Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[Singlespeed Johnny]

i installed some maxxis torch 29x2.0 on my appa a couple weeks ago. super 
underrated tire. folding bead, lightweight and rolls super fast. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[Deacon Patrick]

Not that I noticed, Ed, but I just switched and kept riding happy and 
delighted, so I suppose the most accurate answer is the Racing Ralphs are 
at least as plush as the Thunder Burts as I'd have not kept ridding them if 
they were less plush.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 3:04:23 AM UTC-6, ed wrote:
>
> Hi Deacon,
> Is the Racing Ralphs more plush and smooth compared to Thunder Burts?
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> For a Compass tire-ish like ride (plush and smooth, without built in flat 
>> protection) while having knobbies, Thunder Burts (less aggressive lungs, 
>> slightly better on asphalt) and Racing Ralphs (more aggressive lugs, better 
>> in mud, snow, and loose, a bit noisier on asphalt but still quite smooth) 
>> are excellent options. Racing Ralphs are my Hunqa's tire for coming up on 
>> two years now, after a year with Thunder Burts.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 8:31:38 PM UTC-6, Birdman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, 
>>>
>>> I am beyond thrilled to say that I just put a deposit down on a 64 
>>> Atlantis with a double tt! Now I get to enjoy many months of anticipation 
>>> while fantasizing about bike builds... 
>>>
>>> Speaking of which, I always rode 32mm pasellas on my Quickbeam as well 
>>> as on my current touring bike, because of its relatively narrow crown and 
>>> chain stays. The option of running larger tires on the Atlantis is part of 
>>> its appeal for me, but I don't really know where to begin. 
>>>
>>> Any tire size/brand recommendations for commuting and touring with some 
>>> gravel and dirt roads? I know it all comes down to compromises and personal 
>>> preferences, but where should I start? 
>>>
>>> Thanks. I haven't posted here in many years. It's great to be coming 
>>> back to the RBW Owners Bunch. 
>>>
>>> Isaac
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[Patrick Moore]

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Jeremy Till 
wrote:"... the goatheads are endemic, so while I can see the appeal of
Compass or Soma suppleness it just doesn't make sense for me. "

Just in case: 175 gram tires with Orange seal are fine on our dirt roads,
and I'll be we have more goatheads than you do.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Deacon,
Is the Racing Ralphs more plush and smooth compared to Thunder Burts?

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> For a Compass tire-ish like ride (plush and smooth, without built in flat
> protection) while having knobbies, Thunder Burts (less aggressive lungs,
> slightly better on asphalt) and Racing Ralphs (more aggressive lugs, better
> in mud, snow, and loose, a bit noisier on asphalt but still quite smooth)
> are excellent options. Racing Ralphs are my Hunqa's tire for coming up on
> two years now, after a year with Thunder Burts.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 8:31:38 PM UTC-6, Birdman wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am beyond thrilled to say that I just put a deposit down on a 64
>> Atlantis with a double tt! Now I get to enjoy many months of anticipation
>> while fantasizing about bike builds...
>>
>> Speaking of which, I always rode 32mm pasellas on my Quickbeam as well as
>> on my current touring bike, because of its relatively narrow crown and
>> chain stays. The option of running larger tires on the Atlantis is part of
>> its appeal for me, but I don't really know where to begin.
>>
>> Any tire size/brand recommendations for commuting and touring with some
>> gravel and dirt roads? I know it all comes down to compromises and personal
>> preferences, but where should I start?
>>
>> Thanks. I haven't posted here in many years. It's great to be coming back
>> to the RBW Owners Bunch.
>>
>> Isaac
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[William Henderson]

Agreed. I typically ride at higher pressures (70-80psi) for my commute,
though I'll drop down for gravel rides and other such. I started with the
Soma Supple Vitesse, which are absolutely lovely but just flatted too often
for me. After a few weeks of that, I switched to the Shikoros. The do feel
a bit stiffer, but they are still quite lively. They seem to roll almost on
their own.

