sort of 
semi-standard on phone apps, but not so much on websites. It took me a bit 
before I figured it out. I asked my wife to look at the page and to find 
the navigation menu -- she scrolled and looked for a bit, then said "there 
isn't one."  Had she scrolled all the way down she might have seen the 
links, or perhaps if the three bars stayed pegged to the top of the page 
she might have noticed them, but as it is she did not -- it takes some 
savvy and of persistence -- not sure that's the goal.  It's more minimal on 
the landing page, but less obvious and less user friendly IMHO. It is, on 
the other hand, appears to be trying to be trendy and "hip" -- which, 
ironically, seems antithetical to the position of Riv as a company.  YMMV 
-- I'm just a grumpy middle-aged guy in the frozen tundra of the midwest, 
so...

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL  
On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 11:44:39 AM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> As a film shooter, I appreciate the obvious use of analog photographs on 
> the home page. Nice!
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Feb 12, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Paul Richardson  wrote:
>
> i for one made frequent use of the 'email me when this item is back in 
> stock' option and would very much appreciate if that returned.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 11:50:44 AM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> I like being able to see my whole purchase history in my account, via the 
>> page number scroller. I think the old site used to cut off at about 1 
>> year’s worth of transactions
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 8:16:22 AM UTC-8 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> I like the new look. Great to see Leah's excellently appointed Platypus 
>>> build up on the new news section. It would be nice if you could click on an 
>>> image to expand it. I like being able to check out all the little details 
>>> on people's bikes.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:00:43 AM UTC-6 Mark Roland wrote:
>>>


 Looking good.  Regarding the sub categories, which indeed can be 
 helpful, if you open the "3-bar" menu, you get the drop down major 
 categories--Parts, Gear, Garage Sale, etc. By clicking the "+" sign next 
 to 
 a main category, you get subcategories--eg, under Parts, you get Bottom 
 Brackets, Brakes, Cassettes, Etc. If you click on brakes, you get the 
 whole 
 shebang, blended together--calipers, levers, pads, cables--all 
 intermingled 
 with willy and nilly.  BUT, if you click directly on the word "Parts" 
 instead of the "+", you get taken to the Catalog, which breaks down brakes 
 into: Brake types, brake hardware, etc. (The catalog also appears to the 
 right of the drop down main, but is cut off, at least on my laptop.) Would 
 there be a way for that click on Parts to bring you to exclusively that 
 "catalog style" menu JUST for parts? 

 Two sections that could use a further "+" or submenu IMO would be 
 brakes and handlebars. 

 It's not an easy task to develop a logical taxonomy for web site 
 navigation. Multiple pathways and redundancies are good, but can sometimes 
 be confusing when different pathways use different nomenclature, or when 
 it's not clear where exactly you are.  The ultimate is to have a visitor 
 who finds what they are seeking in two or three easy no-brainer clicks.

 I imagine some further refinement and tweaking could be a benefit. 
 Meanwhile, totally useable as is.
 On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:

> Hi Everyone, 
>
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have 
> one site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just 
> head to the homepage.
>
> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>
> Dave Schonenberg
>
>
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

As a film shooter, I appreciate the obvious use of analog photographs on the 
home page. Nice!

--Eric Norris
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> On Feb 12, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Paul Richardson  wrote:
> 
> i for one made frequent use of the 'email me when this item is back in stock' 
> option and would very much appreciate if that returned.
> 
> paul
> takoma park, md.
> 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 11:50:44 AM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
> I like being able to see my whole purchase history in my account, via the 
> page number scroller. I think the old site used to cut off at about 1 year’s 
> worth of transactions
> 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 8:16:22 AM UTC-8 Tim Baldwin wrote:
> I like the new look. Great to see Leah's excellently appointed Platypus build 
> up on the new news section. It would be nice if you could click on an image 
> to expand it. I like being able to check out all the little details on 
> people's bikes.
> 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:00:43 AM UTC-6 Mark Roland wrote:
> 
> 
> Looking good.  Regarding the sub categories, which indeed can be helpful, if 
> you open the "3-bar" menu, you get the drop down major categories--Parts, 
> Gear, Garage Sale, etc. By clicking the "+" sign next to a main category, you 
> get subcategories--eg, under Parts, you get Bottom Brackets, Brakes, 
> Cassettes, Etc. If you click on brakes, you get the whole shebang, blended 
> together--calipers, levers, pads, cables--all intermingled with willy and 
> nilly.  BUT, if you click directly on the word "Parts" instead of the "+", 
> you get taken to the Catalog, which breaks down brakes into: Brake types, 
> brake hardware, etc. (The catalog also appears to the right of the drop down 
> main, but is cut off, at least on my laptop.) Would there be a way for that 
> click on Parts to bring you to exclusively that "catalog style" menu JUST for 
> parts? 
> 
> Two sections that could use a further "+" or submenu IMO would be brakes and 
> handlebars. 
> 
> It's not an easy task to develop a logical taxonomy for web site navigation. 
> Multiple pathways and redundancies are good, but can sometimes be confusing 
> when different pathways use different nomenclature, or when it's not clear 
> where exactly you are.  The ultimate is to have a visitor who finds what they 
> are seeking in two or three easy no-brainer clicks.
> 
> I imagine some further refinement and tweaking could be a benefit. Meanwhile, 
> totally useable as is.
> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:
> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
>  webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up 
> the homepage, improved the search, and updated a number of things for a 
> smoother experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
> 
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on Tumblr 
> ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com  to 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news .   
> With that move, you now have one site for all the latest product updates, 
> news and Grant's blog. Just head to the homepage.
> 
> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
> 
> Dave Schonenberg
> 
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Andrew Turner]

