Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic-cold/wet boot recommendations

2016-12-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ha! I get funny looks all the time, but there are so many factors I 
couldn't narrow it down to one! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 6:57:47 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
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> I get funny looks riding in my Sorel's here in DC 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic-cold/wet boot recommendations

2016-12-09 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I get funny looks riding in my Sorel's here in DC but in that zone Patrick 
mentions it's the best setup I've used. They are a bit clunky especially as 
mine are a bit larger for my feet but for commuting distances it's not a 
problem and warm dry feet more than balance the problem!  I find that mine dry 
out over the course of the work day of I pull out the liner's a bit.  Oh and +1 
on the bean shearling insoles, they are magic!

Good luck with yours!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic-cold/wet boot recommendations

2016-12-08 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
Just pull the liners out at the end of the day. Same goes for any boot, 
pull the insoles out. Things will dry out overnight with the liners/insoles 
out of the boot as long as they are inside (and not on the unheated 
rain/snow porch). 

Cheers 
Bill in Roswell where frozen precip is a rare event

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 10:18:13 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Alright. I went with some lightly used sorels off eBay with a more treaded 
> sole and removable liners. Been seeing mostly rain, mud and ice so far, so 
> I hope I didn't over do it in the warmth department. I hadn't considered 
> the dryablitly of the liners, but its all making sense now. Much 
> appreciated.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic-cold/wet boot recommendations

2016-12-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
Good deal, Drew.  The more you use them the more you'll learn. Short the 
below 0˚F zone, the most dangerous temp zone is wet and sloppy (45˚F-20˚F, 
depending on conditions). Pick up some extra socks and liners, and you'll 
have room to screw up, learn, and change into something dry. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 8:18:13 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Alright. I went with some lightly used sorels off eBay with a more treaded 
> sole and removable liners. Been seeing mostly rain, mud and ice so far, so 
> I hope I didn't over do it in the warmth department. I hadn't considered 
> the dryablitly of the liners, but its all making sense now. Much 
> appreciated.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic-cold/wet boot recommendations

2016-12-08 Thread drew
Alright. I went with some lightly used sorels off eBay with a more treaded sole 
and removable liners. Been seeing mostly rain, mud and ice so far, so I hope I 
didn't over do it in the warmth department. I hadn't considered the dryablitly 
of the liners, but its all making sense now. Much appreciated.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic-cold/wet boot recommendations

2016-12-08 Thread Jon Dukeman
That's good info Patrick .I used to have a pair of suede pull overs and
they were very warm .  I couldn't wear them in summer too warm.

On Dec 8, 2016 4:26 PM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:

The concepts on winter boots I've learned:

wet and sloppy (wet and 45˚ down to 20˚F): keep outside moisture out, even
if it means rubber bottoms/oiled leather. Swap liners and socks to allow
for drying. Feet often get wet from not being able to breathe. The trick is
to anticipate this and swap liners as needed.

Everything colder than 20˚F: highly breathable and wind blocking outer
(suede is great!) with plenty of upsizing and extra layers (with lots of
room for those layers) -- the idea being to evaporate moisture away while
out and about so feet stay dry and warm. Give liners time to dry, and extra
liners help.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 1:46:58 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> ive been spending my weekends working on a little cabin and some land near
> Yosemite. I'm from LA, and while my hiking boots have performed pretty good
> so far, I now find myself in the cold, wet, muddy zones more frequently.
> I'm looking for boots that can handle some water, slush, cold and solid
> thrashing. They won't see deep snow that often though, but should be
> useable on icy roads and rocks.
> I almost bought some sorells before remembering that you guys usually have
> more thoughtful and unexpected brand recommendations. Budget conscious
> options are always appreciated

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Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic-cold/wet boot recommendations

2016-12-07 Thread Jon Dukeman
Thanks
I'll check on the insoles when I talk to LL Bean
Jon

On Dec 7, 2016 7:48 PM, "GAJett"  wrote:

I bought my Bean boots with optional shearling insoles.  See if such are
still available.  Very comfortable working short term in Wyoming winters
down to -45!  (Frost nipped my fingers shoveling snow with heavy ski gloves
-- couldn't find my heavy mittens.)

Also narrower than the Sorels so more bike friendly.  Frequently rode down
to -25 although not for long distances.  A favorite memory is riding in 6
to 8 inches of fresh powder, the snow "exploding" off my feet at the bottom
of every pedal stroke.  Actually quite beautiful!
Cheers,
GAJett

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Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic-cold/wet boot recommendations

2016-12-07 Thread Lee Legrand
Those boots come in kind of wide if you have narrow feet.  I have wide feet
and have those same boots with thick wool socks.  I do not ride bicycle
with them but my feet are never cold or constricted do to room.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Wally Estrella 
wrote:

> If you decide to go w/ LL Beaners it's recommended to order a size or half
> size down pending actual foot size.  Info on the LL site. The brown upper
> flavor is available in different widths.
> I've had a pair of these for over 25 years and still going strong. These
> have been selling like hot cakes over the past few years.  Even w/ LLB
> ramping up production more each year they still sell out, so if you want
> something soon, get your order in.
>
> I don't work for LLB, I was just born and Maine and am still here and wear
> LLB boots.  Like everyone else, ayuh!
>
>
> CHEERS!
> Wally in Maine
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 7:41:35 AM UTC-5, Michael Rivers wrote:
>>
>> LL Bean boots. Warm, long lasting. Living in the Northeast for years
>> these handle mud, sand, snow when it's cold, and just get hosed off when
>> dirty. I sound like a shill, but after 40 years of using this boot it just
>> works.
>>
>> http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/33549?feat=506794-GN2&page=
>> men-s-l-l-bean-boots-8-thinsulate
>>
>> Michael
>>
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