Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Patrick Moore]

If I weren't so attached to Shimano aero levers, particularly the old
pre-STI Dura Ace ones, I'd use Paul Motolites.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 3:39 PM 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I love that this become a worthwhile discussion about whether these darn
> great brakes would fit on your particular bike.  I used these for several
> years on my decidedly non-riv Specialized cross bike that was my 20 mile
> round trip commuter.  They worked so much better than the stock specialized
> Cantilevers  on a 32mm fendered bike.
>
> They are now sold.
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 1:00:05 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> This is the information I was looking for; many thanks.
>>
>> Nope, won't fit; at least 15 mm too short. Too bad. But the Paul cantis
>> work alright.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 6:29 AM Steve  wrote:
>>
>>>  Patrick, this reference lists the Minimoto as having an 83mm arm
>>> length. Compare that to the length of your current brakes.
>>>
>>> https://gravelbikearchive.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/v-brake-arm-lengths/
>>> .
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:40:23 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Cal, that's helpful.

 All: the RH site estimates 47 mm for the OR on a 21 m IW rim. I've got
 Naches Passes (at 41.5 mm) under VO 50 mm fenders with ~ 1.25 mm of
 clearance over the tires.

 Does anyone know if this more or less equals in vertical and horizontal
 extension a 47 m tire?


 On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:31 PM Cal Patterson  wrote:

> I've got a minimoto on the front wheel of my quickbeam, and it fits a
> RH 700x48 knobby (oracle ridge)
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I love that this become a worthwhile discussion about whether these darn 
great brakes would fit on your particular bike.  I used these for several 
years on my decidedly non-riv Specialized cross bike that was my 20 mile 
round trip commuter.  They worked so much better than the stock specialized 
Cantilevers  on a 32mm fendered bike.

They are now sold.

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 1:00:05 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This is the information I was looking for; many thanks.
>
> Nope, won't fit; at least 15 mm too short. Too bad. But the Paul cantis 
> work alright.
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 6:29 AM Steve  wrote:
>
>>  Patrick, this reference lists the Minimoto as having an 83mm arm length. 
>> Compare that to the length of your current brakes.  
>>
>> https://gravelbikearchive.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/v-brake-arm-lengths/. 
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:40:23 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Cal, that's helpful.
>>>
>>> All: the RH site estimates 47 mm for the OR on a 21 m IW rim. I've got 
>>> Naches Passes (at 41.5 mm) under VO 50 mm fenders with ~ 1.25 mm of 
>>> clearance over the tires. 
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this more or less equals in vertical and horizontal 
>>> extension a 47 m tire?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:31 PM Cal Patterson  wrote:
>>>
 I've got a minimoto on the front wheel of my quickbeam, and it fits a 
 RH 700x48 knobby (oracle ridge)

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Patrick Moore]

This is the information I was looking for; many thanks.

Nope, won't fit; at least 15 mm too short. Too bad. But the Paul cantis
work alright.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 6:29 AM Steve  wrote:

>  Patrick, this reference lists the Minimoto as having an 83mm arm length.
> Compare that to the length of your current brakes.
>
> https://gravelbikearchive.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/v-brake-arm-lengths/.
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:40:23 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Cal, that's helpful.
>>
>> All: the RH site estimates 47 mm for the OR on a 21 m IW rim. I've got
>> Naches Passes (at 41.5 mm) under VO 50 mm fenders with ~ 1.25 mm of
>> clearance over the tires.
>>
>> Does anyone know if this more or less equals in vertical and horizontal
>> extension a 47 m tire?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:31 PM Cal Patterson  wrote:
>>
>>> I've got a minimoto on the front wheel of my quickbeam, and it fits a RH
>>> 700x48 knobby (oracle ridge)
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Steve]

 Patrick, this reference lists the Minimoto as having an 83mm arm length. 
Compare that to the length of your current brakes.  

https://gravelbikearchive.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/v-brake-arm-lengths/. 

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:40:23 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Cal, that's helpful.
>
> All: the RH site estimates 47 mm for the OR on a 21 m IW rim. I've got 
> Naches Passes (at 41.5 mm) under VO 50 mm fenders with ~ 1.25 mm of 
> clearance over the tires. 
>
> Does anyone know if this more or less equals in vertical and horizontal 
> extension a 47 m tire?
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:31 PM Cal Patterson  wrote:
>
>> I've got a minimoto on the front wheel of my quickbeam, and it fits a RH 
>> 700x48 knobby (oracle ridge)
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Cal, that's helpful.

