Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Heavens, I'm Mermaid Platy Mixte forever butdid someone mention custom 
Clem with pearlescent pink paint like the Mermaid?  I would just get my own 
custom headbadge and rename the bike and that would be pretty cool.
Kate


On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 7:16:36 PM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> Jason,
> Interesting thought regarding choosing Gus. I was thinking along those 
> same lines. Somewhere I read a description of the  Gus as a cross between 
> an Atlantis and a Jones LWB, which gets me thinking about the 
> possibilities! Keep posting your ride reports!
> Randy in Wisconsin
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:12:10 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I noticed this in the Sheldon Brown / Grant Petersen interview Will 
>> posted on the site this week. The interview is undated but it must be from 
>> around 1996 because Grant mentions Reader No. 7 and my copy has a postmark 
>> date of May 1996. I'd wager Grant's answer in 2022 would be much different! 
>>
>> *bikesite:* If you could have any - but only one - bike to ride for the 
>> rest of your life, which would it be?
>>
>> *Grant Petersen:* "One bike" wouldn't be a hardship, and the answer 
>> comes easy. It would be a Rivendell All-Rounder, with a Brooks B.17 saddle, 
>> Ritchey Crossbite 1.1 tires, a Ritchey double with 48 x36 rings and a 13 x 
>> 28 6-speed cluster, SunTour bar end shifters, any derailleurs (I don't 
>> care), a Phil bb---it's pretty much a bike we sell, and that's why we sell 
>> it.
>>
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:23:05 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm. I have already responded but now I'm thinking.. Gus Boots would be 
>>> a great pick. I could go literally anywhere, just not especially fast, and 
>>> carry anything I could want to. Probably run 50ish mm tires and fenders 
>>> most of the time, but swap on some 2.6" knobbies for trail rides. Hmmm. 
>>> Yes, that would do nicely.  
>>>
>>> And has the low TT! 
>>>
>>> Let's be honest though my answer will change every day which is why I 
>>> have five bikes. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:37 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Pam! 

 54.3cm ST x 63cm ETT. Which sounds wacky for me at 5'-7" but Grant 
 designed it for my arthritic wrists to have a really high bar reaching way 
 back. I cheated a bit by eventually replacing the Bosco it was supposed to 
 run for a tall-and-stubby DirtDrop stem and Leah Bars. Oops, sorry, I mean 
 Billie Bars! (It's Leah's favorite bar, she's talked a lot of us into them 
 🙂)

 It's a mostly-roads design not intended to carry heavy loads or tackle 
 crazy trails. Zippy and fun! 

 On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Once you have a mixe-ish dropped tube, you won't go back to a 
> horizontal top tube.  Just like dyno lights.  Great looking bike.  What 
> size is it?  I bet it's fun to ride.
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Steel, mixte, this one! I'll own this bicycle as long as I can pedal 
>> it and maybe even after that cuz it's so fun to look at. 
>>
>> Btw as this is a Leah thread I should give her a shoutout for the 
>> design of my Rivendell Custom. It has the mixte-ish dropped tube because 
>> she believes in them and I decided she's right! 
>>
>> #toptubeswhoneedsem
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 10:28:38 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> The expected answer from me, of the bikes I own, would be the 
>>> Bombadil - but I'm not so sure I can say that confidently. It has the 
>>> versatility and tire clearance to be a one-bike, even for my high 
>>> varied 
>>> riding (from brevets to mountain bike trails), but I like how the 
>>> Hillborne 
>>> rides more!  The Hillborne also has a little more TT clearance for me, 
>>> which may become a bigger deal over time, and it's still stout enough 
>>> for 
>>> me to carry a full camping load. Only downside is the tire size 
>>> limitation... Ideally I'd get a custom that is basically a Hillborne 
>>> that 
>>> fits 48's with fenders, but that would be hard to justify ... mind you, 
>>> think of all the money I'd save selling four of my five bikes haha! 
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 06:22:50 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]

 If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a 
 fun question yesterday: 

 You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, 
 and what style - mixte or normal? 

 Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 

 What a question! The frame material and style is ea

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[larson....@gmail.com]

Jason,
Interesting thought regarding choosing Gus. I was thinking along those same 
lines. Somewhere I read a description of the  Gus as a cross between an 
Atlantis and a Jones LWB, which gets me thinking about the possibilities! 
Keep posting your ride reports!
Randy in Wisconsin

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:12:10 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I noticed this in the Sheldon Brown / Grant Petersen interview Will posted 
> on the site this week. The interview is undated but it must be from around 
> 1996 because Grant mentions Reader No. 7 and my copy has a postmark date of 
> May 1996. I'd wager Grant's answer in 2022 would be much different! 
>
> *bikesite:* If you could have any - but only one - bike to ride for the 
> rest of your life, which would it be?
>
> *Grant Petersen:* "One bike" wouldn't be a hardship, and the answer comes 
> easy. It would be a Rivendell All-Rounder, with a Brooks B.17 saddle, 
> Ritchey Crossbite 1.1 tires, a Ritchey double with 48 x36 rings and a 13 x 
> 28 6-speed cluster, SunTour bar end shifters, any derailleurs (I don't 
> care), a Phil bb---it's pretty much a bike we sell, and that's why we sell 
> it.
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:23:05 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Hmmm. I have already responded but now I'm thinking.. Gus Boots would be 
>> a great pick. I could go literally anywhere, just not especially fast, and 
>> carry anything I could want to. Probably run 50ish mm tires and fenders 
>> most of the time, but swap on some 2.6" knobbies for trail rides. Hmmm. 
>> Yes, that would do nicely.  
>>
>> And has the low TT! 
>>
>> Let's be honest though my answer will change every day which is why I 
>> have five bikes. 
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:37 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pam! 
>>>
>>> 54.3cm ST x 63cm ETT. Which sounds wacky for me at 5'-7" but Grant 
>>> designed it for my arthritic wrists to have a really high bar reaching way 
>>> back. I cheated a bit by eventually replacing the Bosco it was supposed to 
>>> run for a tall-and-stubby DirtDrop stem and Leah Bars. Oops, sorry, I mean 
>>> Billie Bars! (It's Leah's favorite bar, she's talked a lot of us into them 
>>> 🙂)
>>>
>>> It's a mostly-roads design not intended to carry heavy loads or tackle 
>>> crazy trails. Zippy and fun! 
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Once you have a mixe-ish dropped tube, you won't go back to a 
 horizontal top tube.  Just like dyno lights.  Great looking bike.  What 
 size is it?  I bet it's fun to ride.

 On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Steel, mixte, this one! I'll own this bicycle as long as I can pedal 
> it and maybe even after that cuz it's so fun to look at. 
>
> Btw as this is a Leah thread I should give her a shoutout for the 
> design of my Rivendell Custom. It has the mixte-ish dropped tube because 
> she believes in them and I decided she's right! 
>
> #toptubeswhoneedsem
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 10:28:38 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> The expected answer from me, of the bikes I own, would be the 
>> Bombadil - but I'm not so sure I can say that confidently. It has the 
>> versatility and tire clearance to be a one-bike, even for my high varied 
>> riding (from brevets to mountain bike trails), but I like how the 
>> Hillborne 
>> rides more!  The Hillborne also has a little more TT clearance for me, 
>> which may become a bigger deal over time, and it's still stout enough 
>> for 
>> me to carry a full camping load. Only downside is the tire size 
>> limitation... Ideally I'd get a custom that is basically a Hillborne 
>> that 
>> fits 48's with fenders, but that would be hard to justify ... mind you, 
>> think of all the money I'd save selling four of my five bikes haha! 
>
>
>>
>> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 06:22:50 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>>
>>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a 
>>> fun question yesterday: 
>>>
>>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, 
>>> and what style - mixte or normal? 
>>>
>>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>>
>>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my 
>>> shopping 
>>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Eric Marth]

I noticed this in the Sheldon Brown / Grant Petersen interview Will posted 
on the site this week. The interview is undated but it must be from around 
1996 because Grant mentions Reader No. 7 and my copy has a postmark date of 
May 1996. I'd wager Grant's answer in 2022 would be much different! 