Love it! I think the home page for a lot of sites is underutilized, and 
giving it a sorta brick and mortar shop vibe is a clever approach since 
you're always first greeted with what's new...not sure what the confusion 
is since the navigation is pretty much identical. I also dig the oversized 
bounding boxes for sale items, I don't think I've ever seen that but it's a 
nice tone on tone, and a smart work-around versus having to take all new 
photographs of items on same/complementing backgrounds kinda like what 
Crust did with the color backdrops.  

Thumbs up, 
Andrew
On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 9:30:50 AM UTC-6 Benjamin Kelley wrote:

> I've noticed some other sites switching to this theme for their 
> site/webstore. I find it hard to navigate to find things.
> My main complaint is it tends to merge the website and the webstore into a 
> seamless amalgamation of "site" and I can't tell whether I'm going to be 
> reading an article/page or looking at a product.
> I prefer separate more defined experiences. But that's just how I use 
> websites and shop.Ever walk into a store and think, is this a store or 
> someone's house? That's the kinda vibe this style of theme gives me.
> That being said, I'll still use it if I have to.
> Just my $0.02
>
> --ben
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:49 AM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> If you use the more common term “brake pads,” the Kool Stops pop right up 
>> as the first result. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021, 'islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
> I was a webmaster (of sorts) for a while, so I know how tough it can be to 
>>> redesign a page or site.  Thanks for your work.   I took a quick look 
>>> around the site just now.   I don't mind the general look, but the search 
>>> function, in particular, needs looking at.  I went to "Brakes" and searched 
>>> for brake shoes.  It came back with a few products, including whole 
>>> brakes.  I know that you carry Kool Stop shoes, because I just looked at 
>>> them recently.  But no Kool Stop came back with the first search.  When I 
>>> just searched "Kool Stop", I got the Kool Stop products.  So this is not 
>>> good.  I would prefer that there be subcategories, i.e. click on Brakes, 
>>> then get another menu for the various items people might search for 
>>> pertaining to Brakes.  I hope these comments are helpful.  Cheers, Steve
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:54:02 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 My first desktop impression in navigating it is "awkward".  Some large 
 images, some small. 2 columns only, lots of empty white space. On product 
 pages the product detail font is oddly small/compressed/faint in relation 
 to the title font and large images. I find it an awkward . 


 I prefer seeing more items on one page, utilizing the available space 
 with content, not plain white background. I can see plain white background 
 anywhere. 

 The 3 bar thing for desktop websites is to me not a good look or 
 function. It seems as web design and function professes to 
 progress/improve/evolve, it does the very opposite. It's like jumping out 
 the bedroom window and walking around the block to get to the kitchen. 

 "Just the facts"  ... so to speak. 


 On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:

> Hi Everyone, 
>
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have 
> one site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just 
> head to the homepage.
>
> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>
> Dave Schonenberg
>
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Dave]

Thoughtful input! We considered changing around the navigation to a more 
stark "Shop" & "Learn" format, but left the navigation exactly as it was on 
the previous site. The reason was that there would be no learning curve for 
customers accustomed to the old way... for now. Finding stuff should be 
familiar, but yes, we are working on improving that. 

Stay tuned for more changes. We're on the same wavelength. I'll take your 
two cents thanks!

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 7:30:50 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley wrote:

> I've noticed some other sites switching to this theme for their 
> site/webstore. I find it hard to navigate to find things.
> My main complaint is it tends to merge the website and the webstore into a 
> seamless amalgamation of "site" and I can't tell whether I'm going to be 
> reading an article/page or looking at a product.
> I prefer separate more defined experiences. But that's just how I use 
> websites and shop.Ever walk into a store and think, is this a store or 
> someone's house? That's the kinda vibe this style of theme gives me.
> That being said, I'll still use it if I have to.
> Just my $0.02
>
> --ben
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:49 AM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> If you use the more common term “brake pads,” the Kool Stops pop right up 
>> as the first result. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021, 'islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
> I was a webmaster (of sorts) for a while, so I know how tough it can be to 
>>> redesign a page or site.  Thanks for your work.   I took a quick look 
>>> around the site just now.   I don't mind the general look, but the search 
>>> function, in particular, needs looking at.  I went to "Brakes" and searched 
>>> for brake shoes.  It came back with a few products, including whole 
>>> brakes.  I know that you carry Kool Stop shoes, because I just looked at 
>>> them recently.  But no Kool Stop came back with the first search.  When I 
>>> just searched "Kool Stop", I got the Kool Stop products.  So this is not 
>>> good.  I would prefer that there be subcategories, i.e. click on Brakes, 
>>> then get another menu for the various items people might search for 
>>> pertaining to Brakes.  I hope these comments are helpful.  Cheers, Steve
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:54:02 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 My first desktop impression in navigating it is "awkward".  Some large 
 images, some small. 2 columns only, lots of empty white space. On product 
 pages the product detail font is oddly small/compressed/faint in relation 
 to the title font and large images. I find it an awkward . 


