Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
A Mazda 5 is a brilliant suggestion, and soon the Ford version, the C-Max will be here. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Scott G. wrote: > You need a Honda Tardis aka Fit. > A Honda Element or a Mazda 5 also work well. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
1st off, Thanks to everyone who replied. It's harder than everyone thinks to cram a Tall Rider and his stuff into a vehicle. I'll take everyone's advice into account. I'll bring this topic to a close, but let me explain my remarks-and they are somewhat ON topic, as we (some of us) are deciding to use our bikes as alternate transportation. Whenever it comes to fuel efficiency in autos, or home solar power, etc., almost everyone will act in their own best interests first. "What's the payback?", "Yeah, I know the Prius gets 5 more mpg but I can get the XXX for a lot less and only get a few mpg less". If that's not greed, then what is? But, that's also the way it should be, one could argue (not necessarily me, but still). There a very few people who are riding to use less fuel and help mankind, but rather, "I'm not giving my money to some multi-national corporation", or "Look at the money I'm saving!". When I talk about using all of the remaining fossil fuel, I mean this more than you know. How many lives, including our beautiful American youth, have been wasted over this? How many dollars squandered? How many borrowed dollars? The sooner it's gone, the better. And this from a person who makes his own electricity from wind and solar (grid-tied), and heats is own domestic hot water w/ solar. The systems cost me over $100K. Why did I do it? The payback on the PV is around 23 years, and 6 for the solar hot water. I did it as a patriotic act, and to support these kids who put themselves in harm's way. It's my way of lifting a middle finger, not to the companies-that's like blaming a pimp for supplying something that's wanted, but to the whole fossil fuel concept, and saying, "Not this white boy". Sorry for this rant, but I didn't want to alienate some of my brothers and sisters who may have misconstrued my comments. And once again thanks to all. Now let's go have some fun! RGZ RGZ On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:42 AM, MichaelH wrote: > Two things to keep in mind here. First the ego wants wanting more > than it wants having. That's why as soon as we get what we want, we > start wanting something else. If that weren't true the entire > consumer driven economy would collapse. > > Second, oil industry executives are forecasting gasoline prices of > $5.00 by early 2012. > > At the end of Feb I will put our tandem, in 3 pieces, inside the > Prius, along with all our camping equipment, and a roof rack, then > drive from Vermont to New Mexico. Once there (actually to Big Bend in > west TX) we will put the three parts of the tandem back together and > carry it up on the roof. To do the same trip in a Jeep or a van would > require about 50 gallons more gas, which cost as much as shipping the > bike back and forth. > > On other long trips, with two bikes outside the car, I have covered > the seats and removed the chains. The rest is a wash. > > As for sexy... you can buy sex, but you can't buy love. > > michael > > > > On Jan 14, 7:55 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> You're not infringing, dude. What you lack in door frame, >> head-smacking height, you make up for with great ideas! >> >> RGZ >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Michael_S >> wrote: >> > sorry if I'm infringing ( I'm only slightly above avg) on your >> > subgroup but people say tall bikes can fit upright with front tire off >> > in the Mitsubishi Outlander. Avail in 4wd too. >> >> >http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6519393#poststop >> >> > ~Mike~ >> >> > On Jan 13, 6:34 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: Jeremy Till >> >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 >> >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle >> >> forhauling your bike? >> >> >> Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and >> >> it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", >> >> riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit >> >> vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are >> >> deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was >> >> to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes >> >> down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the >> >> thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. >> >> >> Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! >> >> >> On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: >> >> > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. >> >> > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. >> >> > A certain fun factor too. >> >> > RGZ >> >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> > -
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
You're not infringing, dude. What you lack in door frame, head-smacking height, you make up for with great ideas! RGZ On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Michael_S wrote: > sorry if I'm infringing ( I'm only slightly above avg) on your > subgroup but people say tall bikes can fit upright with front tire off > in the Mitsubishi Outlander. Avail in 4wd too. > > http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6519393#poststop > > ~Mike~ > > On Jan 13, 6:34 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jeremy Till >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle >> forhauling your bike? >> >> Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and >> it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", >> riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit >> vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are >> deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was >> to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes >> down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the >> thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. >> >> Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! >> >> On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: >> > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. >> > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. >> > A certain fun factor too. >> > RGZ >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: MichaelH >> >> > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 >> > To: RBW Owners Bunch >> > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for >> > hauling your bike? >> >> > I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size >> > bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last >> > summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. >> > I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the >> > tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is >> > a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, >> > with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier >> > (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders >> > and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on >> > top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty >> > easy. >> >> > Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot >> > Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire >> > tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive >> > home. You can't do that with an SUV. >> >> > Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying >> > cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many >> > applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large >> > items. >> >> > michael, >> > westford, vt. >> >> > On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: >> > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would >> > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, >> > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ >> > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, >> > > slide the wheel in next to it >> >> > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? >> >> > > RGZ >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeremy Till Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. > A certain fun factor too. > RGZ > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: MichaelH > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for > hauling your bike? > > I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size > bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last > summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. > I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the > tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is > a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, > with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier > (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders > and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on > top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty > easy. > > Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot > Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire > tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive > home. You can't do that with an SUV. > > Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying > cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many > applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large > items. > > michael, > westford, vt. > > On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > > slide the wheel in next to it > > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > > RGZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