*bikesite:* If you could have any - but only one - bike to ride for the 
rest of your life, which would it be?

*Grant Petersen:* "One bike" wouldn't be a hardship, and the answer comes 
easy. It would be a Rivendell All-Rounder, with a Brooks B.17 saddle, 
Ritchey Crossbite 1.1 tires, a Ritchey double with 48 x36 rings and a 13 x 
28 6-speed cluster, SunTour bar end shifters, any derailleurs (I don't 
care), a Phil bb---it's pretty much a bike we sell, and that's why we sell 
it.

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:23:05 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Hmmm. I have already responded but now I'm thinking.. Gus Boots would be a 
> great pick. I could go literally anywhere, just not especially fast, and 
> carry anything I could want to. Probably run 50ish mm tires and fenders 
> most of the time, but swap on some 2.6" knobbies for trail rides. Hmmm. 
> Yes, that would do nicely.  
>
> And has the low TT! 
>
> Let's be honest though my answer will change every day which is why I have 
> five bikes. 
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:37 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Hi Pam! 
>>
>> 54.3cm ST x 63cm ETT. Which sounds wacky for me at 5'-7" but Grant 
>> designed it for my arthritic wrists to have a really high bar reaching way 
>> back. I cheated a bit by eventually replacing the Bosco it was supposed to 
>> run for a tall-and-stubby DirtDrop stem and Leah Bars. Oops, sorry, I mean 
>> Billie Bars! (It's Leah's favorite bar, she's talked a lot of us into them 
>> 🙂)
>>
>> It's a mostly-roads design not intended to carry heavy loads or tackle 
>> crazy trails. Zippy and fun! 
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Once you have a mixe-ish dropped tube, you won't go back to a horizontal 
>>> top tube.  Just like dyno lights.  Great looking bike.  What size is it?  I 
>>> bet it's fun to ride.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Steel, mixte, this one! I'll own this bicycle as long as I can pedal it 
 and maybe even after that cuz it's so fun to look at. 

 Btw as this is a Leah thread I should give her a shoutout for the 
 design of my Rivendell Custom. It has the mixte-ish dropped tube because 
 she believes in them and I decided she's right! 

 #toptubeswhoneedsem

 Joe Bernard

 On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 10:28:38 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> The expected answer from me, of the bikes I own, would be the Bombadil 
> - but I'm not so sure I can say that confidently. It has the versatility 
> and tire clearance to be a one-bike, even for my high varied riding (from 
> brevets to mountain bike trails), but I like how the Hillborne rides 
> more!  
> The Hillborne also has a little more TT clearance for me, which may 
> become 
> a bigger deal over time, and it's still stout enough for me to carry a 
> full 
> camping load. Only downside is the tire size limitation... Ideally I'd 
> get 
> a custom that is basically a Hillborne that fits 48's with fenders, but 
> that would be hard to justify ... mind you, think of all the money I'd 
> save 
> selling four of my five bikes haha! 


>
> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 06:22:50 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>
>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a 
>> fun question yesterday: 
>>
>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
>> what style - mixte or normal? 
>>
>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>
>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>>
>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Jason Fuller]

Hmmm. I have already responded but now I'm thinking.. Gus Boots would be a
great pick. I could go literally anywhere, just not especially fast, and
carry anything I could want to. Probably run 50ish mm tires and fenders
most of the time, but swap on some 2.6" knobbies for trail rides. Hmmm.
Yes, that would do nicely.

And has the low TT!