All: the RH site estimates 47 mm for the OR on a 21 m IW rim. I've got
Naches Passes (at 41.5 mm) under VO 50 mm fenders with ~ 1.25 mm of
clearance over the tires.

Does anyone know if this more or less equals in vertical and horizontal
extension a 47 m tire?


On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:31 PM Cal Patterson  wrote:

> I've got a minimoto on the front wheel of my quickbeam, and it fits a RH
> 700x48 knobby (oracle ridge)
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Cal Patterson]

I've got a minimoto on the front wheel of my quickbeam, and it fits a RH 
700x48 knobby (oracle ridge)

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 7:27:56 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Steve or anyone else who had the patience to sit through the entire 7 
> minutes+: what did he say was the fattest tire alone, or fattest tire + 
> fender combo? 
>
> I skimmed thru it but couldn't find the right spot. (Conversation is more 
> direct than text -- you can tell your interlocutor to shut up with the 
> irrelevancies and get to the point -- but text is a hellofalot faster than 
> video, esp when the refresh rates are not instant, if you don't want to sit 
> thru plodding step by step instructions. Nothing against step by step but I 
> just want max width. Over and out.)
>
> Patrick "why is video so *slow?*" Moore
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:11 PM Steve  wrote:
>
>> Here's what the man has to say about fender clearances for several of his 
>> brakes, including the Motolites and  Minimotos---  (I happened .to 
>> watch this one when II was considering brakes for my Platypus. Wound up 
>> going with Deore Vs but they might turn out to be a placeholder for 
>> Motolites)
>>
>> https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/
>>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:33:07 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
> Based on my experience with mini-v brakes and knowing the specs of the 
>>> mini-motos I would say a heavy MAYBE on 48's. Without seeing it for sure I 
>>> would probably put a max on 45's. I am actually pretty shocked to hear that 
>>> 45's with fenders made it even with the pinching.
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:31:02 PM UTC-5 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>>
 I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer 
 sides of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires 
 themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be 
 closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders 
 needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.

 Others may be able to weigh in.

 On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-5 philip@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge 
> too far?
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once 
> dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear 
> response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS 
> fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.
>
>
> Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.
>
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Patrick Moore]

Forgot to add that that tire looked like a 50 at least. Would that mean
that Minmotos could handle a 42 + 50 mm fender? I asked this before and
consensus was no, but it was a very small consensus, and the Minimotos
greatly appeal since you can use standard drop bar levers.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:27 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Steve or anyone else who had the patience to sit through the entire 7
> minutes+: what did he say was the fattest tire alone, or fattest tire +
> fender combo?
>
> I skimmed thru it but couldn't find the right spot. (Conversation is more
> direct than text -- you can tell your interlocutor to shut up with the
> irrelevancies and get to the point -- but text is a hellofalot faster than
> video, esp when the refresh rates are not instant, if you don't want to sit
> thru plodding step by step instructions. Nothing against step by step but I
> just want max width. Over and out.)
>
> Patrick "why is video so *slow?*" Moore
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:11 PM Steve  wrote:
>
>> Here's what the man has to say about fender clearances for several of his
>> brakes, including the Motolites and  Minimotos---  (I happened .to
>> watch this one when II was considering brakes for my Platypus. Wound up
>> going with Deore Vs but they might turn out to be a placeholder for
>> Motolites)
>>
>> https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:33:07 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Based on my experience with mini-v brakes and knowing the specs of the
>>> mini-motos I would say a heavy MAYBE on 48's. Without seeing it for sure I
>>> would probably put a max on 45's. I am actually pretty shocked to hear that
>>> 45's with fenders made it even with the pinching.
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:31:02 PM UTC-5 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>>
 I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer
 sides of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires
 themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be
 closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders
 needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.

 Others may be able to weigh in.

 On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-5 philip@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge
> too far?
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once
> dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear
> response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS
> fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.
>
>
> Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.
>
> 
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Patrick Moore]

Steve or anyone else who had the patience to sit through the entire 7
minutes+: what did he say was the fattest tire alone, or fattest tire +
fender combo?

