Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

2013-05-10 Thread LBleriot
It could very well be the tires/wheels that influenced my comparison of the SM 
to the the Ram.  My Roadeo runs on Gran Bois 30 mm.  My Ram sported 
Parigi-Roubaix 27mm (really 29mm) and my SM has Paselas.  All of the wheels are 
traditional box rims laced to Campy hubs.  Neither the Ram nor the SM planes 
the way the Roadeo does for me, especially when climbing.  All are still loads 
of fun.  I think he SM is true value for a Riv designed bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

2013-05-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
When you say spry, do you mean acceleration or turning? curious because
my new-to-me Ram feels outstanding in handling but somewhat sluggish
compared to my customs, even the 559X1.35 Kojak-shod one I rode today. Not
that, in this instance, it's a matter for anguish, since the Ram fills a
wonderful niche for me (fun sport tourer that handles heavy grocery loads),
but I'm curious.

Did your (well, those your rode) Ram and Rod have the same tires?

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:00 PM, LBleriot gary.sch...@att.net wrote:



 This is an interesting quote.  I own a Roadeo and owned a Ram.  I think
 that the San Marcos rides very similarly to the Ram.  Comfy and sure footed
 like the Ram, but not a spry as the Roadeo.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

2013-05-07 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I hear ya.  Since no bike frames are actually fabricated at Walnut Creek,
you could think of your bike as a Panasonic, or a Toyo, or a Waterford, or
a Maxway, or a Curt, or a Joe or a Mark, etc. They all share a designer and
basic principles though, the same ones shared by the San Marcos. So label
it in your mind as you like, but enjoy the ride regardless.

Speaking of actual labels, when I repainted a Road two years ago, it was
important to me to find the correct decal set. Just because I really liked
how they looked on the bike's down tube . I also got with Reynolds for new
tubing decals. They did not have the same ones originally used (French) but
they sent me scans of every old decal they still had available and I found
something suitable. They were nice people to deal with btw.


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's amazing to me how a label, influences how I feel about a given
 product.  I personally prefer no labels on a bicycle if given a choice.
 When I had my Bombadil repainted, I had it done without labels.  I know the
 origin of the frame, the frame knows the origin of the frame, and Rivendell
 knows the origin of the frame.

  I remember being enamored with stickers as a child. Getting some STP
 stickers from the Service Station (back when gas stations were owned and
 run by the same one or two people and actually offered real car service)
 was a grand thing !  Getting the big brand named stickers and products
 was THE thing, to be associated them.  It's all psychological of course,
 and it's alright. I call it today permission slips  anything that
 allows you to feel better about yourself within the realms of your belief
 system, is a permission slip.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

2013-05-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 06:49 -0500, Bruce Herbitter wrote:
 
 Speaking of actual labels, when I repainted a Road two years ago, it
 was important to me to find the correct decal set. Just because I
 really liked how they looked on the bike's down tube . I also got with
 Reynolds for new tubing decals. They did not have the same ones
 originally used (French) but they sent me scans of every old decal
 they still had available and I found something suitable. They were
 nice people to deal with btw.  

A Rivendell Road was built with French diameter tubing?  I didn't think
Waterford was using French diameter 531 at that time.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

2013-05-07 Thread Bruce Herbitter
The labels were written in French. I don't know what tubing specs were
used.  753 frame and stays and 531 fork blades.


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 06:49 -0500, Bruce Herbitter wrote:
 
  Speaking of actual labels, when I repainted a Road two years ago, it
  was important to me to find the correct decal set. Just because I
  really liked how they looked on the bike's down tube . I also got with
  Reynolds for new tubing decals. They did not have the same ones
  originally used (French) but they sent me scans of every old decal
  they still had available and I found something suitable. They were
  nice people to deal with btw.

 A Rivendell Road was built with French diameter tubing?  I didn't think
 Waterford was using French diameter 531 at that time.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

2013-05-02 Thread qwerty
On 5/2/13, EGNolan egno...@gmail.com wrote:
 Something that I don't think has been mentioned is liability. If Rivendell
 isn't sourcing these, isn't making much money per unit and a lot of these
 are being sold ( I assume more are sold than a normal Riv because of the
 widespread reach of Merry Sales compared to Riv) then it makes more sense
 for Rivendell to allow Soma to be on the downtube and take ownership of all

 liability. When you put your name on something, you accept liability should

 something happen, it doesn't always make sense to do that.  Zoom in on the
 photo here, this years ago:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Reader-Issue-Number-10-/170949581543?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27cd639ae7

 Best,
 Eric
 Indpls

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