Let's be honest though my answer will change every day which is why I have
five bikes.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:37 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Hi Pam!
>
> 54.3cm ST x 63cm ETT. Which sounds wacky for me at 5'-7" but Grant
> designed it for my arthritic wrists to have a really high bar reaching way
> back. I cheated a bit by eventually replacing the Bosco it was supposed to
> run for a tall-and-stubby DirtDrop stem and Leah Bars. Oops, sorry, I mean
> Billie Bars! (It's Leah's favorite bar, she's talked a lot of us into them
> 🙂)
>
> It's a mostly-roads design not intended to carry heavy loads or tackle
> crazy trails. Zippy and fun!
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Once you have a mixe-ish dropped tube, you won't go back to a horizontal
>> top tube.  Just like dyno lights.  Great looking bike.  What size is it?  I
>> bet it's fun to ride.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Steel, mixte, this one! I'll own this bicycle as long as I can pedal it
>>> and maybe even after that cuz it's so fun to look at.
>>>
>>> Btw as this is a Leah thread I should give her a shoutout for the design
>>> of my Rivendell Custom. It has the mixte-ish dropped tube because she
>>> believes in them and I decided she's right!
>>>
>>> #toptubeswhoneedsem
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 10:28:38 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 The expected answer from me, of the bikes I own, would be the Bombadil
 - but I'm not so sure I can say that confidently. It has the versatility
 and tire clearance to be a one-bike, even for my high varied riding (from
 brevets to mountain bike trails), but I like how the Hillborne rides more!
 The Hillborne also has a little more TT clearance for me, which may become
 a bigger deal over time, and it's still stout enough for me to carry a full
 camping load. Only downside is the tire size limitation... Ideally I'd get
 a custom that is basically a Hillborne that fits 48's with fenders, but
 that would be hard to justify ... mind you, think of all the money I'd save
 selling four of my five bikes haha!
>>>
>>>

 On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 06:22:50 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
 wrote:

> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image:
> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>
> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun
> question yesterday:
>
> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and
> what style - mixte or normal?
>
> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art.
>
> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a
> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry
> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping
> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring
> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the
> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful,
> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value.
>
> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a
> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Ron Cramer]

What bars are those? Choco or Chocomoose?

On Sat, Apr 2, 2022, 9:03 AM George Schick  wrote:

> Given that qualifier, I'd have to say after doing a fingers and toes count
> of every bike I've ever owned, starting with a 24" Schwinn cantilever
> framed bike back in the mid-50's, that the diamond framed steel Rambouillet
> is not only the bike I'd like to have for the rest of my life (and plan
> to), but *the* bike I wish I would have had all along during the past 50
> or so years of "serious" cycling.  'Course, I've never owned any other
> frame styles that fall into the mixte or step-through categories and it may
> well happen that I'll eventually become too old and decrepit to be able to
> throw my leg over the top tube of a diamond frame and will need to get a
> mixte or step-through of some kind, something with which I will have no
> problem.  Maybe I'll just ride my wife's Breezer Uptown.
>
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:35:24 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> I think Grant, in his casual manner of speaking, means “typical.” And I
>> take that to refer to diamond frame.
>>
>> I might say that no one has worked harder to make mixtes/step-through
>> frames acceptable to men than Rivendell. Erasing the Clem H and only
>> offering that model in the L version was huge. And now I see men of all
>> ages riding Clem Ls and the connotation to “girl bike” is fading.
>> Leah
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, George Schick  wrote:
>>
>> Curious that he uses the term "normal" for other than mixte.  What's
>> "normal"?  A diamond shaped road frame?  A step-through (which is different
>> than mixte)?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 8:22:50 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image:
>>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>>
>>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun
>>> question yesterday:
>>>
>>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and
>>> what style - mixte or normal?
>>>
>>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art.
>>>
>>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a
>>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry
>>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping
>>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring
>>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the
>>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful,
>>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value.
>>>
>>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a
>>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Jared Wilson]

Corwin,

Very glad you've shared, it's always a joy to hear about Charlie, and as 
someone who is currently piecing together a Hubbuhubbuh I can't help but 
hope for some visuals of the aforementioned Hubbuh's to accompany the 
stories.

I'd love to see photos of both rigs next time the opportunity presents 
itself, not a lot of info on them out there so it would be nice to have 
some documentation of the two.