 I prefer seeing more items on one page, utilizing the available space 
 with content, not plain white background. I can see plain white background 
 anywhere. 

 The 3 bar thing for desktop websites is to me not a good look or 
 function. It seems as web design and function professes to 
 progress/improve/evolve, it does the very opposite. It's like jumping out 
 the bedroom window and walking around the block to get to the kitchen. 

 "Just the facts"  ... so to speak. 


 On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:

> Hi Everyone, 
>
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have 
> one site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just 
> head to the homepage.
>
> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>
> Dave Schonenberg
>
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I've noticed some other sites switching to this theme for their
site/webstore. I find it hard to navigate to find things.
My main complaint is it tends to merge the website and the webstore into a
seamless amalgamation of "site" and I can't tell whether I'm going to be
reading an article/page or looking at a product.
I prefer separate more defined experiences. But that's just how I use
websites and shop.Ever walk into a store and think, is this a store or
someone's house? That's the kinda vibe this style of theme gives me.
That being said, I'll still use it if I have to.
Just my $0.02

--ben

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:49 AM Eric Daume  wrote:

> If you use the more common term “brake pads,” the Kool Stops pop right up
> as the first result.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021, 'islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I was a webmaster (of sorts) for a while, so I know how tough it can be
>> to redesign a page or site.  Thanks for your work.   I took a quick look
>> around the site just now.   I don't mind the general look, but the search
>> function, in particular, needs looking at.  I went to "Brakes" and searched
>> for brake shoes.  It came back with a few products, including whole
>> brakes.  I know that you carry Kool Stop shoes, because I just looked at
>> them recently.  But no Kool Stop came back with the first search.  When I
>> just searched "Kool Stop", I got the Kool Stop products.  So this is not
>> good.  I would prefer that there be subcategories, i.e. click on Brakes,
>> then get another menu for the various items people might search for
>> pertaining to Brakes.  I hope these comments are helpful.  Cheers, Steve
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:54:02 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> My first desktop impression in navigating it is "awkward".  Some large
>>> images, some small. 2 columns only, lots of empty white space. On product
>>> pages the product detail font is oddly small/compressed/faint in relation
>>> to the title font and large images. I find it an awkward .
>>>
>>>
>>> I prefer seeing more items on one page, utilizing the available space
>>> with content, not plain white background. I can see plain white background
>>> anywhere.
>>>
>>> The 3 bar thing for desktop websites is to me not a good look or
>>> function. It seems as web design and function professes to
>>> progress/improve/evolve, it does the very opposite. It's like jumping out
>>> the bedroom window and walking around the block to get to the kitchen.
>>>
>>> "Just the facts"  ... so to speak.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone,

 Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com
 webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage,
 improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother
 experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!

 The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on
 Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one
 site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head
 to the homepage.

 Enjoy and let us know what you think.

 Dave Schonenberg

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Eric Daume]

If you use the more common term “brake pads,” the Kool Stops pop right up
as the first result.

On Friday, February 12, 2021, 'islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I was a webmaster (of sorts) for a while, so I know how tough it can be to
> redesign a page or site.  Thanks for your work.   I took a quick look
> around the site just now.   I don't mind the general look, but the search
> function, in particular, needs looking at.  I went to "Brakes" and searched
> for brake shoes.  It came back with a few products, including whole
> brakes.  I know that you carry Kool Stop shoes, because I just looked at
> them recently.  But no Kool Stop came back with the first search.  When I
> just searched "Kool Stop", I got the Kool Stop products.  So this is not
> good.  I would prefer that there be subcategories, i.e. click on Brakes,
> then get another menu for the various items people might search for
> pertaining to Brakes.  I hope these comments are helpful.  Cheers, Steve
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:54:02 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> My first desktop impression in navigating it is "awkward".  Some large
>> images, some small. 2 columns only, lots of empty white space. On product
>> pages the product detail font is oddly small/compressed/faint in relation
>> to the title font and large images. I find it an awkward .
>>
>>
>> I prefer seeing more items on one page, utilizing the available space
>> with content, not plain white background. I can see plain white background
>> anywhere.
>>
>> The 3 bar thing for desktop websites is to me not a good look or
>> function. It seems as web design and function professes to
>> progress/improve/evolve, it does the very opposite. It's like jumping out
>> the bedroom window and walking around the block to get to the kitchen.
>>
>> "Just the facts"  ... so to speak.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com
>>> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage,
>>> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother
>>> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>>>
>>> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on
>>> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one
>>> site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head
>>> to the homepage.
>>>
>>> Enjoy and let us know what you think.
>>>
>>> Dave Schonenberg
>>>
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