Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
Kelly: late to the table, but the SON should not make any material difference in your paceline. I *think* I can tell the difference between the Shimano DH D72 on the Fargo when it is "on" and when it is "off", at least when I am grunting along on dirt with the very heavy Big Apple wheelset and am feeling tired ('cause I didn't warm up properly), but I suspect that this difference exists in my mind rather than in my legs. Compared to the DH D72 wheel, the SON 20 wheel (ie, with the earlier Deluxe made for small wheels) spins even longer, even with (1) small-radius, (2) very light rim+tire wheel compared to the 700CX60+ of the Fargo. So, per me, the short answer is "no". I fully admit that my purchase of the SON wheel (for '03 Curt) was a vanity purchase, but I don't have regrets. Those hubs are jewelry. (If you get a SON, you can't do otherwise than buy an expensive Edeluxe lamp.) On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Kelly wrote: > > I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and to a > point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides. (note that > a part of this build is for aesthetics. Thus the nice silver stuff and > classic look (hopefully) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
I ordered a B&M Luxos dyno light that should come before year end. Unfortunately I snapped my IQ Cyo off the mount in a minor spill :(. Well, the new light has a wider beam and more illumination, so I'm very hopeful that it will do everything I want. It might not be as good jewelry though :). Toshi On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:30 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I fully admit that my purchase of the SON wheel (for '03 Curt) was a > vanity purchase, but I don't have regrets. Those hubs are jewelry. (If > you get a SON, you can't do otherwise than buy an expensive Edeluxe > lamp.) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
Hi Toshi, Does your Cyo still work? I want to try to put one inside an old French headlight housing, so if you just snapped off the mount, I'd be interested in buying it from you. Cheers, Alex On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:38:12 PM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: > > I ordered a B&M Luxos dyno light that should come before year end. > Unfortunately I snapped my IQ Cyo off the mount in a minor spill :(. > Well, the new light has a wider beam and more illumination, so I'm > very hopeful that it will do everything I want. It might not be as > good jewelry though :). > > Toshi > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:30 PM, PATRICK MOORE > > > wrote: > > > I fully admit that my purchase of the SON wheel (for '03 Curt) was a > > vanity purchase, but I don't have regrets. Those hubs are jewelry. (If > > you get a SON, you can't do otherwise than buy an expensive Edeluxe > > lamp.) > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/09_Tljpph8wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
Patrick I ended up,ordering a SON Delux. Tonight I put the SP PV-8 on and did a quick mounting of the super nova version 2 with the brighter 3 led tail light. I didn't feel any drag there either and at was after a ride on a Phil front before the switch. The PV-8 has been a plesant surprise.The super nova is bright with a big beam, but my edelux in my opinion puts more light were I want it. The tail light is bright but the twin line or brake plus are still my favorites. So overall to me the supernova system is a disappointment.Looks good though, and I own it so I better get over the disappointment. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2cY4SKdXjBAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
*I want to try to put one inside an old French headlight housing...* * * Alex, I did something similar with a B&M Lumotec Lyt on an older (70s) Gazelle Sport Luxe... It did require a bit of Dremel-tooling and electrical tape, but I was very pleased with the result, and was able to retrofit a modern LED dyno light into the original Peerless headlight casing that came with the Gazelle. In fact I plan to do the same for the men's version of the same bike (which I am finishing up this winter)... Pic here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/5723583907/in/set-72157626393170171 Good luck, please share pics when your project is complete. Peace, BB On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:46:16 PM UTC-5, Alex Moll wrote: > > Hi Toshi, > > Does your Cyo still work? I want to try to put one inside an old French > headlight housing, so if you just snapped off the mount, I'd be interested > in buying it from you. > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:38:12 PM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: >> >> I ordered a B&M Luxos dyno light that should come before year end. >> Unfortunately I snapped my IQ Cyo off the mount in a minor spill :(. >> Well, the new light has a wider beam and more illumination, so I'm >> very hopeful that it will do everything I want. It might not be as >> good jewelry though :). >> >> Toshi >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:30 PM, PATRICK MOORE >> wrote: >> >> > I fully admit that my purchase of the SON wheel (for '03 Curt) was a >> > vanity purchase, but I don't have regrets. Those hubs are jewelry. (If >> > you get a SON, you can't do otherwise than buy an expensive Edeluxe >> > lamp.) >> > >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SAQirjYop8cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
You're gazelles are prettier than mine. Then again all your bikes are.. Looking good -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_cjC_bDpW-IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
Kelly, the new bike looks amazing, where did you find the frame? How does it compare to the AHH? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DOqQSyPrm28J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