Best

Jared

On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 5:23:59 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> So here is a Rived out upright tadpole trike that I have been working on 
> for someone who has been having balance problems, Shiny Rear Rack, Huge 
> Wald with Captain Hook Basket Net, MKS RMX Sneaker pedals, Shimano Altus 
> M310 rear derailleur (the ultimate derailleur for 20" wheel cycles lots of 
> chain wrap with a short pulley cage), fatter Schwalbe tires (20x2 Big 
> apples on front, 20x2.15 Big Ben on the rear). Need to trim the tie-wraps.
>
> [image: Trike2.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:40:36 PM UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
>> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
>> get.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2022, at 1:11 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> It's funny, but that question didn't have me thinking one bike to last 
>> through old age, but one bike to deal with whatever apocalypses the future 
>> might bring. I definitely need to ride & chill out more.
>>
>> For me it would be a steel frame mixte, that can fit 55mm tires, minimum 
>> 50mm tires, but without the longer chain stays Riv now prefers.
>>
>> I'm an urban dweller / rider and I need my bikes to fit in smaller rooms, 
>> easy to carry up & down stairwells, through narrower hallways, elevators, 
>> etc. If I lived in a house with a garage, chain stay length probably 
>> wouldn't be a problem. My MUSA Hunqapillar & MUSA AHH have smooth, stable 
>> rides, and while for me the longer chain stay lengths do make for a great, 
>> gliding ride, the longer chain stays are overkill, too long and a deal 
>> breaker.
>>
>> And no, a Brompton is NOT a substitute for a Rivendell, although I guess 
>> it qualifies as a steel mixte?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:22:50 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>>
>>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>>> question yesterday: 
>>>
>>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
>>> what style - mixte or normal? 
>>>
>>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>>
>>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
>>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
>>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>>>
>>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
>>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Corwin]

Thanks very much for all the sentiments about my original custom. The worst 
part about having a bike stolen is not being able to use the same 
components building a replacement because they are no longer available. The 
best part is being able to try new stuff like Onyx hubs with the Spraag 
clutch.

I readily admit there are lots of people who love step-thru and mixte 
frames and prefer them. For whatever reason. I have no problem there. I 
ride several times every week with two of them. I am married to one of 
them. My wife would not ride if it were not for our Hubbuhubbuh. She bugs 
me several times every week to take her out for a ride. She is disabled and 
cannot ride without me. But even before she was disabled, she was not 
interested in exercise in any form. The step-thru stoker position makes it 
easy for her to enjoy a bike ride.

Another fan of the Hubbuhubbuh step-thru stoker position is Charlie 
Cunningham. We usually ride once each week. Charlie is no slouch (got tenth 
at NORBA). You cannot make him sore or short of breath. An all day bike 
ride with lots of hills (such as climbing Mt Tam, or Fairfax to Petaluma 
and back) will tire him out. But Charlie has pistons for legs. He is a 
powerful stoker. But he prefers riding upright in a step-thru frame.

I care not for step-thru or upright. My Hubbuhubbuh and the 
Cunningham-Phelan Hubbuhubbuh provide me with a stark contrast. Mine is set 
up with Albastache and a Fizik Aliante saddle. When I take my wife out, it 
just feels natural. As if the bike was molded beneath me as I got on. I 
think there is a lot to muscle memory. I spent many years in an aerodynamic 
crouch (but not the aerodynamic crouch of today with arm rests, elbows 
tucked, etc), churning up the hills of southern California. When I'm on the 
Phelan-Cunningham Hubbuhubbuh, I feel as though I have to work much harder 
to climb a given hill or maintain a given pace. I am sure Grant and Mark 
are much faster than me - even riding upright. Speed is not the point for 
me. Riding in drops/mustache/alabstche/etc. just feels right.

