Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen = All-Rounder?
For my $.02, I think an AHH is a bit to the lighter weight end of the continuum than an AR,and an Atlantis a bit on the heavier end. Weight meaning tougher/stronger along with mass. A Sam H might be the best comparison other than the sloping TT. So if you wanted something significantly lighter/sportier, a Roadeo or Ram or Rom would probably make you happier.But as Matt J said, you could have a heavy wheel component mix on one of the triple Rs above, or a ultra-light mix on the AHH and have a hard time saying which one is sportier! On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Matthew J wrote: > Have you considered getting a zippy wheel set? A lighter wheel set with > higher gearing and event tires - maybe even tubular if you want - can make > a big difference. > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:19:30 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: >> >> I very much enjoy my original 700c All-Rounder, but sometimes wish for >> something a little more zippy/sporty. Looking at the Hilsen (country >> bike), it appears to be a newer version of the All-Rounder. I haven't >> found information on the tubing spec, but looking at the geometry >> specs, they're pretty darn close. >> >> Other than the brakes, is the Hilsen the newer equivalent of the >> original All-Rounder? Other than the Roadeo, should I be looking for >> a used Ram or... ? >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Fp83tI-aR_MJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** "Osama Bin Laden is dead. GM is alive." -- *Joe Biden* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen = All-Rounder?
I have Dura Ace hubs re-spaced to 135mm w/ a longer axle and a spacer. Try some Velocity A23 rims, they're they cool new thing on the market. Then some Challenge Parigi-Roubaix (29mm)... give that a try and see if you're happy! On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:17 PM, rw1911 wrote: > My current wheels are Velocity Synergy rims with Shimano XT hubs and > db spokes. For tires I use either Pasela TGs or Marathon Racers. (I > can't decide which prefer) Both are 700x35. I imagine some zippy- > ness could be found maybe with lighter 700x28 tires. > > What would be considered a zippy wheelset? Ultegra or Dura Ace hubs > and Mavic Open Pros or something more exotic? While widely available, > the problem I have is the All-rounders are spaced for a 135mm MTB bike > hub. I suppose I could crank down the skewer and use a standard 130mm > road hub, but I don't know if that would be OK or a good long term > solution. > > > > > On Sep 16, 7:26 am, Matthew J wrote: > > Have you considered getting a zippy wheel set? A lighter wheel set with > > higher gearing and event tires - maybe even tubular if you want - can > make > > a big difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:19:30 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: > > > > > I very much enjoy my original 700c All-Rounder, but sometimes wish for > > > something a little more zippy/sporty. Looking at the Hilsen (country > > > bike), it appears to be a newer version of the All-Rounder. I haven't > > > found information on the tubing spec, but looking at the geometry > > > specs, they're pretty darn close. > > > > > Other than the brakes, is the Hilsen the newer equivalent of the > > > original All-Rounder? Other than the Roadeo, should I be looking for > > > a used Ram or... ? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** "Osama Bin Laden is dead. GM is alive." -- *Joe Biden* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen = All-Rounder?
> > I have Dura Ace hubs re-spaced to 135mm w/ a longer axle and a spacer. Try > some Velocity A23 rims, they're they cool new >thing on the market. Then some Challenge Parigi-Roubaix (29mm)... give that a try and see if you're happy! What he says, or possibly the Grand Bois Cypres. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8_tFeXh3P7oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen = All-Rounder?
Squeezing your 135 OL rear down 5 mm won't hurt a thing. I once squoze a 126 mm rear end down to 110 with no ill effects that I could discern. On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:17 PM, rw1911 wrote: > My current wheels are Velocity Synergy rims with Shimano XT hubs and > db spokes. For tires I use either Pasela TGs or Marathon Racers. (I > can't decide which prefer) Both are 700x35. I imagine some zippy- > ness could be found maybe with lighter 700x28 tires. > > What would be considered a zippy wheelset? Ultegra or Dura Ace hubs > and Mavic Open Pros or something more exotic? While widely available, > the problem I have is the All-rounders are spaced for a 135mm MTB bike > hub. I suppose I could crank down the skewer and use a standard 130mm > road hub, but I don't know if that would be OK or a good long term > solution. > > > > > On Sep 16, 7:26 am, Matthew J wrote: > > Have you considered getting a zippy wheel set? A lighter wheel set with > > higher gearing and event tires - maybe even tubular if you want - can > make > > a big difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:19:30 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: > > > > > I very much enjoy my original 700c All-Rounder, but sometimes wish for > > > something a little more zippy/sporty. Looking at the Hilsen (country > > > bike), it appears to be a newer version of the All-Rounder. I haven't > > > found information on the tubing spec, but looking at the geometry > > > specs, they're pretty darn close. > > > > > Other than the brakes, is the Hilsen the newer equivalent of the > > > original All-Rounder? Other than the Roadeo, should I be looking for > > > a used Ram or... ? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cockburn - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen = All-Rounder?
My guess is the Hilsen is the sportier ride. I've owned a Romulus and a Hilsen, and they felt like the same bike to me. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, September 17, 2012 6:38:01 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > Squeezing your 135 OL rear down 5 mm won't hurt a thing. I once squoze a > 126 mm rear end down to 110 with no ill effects that I could discern. > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:17 PM, rw1911 >wrote: > >> My current wheels are Velocity Synergy rims with Shimano XT hubs and >> db spokes. For tires I use either Pasela TGs or Marathon Racers. (I >> can't decide which prefer) Both are 700x35. I imagine some zippy- >> ness could be found maybe with lighter 700x28 tires. >> >> What would be considered a zippy wheelset? Ultegra or Dura Ace hubs >> and Mavic Open Pros or something more exotic? While widely available, >> the problem I have is the All-rounders are spaced for a 135mm MTB bike >> hub. I suppose I could crank down the skewer and use a standard 130mm >> road hub, but I don't know if that would be OK or a good long term >> solution. >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 16, 7:26 am, Matthew J wrote: >> > Have you considered getting a zippy wheel set? A lighter wheel set with >> > higher gearing and event tires - maybe even tubular if you want - can >> make >> > a big difference. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:19:30 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: >> > >> > > I very much enjoy my original 700c All-Rounder, but sometimes wish for >> > > something a little more zippy/sporty. Looking at the Hilsen (country >> > > bike), it appears to be a newer version of the All-Rounder. I haven't >> > > found information on the tubing spec, but looking at the geometry >> > > specs, they're pretty darn close. >> > >> > > Other than the brakes, is the Hilsen the newer equivalent of the >> > > original All-Rounder? Other than the Roadeo, should I be looking for >> > > a used Ram or... ? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." >-- Claude Cockburn > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vT6dfPH38fwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
