Re: [RBW] Re: Headset adjustment

2023-09-07 Thread Richard Rose
I think you are correct - after all this! I now think the movement is just the flex of the exposed quill allowed by the hole of the locknut being just a bit larger than it could/should be.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 7, 2023, at 3:11 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Checked my Face Plater in my custom, it shows the same gap as in your video with the same movement..I never knew! I think it's a tall quill stem being yanked by wide bars (Boscos in my case) and these are the results. I'm going to keep riding it as is. On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 12:07:36 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Greetings folks. I would appreciate any input regarding this. Since new I have had some movement in my headset / stem that concerns me, possibly unnecessarily so? Please review the attached video link and tell me what you see. I felt the headset was a bit loose so tightened it a bit. This made no difference. The minimum insertion line for the Faceplater stem is a full two centimeters below the headset lock nut. So, the question seems to be is this stem quill movement excessive &  if so how to eliminate it. I do mind the inherent flex. It no doubt contributes to the comfort of the bike? I just want to be certain it is safe and causing no harm.I appreciate your help.Richardhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/ZXVZBrQEVzamDV1H6



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Re: [RBW] Re: Headset adjustment

2023-09-06 Thread Richard Rose
Hi Garth. It is a Nitto FacePlater stem & consistently measures 22.2. I’ve not yet measured the inside diameter of the head tube.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 6, 2023, at 3:41 PM, Garth  wrote:It appears the diameter of the stem is out of spec as all I see of movement in the video is the stem itself wiggling inside the steering tube. Do measure the diameters of the outer stem and inside the steerer, and in multiple places around the circles. Something is out of spec as that's a whole lotta wiggle, not good. Is that the Nitto or the JIm Faceplater ?  If you don't have a caliper for measuring do you at least have a another stem to insert ? If not, contact Riv. Frankly that ought to have been the first place to go. On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 3:07:36 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Greetings folks. I would appreciate any input regarding this. Since new I have had some movement in my headset / stem that concerns me, possibly unnecessarily so? Please review the attached video link and tell me what you see. I felt the headset was a bit loose so tightened it a bit. This made no difference. The minimum insertion line for the Faceplater stem is a full two centimeters below the headset lock nut. So, the question seems to be is this stem quill movement excessive &  if so how to eliminate it. I do mind the inherent flex. It no doubt contributes to the comfort of the bike? I just want to be certain it is safe and causing no harm.I appreciate your help.Richardhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/ZXVZBrQEVzamDV1H6



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Re: [RBW] Re: Headset adjustment how to ?'s...

2017-10-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
This is an excellent thing to add to a pre-ride quick check, or a 
diagnostic tool when someone on a ride complains about clanking noises, 
vibrations or weird handling.  It's surprising how often I find it, 
especially on bikes with threadless headsets (where the whole point is 
you can adjust it in seconds without tools other than a hex key, and yet 
nobody knows how to do it).



On 10/13/2017 06:16 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
I usually just hold the front brake closed and, while astride the 
bike, try to roll it forward and back. If you wrap your fingers around 
the bottom of the top part of the headset, you’ll pretty easily feel 
movement if the headset is too loose.


--Eric Norris
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On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Ed Carolipio > wrote:


On Step 4, to check for excessive play I like to brace the front 
wheel against something solid - like a wall or a heavy workshop bench 
- hold onto the handlebar then push forward on the frame or seat. The 
steerer shouldn't move relative to the head tube at all when you do that.


Thumbs up on the suggestions on using a stand like the Feedback Rakk 
when making adjustments and on always using two wrenches.


One last note: re-check the headset play after each of the next few 
rides.


Enjoy,
Ed C.


On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 12:38:58 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:

This is a needle bearing IRD Rollerdrive just like Riv sells.

1. Loosen lock nut
2. tighten the nut under the spacers 1/8 turn
3. Tighten lock nut.
4. test for correct feel.
5. Readjust if.


Is this right?
Anything to look out for?
Do I have to worry about those keyed spacers or anything else
that might be keyed I have to be careful of?
Or is this just as easy as described above?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Headset adjustment how to ?'s...

2017-10-13 Thread Eric Norris
I usually just hold the front brake closed and, while astride the bike, try to 
roll it forward and back. If you wrap your fingers around the bottom of the top 
part of the headset, you’ll pretty easily feel movement if the headset is too 
loose.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Ed Carolipio  wrote:
> 
> On Step 4, to check for excessive play I like to brace the front wheel 
> against something solid - like a wall or a heavy workshop bench - hold onto 
> the handlebar then push forward on the frame or seat. The steerer shouldn't 
> move relative to the head tube at all when you do that.
> 
> Thumbs up on the suggestions on using a stand like the Feedback Rakk when 
> making adjustments and on always using two wrenches.
> 
> One last note: re-check the headset play after each of the next few rides.
> 
> Enjoy,
> Ed C.
> 
> 
> On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 12:38:58 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
> This is a needle bearing IRD Rollerdrive just like Riv sells.
> 
> 1. Loosen lock nut
> 2. tighten the nut under the spacers 1/8 turn
> 3. Tighten lock nut.
> 4. test for correct feel.
> 5. Readjust if.
> 
> 
> Is this right?
> Anything to look out for?
> Do I have to worry about those keyed spacers or anything else that might be 
> keyed I have to be careful of?
> Or is this just as easy as described above?
> 
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