Thanks,


Corwin
On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> LOL!   Good joke!  
>
> Patrick Moore himself picked a steel diamond frame to be his only bike. 
> If Patrick Moore won't pick a trike as his forever bike, there is no way 
> in hell I'm going to!  
>
> Seriously though, to repeat, if I could only ride a trike I would rarely 
> ride at all in the Bay Area.  If I could only ride a trike, the logistics 
> of getting the thing into and out of my garage would be a major 
> discouragement.  Even a racing trike which I probably could do a brevet on 
> (and which is steel, let's acknowledge), I wouldn't want to be that wide on 
> a San Francisco Randonneurs event.  If I had to just ride a trike, I would 
> either quit cycling altogether -OR- I would have to build a different life 
> for myself, in a different location.  I'm sure those places exist, but I 
> don't live in one of those places.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 10:18 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> .. If I had to give up all my bikes and only use a trike, I'd 
>>> regretfully but probably quickly become much less of a cyclist.  I'd be 
>>> scared to ride in traffic.  It would be a very difficult extraction from my 
>>> garage.  My randonneuring career would be immediately over with.  I 
>>> couldn't handle sacrificing the relatively fit 53-70 years of my cycling 
>>> career in exchange for the insurance of having a trike on hand in my 90s.  
>>> Too high a price. 
>>>
>>
>> Bill: This could be you at 90 (well, you'd have to dye your hair):
>> [image: image.png]
>> Or, more age-appropriate. These guys must be pushing 90:
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Patrick "the funnest part of riding a trike is cornering" Moore, who sort 
>> of misses his 2.
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Joe Bernard]

I did the tadpole trike thing for a couple years, I saw one in Berkeley and 
thought it was cool! But it was too low around cars, too wide for bike 
lanes and too hard to transport and store..as you say they need a specific 
environment to operate in that we don't live in. Also they attract too much 
attention, I would be a terrible famous person! 

So. Mixte. Steel. 

Joe Bernard 



On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> LOL!   Good joke!  
>
> Patrick Moore himself picked a steel diamond frame to be his only bike. 
> If Patrick Moore won't pick a trike as his forever bike, there is no way 
> in hell I'm going to!  
>
> Seriously though, to repeat, if I could only ride a trike I would rarely 
> ride at all in the Bay Area.  If I could only ride a trike, the logistics 
> of getting the thing into and out of my garage would be a major 
> discouragement.  Even a racing trike which I probably could do a brevet on 
> (and which is steel, let's acknowledge), I wouldn't want to be that wide on 
> a San Francisco Randonneurs event.  If I had to just ride a trike, I would 
> either quit cycling altogether -OR- I would have to build a different life 
> for myself, in a different location.  I'm sure those places exist, but I 
> don't live in one of those places.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 10:18 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> .. If I had to give up all my bikes and only use a trike, I'd 
>>> regretfully but probably quickly become much less of a cyclist.  I'd be 
>>> scared to ride in traffic.  It would be a very difficult extraction from my 
>>> garage.  My randonneuring career would be immediately over with.  I 
>>> couldn't handle sacrificing the relatively fit 53-70 years of my cycling 
>>> career in exchange for the insurance of having a trike on hand in my 90s.  
>>> Too high a price. 
>>>
>>
>> Bill: This could be you at 90 (well, you'd have to dye your hair):
>> [image: image.png]
>> Or, more age-appropriate. These guys must be pushing 90:
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Patrick "the funnest part of riding a trike is cornering" Moore, who sort 
>> of misses his 2.
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Bill Lindsay]

LOL!   Good joke!  

Patrick Moore himself picked a steel diamond frame to be his only bike. 
If Patrick Moore won't pick a trike as his forever bike, there is no way in 
hell I'm going to!  

Seriously though, to repeat, if I could only ride a trike I would rarely 
ride at all in the Bay Area.  If I could only ride a trike, the logistics 
of getting the thing into and out of my garage would be a major 
discouragement.  Even a racing trike which I probably could do a brevet on 
(and which is steel, let's acknowledge), I wouldn't want to be that wide on 
a San Francisco Randonneurs event.  If I had to just ride a trike, I would 
either quit cycling altogether -OR- I would have to build a different life 
for myself, in a different location.  I'm sure those places exist, but I 
don't live in one of those places.  