Tom, Found at Rivendell, then sent off to paint. Comparing to the AHH, hmm.. that is hard to explain.. in a good way not better way just different, it has that twitch like kinda sort but not the the sever degree as my old race bike ... runs speed well free handed, and did 45 mph down hill in the dark solid as a rock. But my AHH does that too.. only the 50x11 allows me to spin up faster and makes the downhills nicer for pedaling the entire thing. As is it is on this build I'm riding less 7lbs than the AHH so it feels more like my quickbeam on uphills out of the saddle .. responsive and light yet steady and stable. With the Bars slightly below the seat, the seat tilted a bit farther forward, shorter cranks, 170 instead of 175, and I've been running with maybe 2 cm more leg bend for faster cadence. I've got a lugged setback seatpost on the AHH and the standard nitto 2 bolt on the Ram.. same stems, same bars but the center of saddle to center of handle bar is the same, with the top tube on the AHH being about 2cm longer or so as well. It's going to do exactly what I wanted and that is be my group ride and fast event ride bike with a go anywhere ability. Fully loaded with bag, camera, coffee, tools etc it's riding weight is 30lbs. yet feels less. Just a great feel and very responsive. So though the AHH / RAM / Quickbeam all have their own feel I can't say I like any of them better than the other.. The differences are small and usually where one excels for me it's usually for an insignificant part of a ride. So the rear rack is going back on the AHH and a larger rear bag. Maybe even put a marks rack on the front ... One thing I miss and am going to stay without is the kickstand... was walking it through the mall today and trying to find walls to lean it against was a pain.. note take the AHH to the mall next time. :) Kelly On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:16:27 PM UTC-6, Tom Harrop wrote: > > Kelly, the new bike looks amazing, where did you find the frame? How does > it compare to the AHH? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pIG8sHV3EMQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
P.S. Think about either a 15-25 9 speed cassette or a Century Special 13-30 both from Harris Cyclery. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Kelly wrote: > > I have a new frame arriving today, the build I'm thinking about is below. > My questions / quest for others opinions would be this. I'm building this > as a club ride bike and or even good weather event bike for things like 3 > State 3 Mountain Challenge. > I'm 6'5" and 225 to 235 pounds depending on time of year. > > I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and to a > point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides. (note that > a part of this build is for aesthetics. Thus the nice silver stuff and > classic look (hopefully) > > Still debating with myself about derailleurs - XT or 105 Rear (or other > choice with better look) Front is really up in the air but looks like > Shimano again > > Looks like Shimano 9 Speed down tube or bar end.. depends on reach when I > get to building.. big frame long reach.. if looks only I'm leaning towards > down tube. > If reach is to long for my comfort level, have you tried wrapping the shift > cables all the way to the stem? Did the extra bends effect shifting > noticeably? I think it would work and have a different look. > > > Thinking of possible white shift and brake cables, with white bar tape. > > Any experience with the Grand Cru Hubs? Good or Bad > > Thanks for your thoughts.. > > Kelly > > 68 Rambouillet - (Blue) Supposed to be here today > > Grand Cru Touring Hub, 130mm -- 11x28 Cassette - Haven't purchased yet > > VO RAID Rim, 700c - Purchased 36 spoke > > New SON28 - Haven't purchased yet. > René Herse Triple Crank 50-38-24 On the bench > SKS Bottom Bracket - On Desk > Grand Bois Cerf, Green Label 700C x 29 mm - On the bench > Nitto Lugged Quill 26.0- On the bench > Nitto Noodle Handlebar- On the bench > TRP Tektro RRL Brake Levers- on the bench, taken off wifes roadeo when she > went back to sti's. > Side Pull Brakes- on the bench > Thin Gripster pedals- on the bench > Brooks ENGLAND leather Swift- shipped > http://www.ebay.com/itm/380537396851?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 > E3 Pro 2 lights- in the drawer > http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UNvY99l1GlcJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
Lighter is righter, so unless you are going to ride all night you can get away with a battery headlight/tailight. The reach will be a long one for down-tube so why not STI? Bar ends can break in a 0 MPH fall over. Good tire choice but being of similar bodily dimensions you can get away with some 32 spoke lightweight wheels and maybe have to have them rebuilt every 3 years or so. Try one of the Specialized "endurance" saddles in 155mm or even 143mm versions-very comfy. All of the weight adds up and your legs may thank you. Make mudguards a take-off/put-on option, save weight where you can. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Kelly wrote: > > I have a new frame arriving today, the build I'm thinking about is below. > My questions / quest for others opinions would be this. I'm building this > as a club ride bike and or even good weather event bike for things like 3 > State 3 Mountain Challenge. > I'm 6'5" and 225 to 235 pounds depending on time of year. > > I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and to a > point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides. (note that > a part of this build is for aesthetics. Thus the nice silver stuff and > classic look (hopefully) > > Still debating with myself about derailleurs - XT or 105 Rear (or other > choice with better look) Front is really up in the air but looks like > Shimano again > > Looks like Shimano 9 Speed down tube or bar end.. depends on reach when I > get to building.. big frame long reach.. if looks only I'm leaning towards > down tube. > If reach is to long for my comfort level, have you tried wrapping the shift > cables all the way to the stem? Did the extra bends effect shifting > noticeably? I think it would work and have a different look. > > > Thinking of possible white shift and brake cables, with white bar tape. > > Any experience with the Grand Cru Hubs? Good or Bad > > Thanks for your thoughts.. > > Kelly > > 68 Rambouillet - (Blue) Supposed to be here today > > Grand Cru Touring Hub, 130mm -- 11x28 Cassette - Haven't purchased yet > > VO RAID Rim, 700c - Purchased 36 spoke > > New SON28 - Haven't purchased yet. > René Herse Triple Crank 50-38-24 On the bench > SKS Bottom Bracket - On Desk > Grand Bois Cerf, Green Label 700C x 29 mm - On the bench > Nitto Lugged Quill 26.0- On the bench > Nitto Noodle Handlebar- On the bench > TRP Tektro RRL Brake Levers- on the bench, taken off wifes roadeo when she > went back to sti's. > Side Pull Brakes- on the bench > Thin Gripster pedals- on the bench > Brooks ENGLAND leather Swift- shipped > http://www.ebay.com/itm/380537396851?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 > E3 Pro 2 lights- in the drawer > http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UNvY99l1GlcJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
Kelly, thanks for the details. As a fellow large bike rider I think there will be an AHH somewhere in my future... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/J9S8I0on1a8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build
Tom, the AHH is a premier bike in my opinion, it's the bike for me that put joy back into riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rK63O-IBuZYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build - AHH
Do it. I think it's the best bike ever. On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:45 AM, Tom Harrop wrote: > Kelly, thanks for the details. As a fellow large bike rider I think there > will be an AHH somewhere in my future... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/J9S8I0on1a8J. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.