Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-05 Thread Perry
The tomato is a veggie. Not because of the Supreme Court, tariffs, seeds, or 
any other reason. It is a veggie because it's calorie density is most similar 
to veggies. Unless of course, you believe that not all calories are alike. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-05 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 12/05/2013 12:17 PM, Perry wrote:

The tomato is a veggie. Not because of the Supreme Court, tariffs, seeds, or 
any other reason. It is a veggie because it's calorie density is most similar 
to veggies. Unless of course, you believe that not all calories are alike.




From what I've read, it's nothing to do with calorie density. 
Biologically, it's a fruit; but it's considered a vegetable because it's 
served as a vegetable rather than as a dessert, and because the Supreme 
Court said so in a case about the Tariff Act of 1883, which required a 
tax to be paid on imported vegetables but not on fruit. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden


We shall leave for another day the question of whether that means that 
ketchup itself is a vegetable.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-05 Thread Bobish


 On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 
 On 12/05/2013 12:17 PM, Perry wrote:
 The tomato is a veggie. Not because of the Supreme Court, tariffs, seeds, or 
 any other reason. It is a veggie because it's calorie density is most 
 similar to veggies. Unless of course, you believe that not all calories are 
 alike.
 
 From what I've read, it's nothing to do with calorie density. Biologically, 
 it's a fruit; but it's considered a vegetable because it's served as a 
 vegetable rather than as a dessert, and because the Supreme Court said so in 
 a case about the Tariff Act of 1883, which required a tax to be paid on 
 imported vegetables but not on fruit. 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden
 
 
I know, Steve. I was decreeing it so, as per emperor Perry  ;) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 12/04/2013 02:18 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Only because Patrick is an absolute ZEALOT about his caveman artisinal 
authenticity, I'll point out that cavemen VERY rarely bought canned 
tomatoes at Costco.  Nevermind the myriad difficulties building a 
frying station 10,000 years ago.


Even more difficulty is presented by the fact that the tomato wasn't 
domesticated until 500BC, and that in Southern Mexico, a long long way 
from where the people we think of as cavemen lived.


Now for something related: is the tomato a fruit or a vegetable?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Ugh sez you all full of ___. Ugh like ketchup. Ugh caveman. Ergo, quod erat
demonstrandum.

Patrick a belly laugh is worth 10,000 syllogisms Moore


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 12/04/2013 02:18 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Only because Patrick is an absolute ZEALOT about his caveman artisinal
 authenticity, I'll point out that cavemen VERY rarely bought canned
 tomatoes at Costco.  Nevermind the myriad difficulties building a frying
 station 10,000 years ago.


 Even more difficulty is presented by the fact that the tomato wasn't
 domesticated until 500BC, and that in Southern Mexico, a long long way from
 where the people we think of as cavemen lived.

 Now for something related: is the tomato a fruit or a vegetable?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 12/04/2013 03:37 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
Ugh sez you all full of ___. Ugh like ketchup. Ugh caveman. Ergo, quod 
erat demonstrandum.


You think cavemen spoke Latin?




Patrick a belly laugh is worth 10,000 syllogisms Moore


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com 
mailto:palin...@his.com wrote:


On 12/04/2013 02:18 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Only because Patrick is an absolute ZEALOT about his caveman
artisinal authenticity, I'll point out that cavemen VERY
rarely bought canned tomatoes at Costco.  Nevermind the myriad
difficulties building a frying station 10,000 years ago.


Even more difficulty is presented by the fact that the tomato
wasn't domesticated until 500BC, and that in Southern Mexico, a
long long way from where the people we think of as cavemen lived.

Now for something related: is the tomato a fruit or a vegetable?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
Now for something related: is the tomato a fruit or a vegetable? 


*ABSOLUTELY!  YES!*

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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 12/04/2013 03:47 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Now for something related: is the tomato a fruit or a vegetable? 

*
ABSOLUTELY!  YES!*



Ah, but which?  And on what basis?   Note: there is no ambiguity here, 
the issue was decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.





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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
For me, the issue was decided by Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, which was 
based on petroglyphs.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 1:51:27 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 12/04/2013 03:47 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
  
 Now for something related: is the tomato a fruit or a vegetable?  

  
 * ABSOLUTELY!  YES!*
  


 Ah, but which?  And on what basis?   Note: there is no ambiguity here, the 
 issue was decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.




  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
Ah, but which?  And on what basis?

PRECISELY!  I couldn't have said it better!

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 12:51:27 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 12/04/2013 03:47 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
  
 Now for something related: is the tomato a fruit or a vegetable?  

  
 * ABSOLUTELY!  YES!*
  


 Ah, but which?  And on what basis?   Note: there is no ambiguity here, the 
 issue was decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.




  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman Ketchup, batch #2`

2013-12-04 Thread Jim M.


On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 12:51:27 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:


 Ah, but which?  And on what basis?   Note: there is no ambiguity here, the 
 issue was decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.


Nix v Hedden: SCOTUS unanimously decided it's a vegetable. 

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