Curiously, the Shikoros flatted several times too – at first (including one
flat during the World Naked Bike Ride. Made for pretty awkward pumping).
This may have been terrible luck, but I wonder if the brand new tires were
somehow 'stickier' and tended to pick up glass and other debris. I got two
or three flats in the first two weeks of daily riding, and almost gave up.
I'm glad I persisted: a year and a half later I'm still riding them and I
haven't had a single flat. The tires have worn nicely, plenty of tread left
(according to Ride Report I've put 3.5k miles on them).

Best,
William

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:45 AM Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> In my experience, outside a glass or thorn heavy environment, a low
> inflation, wide, supple tire is its own flat protection, as the suppleness
> allows the tire to compress around sharp rocks etc. I've only gotten pinch
> flats (from underinflation) and from riding the tires after the tread was
> worn down.
>
> Patrick of the Moore swears by using liquid latex in his tubes to prevent
> flats in his goat head infested niche of the world.
>
> There seems to be a wide variety of what works for people (no doubt for a
> variety of reasons) on commutes. Experience will be the best teacher. I'd
> aim for the plushest ride first and add flat protection if you get a lot of
> flats that aren't fixed by proper inflation (which can take a bit to dial
> in -- the basic idea is just enough air to prevent pinch flats and tire
> rolls in curves).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 10:33:48 AM UTC-6, Birdman wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, that's one I hadn't encountered before.
>>
>> What about a Compass tire-ish ride WITH flat protection?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[Birdman]

I am super-intrigued by the Shikoro tires

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[William Henderson]

That's be the Shikoro or Jack Brown Blue, I think.

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On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:33 AM Birdman  wrote:

> Thanks, that's one I hadn't encountered before.
>
> What about a Compass tire-ish ride WITH flat protection?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[drew]

I have a 700c hunq and I also have run 2.0 marathon supremes and liked them a 
lot. Previously I had big apples, and felt the supremes were a step up in 
durability and cushiness. currently using 2.1 wtb nanos, which have been 
awesome on dirt, decent on pavement and can be found super cheap. 40mm conti 
speed kings felt ok but too small for the frame. 
On my list to try are thunderburts and soma cazadaros. Wtb byway looks great 
and I hear they are gonna make a 700c version.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[Ed Fausto]

+1 on the Marathon Supreme 26 x 1.6"
Used it on my 51 Atlantis during my TransAm tour last 2016.
I only had 2 flats in my 4 months of touring.
Ed

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 11:12 AM, dougP  wrote:

> Isaac:
>
> Congratulations on having excellent taste in bikes.  Be sure to post
> photos when you've rec'd the bike.
>
> One of the many beauties of the Atlantis is the ability to fit all sorts
> of big chubby tires.  While 29+ may be pushing it, for your intended
> purpose you have tons of good choices.
>
> My personal bias is to Schwalbe because I hate flats.  I've been pleased
> with the 40 mm Marathon Supremes on my 58 cm Atlantis, having used them for
> many years.  When I was doing more touring (5-6k miles per year) I would
> only get a flat or 2 per year.  Rear tires lasted a year & fronts a bit
> longer.  I'm doing about 3,000 miles year now so rarely deal with a flat.
> I also don't insist on getting the last mile out of a tire.
>
> I've also tried the Marathon Mondials.  They give better traction off
> pavement, at a penalty in ride & weight.
>
> Others have used a wide variety of tires for similar uses so you'll no
> doubt get plenty of responses with personal use information.  Compass,
> Soma, et al have all been used with good result.  The trade-off, as always,
> is puncture resistance and ride vs life span and flat resistance.  You may
> end up with your own tire inventory.  It's a harmless indulgence.  Enjoy.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, Birdman wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am beyond thrilled to say that I just put a deposit down on a 64
>> Atlantis with a double tt! Now I get to enjoy many months of anticipation
>> while fantasizing about bike builds...
>>
>> Speaking of which, I always rode 32mm pasellas on my Quickbeam as well as
>> on my current touring bike, because of its relatively narrow crown and
>> chain stays. The option of running larger tires on the Atlantis is part of
>> its appeal for me, but I don't really know where to begin.
>>
>> Any tire size/brand recommendations for commuting and touring with some
>> gravel and dirt roads? I know it all comes down to compromises and personal
>> preferences, but where should I start?
>>
>> Thanks. I haven't posted here in many years. It's great to be coming back
>> to the RBW Owners Bunch.
>>
>> Isaac
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