I skimmed thru it but couldn't find the right spot. (Conversation is more
direct than text -- you can tell your interlocutor to shut up with the
irrelevancies and get to the point -- but text is a hellofalot faster than
video, esp when the refresh rates are not instant, if you don't want to sit
thru plodding step by step instructions. Nothing against step by step but I
just want max width. Over and out.)

Patrick "why is video so *slow?*" Moore

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:11 PM Steve  wrote:

> Here's what the man has to say about fender clearances for several of his
> brakes, including the Motolites and  Minimotos---  (I happened .to
> watch this one when II was considering brakes for my Platypus. Wound up
> going with Deore Vs but they might turn out to be a placeholder for
> Motolites)
>
> https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:33:07 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Based on my experience with mini-v brakes and knowing the specs of the
>> mini-motos I would say a heavy MAYBE on 48's. Without seeing it for sure I
>> would probably put a max on 45's. I am actually pretty shocked to hear that
>> 45's with fenders made it even with the pinching.
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:31:02 PM UTC-5 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>
>>> I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer
>>> sides of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires
>>> themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be
>>> closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders
>>> needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.
>>>
>>> Others may be able to weigh in.
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-5 philip@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge too
 far?

 P. W.
 ~
 (917) 514-2207
 ~




 On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once
 dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear
 response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS
 fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Steve]

Here's what the man has to say about fender clearances for several of his 
brakes, including the Motolites and  Minimotos---  (I happened .to 
watch this one when II was considering brakes for my Platypus. Wound up 
going with Deore Vs but they might turn out to be a placeholder for 
Motolites)

https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/

Is this what's called "hijacking the thread"?  Well, never mind.
On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:33:07 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Based on my experience with mini-v brakes and knowing the specs of the 
> mini-motos I would say a heavy MAYBE on 48's. Without seeing it for sure I 
> would probably put a max on 45's. I am actually pretty shocked to hear that 
> 45's with fenders made it even with the pinching.
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:31:02 PM UTC-5 Steven Seelig wrote:
>
>> I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer 
>> sides of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires 
>> themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be 
>> closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders 
>> needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.
>>
>> Others may be able to weigh in.
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-5 philip@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge too 
>>> far?
>>>
>>> P. W.
>>> ~
>>> (917) 514-2207
>>> ~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once 
>>> dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear 
>>> response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS 
>>> fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.
>>>
>>>
>>> Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Steve]

Here's what the man has to say about fender clearances for several of his 
brakes, including the Motolites and  Minimotos---  (I happened .to 
watch this one when II was considering brakes for my Platypus. Wound up 
going with Deore Vs but they might turn out to be a placeholder for 
Motolites)

https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/
On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:33:07 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Based on my experience with mini-v brakes and knowing the specs of the 
> mini-motos I would say a heavy MAYBE on 48's. Without seeing it for sure I 
> would probably put a max on 45's. I am actually pretty shocked to hear that 
> 45's with fenders made it even with the pinching.
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:31:02 PM UTC-5 Steven Seelig wrote:
>
>> I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer 
>> sides of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires 
>> themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be 
>> closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders 
>> needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.
>>
>> Others may be able to weigh in.
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-5 philip@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge too 
>>> far?
>>>
>>> P. W.
>>> ~
>>> (917) 514-2207
>>> ~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once 
>>> dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear 
>>> response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS 
>>> fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.
>>>
>>>
>>> Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[Johnny Alien]

Based on my experience with mini-v brakes and knowing the specs of the 
mini-motos I would say a heavy MAYBE on 48's. Without seeing it for sure I 
would probably put a max on 45's. I am actually pretty shocked to hear that 
45's with fenders made it even with the pinching.

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:31:02 PM UTC-5 Steven Seelig wrote:

> I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer sides 
> of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires 
> themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be 
> closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders 
> needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.
>
> Others may be able to weigh in.
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-5 philip@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge too 
>> far?
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once 
>> dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear 
>> response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS 
>> fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.
>>
>>
>> Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer sides 
of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires 
themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be 
closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders 
needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.

Others may be able to weigh in.

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-5 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge too 
> far?
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once 
> dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear 
> response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS 
> fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.
>
>
> Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.
>
> 
> 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

[P W]

Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge too far?P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.



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