Re: [RBW] Re: A first for me...

2010-06-21 Thread CycloFiend
on 6/21/10 12:17 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery at thill@gmail.com
wrote:

> "One benefit of freehub designs is that this can be a little easier -
> single tool and wrench rather
> than a bench vise."
> 
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding your words, but to remove a cassette,
> generally you'd need a chain whip (or vise whip!!!), cassette lockring
> tool, and a wrench to turn the cassette lockring tool. No chainwhip
> needed with a freewheel -  maybe just a big adjustable wrench and the
> appropriate freewheel tool, assuming the FW threads were greased
> before installation and that it hasn't been on there for 25 years.

Whoops! Thanks for catching my imprecise description.  As you describe,
three separate bits: Chain Whip, Lockring Tool, Wrench.

Oh, and torque.  Gotta have torque...

As far as preferring a freehub to freewheel for removal...For some reason,
grease and such appropriately applied, I've yet to have a freewheel which
didn't have to be taken off via the "clamp the tool in the bench vise
(secured by the slightly loose QR) and turn the wheel method."

Of course, most of those were mtb freewheels, and low-geared climbing will
get those things on, but good.
 
> OTOH, we often see professionally assembled bikes coming in for
> repair, where the cassette lockring is barely finger-tight. No tools
> required..

Done that, too. ;^)

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: A first for me...

2010-06-21 Thread Eric Norris
Faced with a recalcitrant freewheel, I always found it easiest to clamp the 
freewheel tool into the vice and then grab the wheel and turn it.  The leverage 
in the wheel itself was always enough.

--Eric

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On Jun 21, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 12:17 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
>> "One benefit of freehub designs is that this can be a little easier -
>> single tool and wrench rather
>> than a bench vise."
>> 
>> Maybe I'm misunderstanding your words, but to remove a cassette,
>> generally you'd need a chain whip (or vise whip!!!), cassette lockring
>> tool, and a wrench to turn the cassette lockring tool. No chainwhip
>> needed with a freewheel -  maybe just a big adjustable wrench and the
>> appropriate freewheel tool, assuming the FW threads were greased
>> before installation and that it hasn't been on there for 25 years.
> 
> 
> And a bench vise and a six foot long cheater bar as well.  That's what
> it took to get the last freewheel off my tandem.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: A first for me...

2010-06-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 12:17 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> "One benefit of freehub designs is that this can be a little easier -
> single tool and wrench rather
> than a bench vise."
> 
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding your words, but to remove a cassette,
> generally you'd need a chain whip (or vise whip!!!), cassette lockring
> tool, and a wrench to turn the cassette lockring tool. No chainwhip
> needed with a freewheel -  maybe just a big adjustable wrench and the
> appropriate freewheel tool, assuming the FW threads were greased
> before installation and that it hasn't been on there for 25 years.


And a bench vise and a six foot long cheater bar as well.  That's what
it took to get the last freewheel off my tandem.

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