BL in EC

On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 10:18 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> .. If I had to give up all my bikes and only use a trike, I'd regretfully 
>> but probably quickly become much less of a cyclist.  I'd be scared to ride 
>> in traffic.  It would be a very difficult extraction from my garage.  My 
>> randonneuring career would be immediately over with.  I couldn't handle 
>> sacrificing the relatively fit 53-70 years of my cycling career in exchange 
>> for the insurance of having a trike on hand in my 90s.  Too high a price. 
>>
>
> Bill: This could be you at 90 (well, you'd have to dye your hair):
> [image: image.png]
> Or, more age-appropriate. These guys must be pushing 90:
> [image: image.png]
>
> Patrick "the funnest part of riding a trike is cornering" Moore, who sort 
> of misses his 2.
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[MoVelo]

I'm still loving my Rambouillet and would probably be it if I had to pick 
just one. Currently set up with 650Bx42's it makes a very comfy and 
beautiful gravel bike. :-)

JP in Goatville
On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 12:35:04 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Yes, Corwin, I agree with Ryan. Hearing that your custom was stolen made 
> my stomach turn. I’m so sorry. 
>
> I also embrace the idea of keeping as fit as one can as one ages. I think 
> about this more than I like to admit (I’m 41 now, and while 40 didn’t scare 
> me, 50 sure does). I really changed how I cook about 7 or 8 years ago 
> (organic produce, pasture-raised meats, and I make nearly everything from 
> scratch) in hopes of avoiding the diseases that plague so many Americans. I 
> have added a a lot of different workouts to my routine, too, the best of 
> which are weights and core. I take photos so I can see progress.
>
> I know what you mean, Corwin, about the guys older than you being 
> incredibly fit. I have met these people! I attended a talk with a trio who 
> mountain biked the Great Divide. Three retirement-age, white-haired men 
> stood up to give the talk. Incredible! I think of the man on this List who 
> rides his orange Appaloosa - he’s in his 80s and has done crazy mileage. He 
> says people ask him how he does it and he says, “I can do it because I do 
> it.” I hope my trio of bikes can be my companions, riding with me through 
> the upcoming decades and growing old with me. 
>
> And to that end, please enjoy this nonagenarian on her steel mixte. Don’t 
> you love her?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2s0aGCVet0
>
> Leah
>
> On Apr 9, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> Yikes,Corwin...sorry to hear about the theft of your 1st custom given 
> that customs are hardly a spur-of-the-moment purchase...also true for any 
> non-customs on this list
>
>
> So...that being said, hypothetically being forced to pick one is like 
> picking just one of your kids, if you have children
>
> If I get so inflexible I can't swing a leg over; guess it's my 2016 custom 
> Riv mixte
>
> But I'm not going gently into that good night
>
>
> On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 1:15:30 AM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:
>
>> I readily admit that mixte and step-through frames serve a valuable 
>> purpose for those with trouble throwing a leg over the rear wheel, saddle, 
>> top tube, etc. But I reject the notion that one must slow down just because 
>> they have achieved a certain age. I have been on numerous club rides in the 
>> hills of the East Bay where guys as much as thirty years older than me 
>> simply rode away from me on the hills. I'm a decent climber - and not only 
>> have they ridden away from me going uphill - they have ridden away going 
>> down as well!
>>
>> I think there is a great deal of value in maintaining the flexibility 
>> required to throw a leg over. I see no reason to stop now or ever. Like 
>> Grant, I plan to ride (and surf, scuba dive, etc.) right up to the end. We 
>> need not be stopped by the aging process.
>>
>> My one bike would be a close contest between my original custom and my 
>> Bianchi Cross Project. My original custom was stolen a little more than a 
>> year ago. A new one is in the works. I hope to be on it by the end of the 
>> year.
>>
>> Namaste,
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:37:02 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick,
>>>
>>> I don't know if I have mentioned this before,  but your green custom 
>>> Matthews with SA hub is a thing of beauty.
>>>
>>> Ian A Alberta Canada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:09:07 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one 
 only, which one?

 Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to 
 propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's 
 your life; I don't care. Which *second* bike would you keep, after 
 relegating #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another 
 responder already broached this thread extension.

 I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" 
 wheel Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear 
 and very weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 
 was 
 a near clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall, 
 thinner gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That 
 the 
 '03 was too stout I realized after 15 years.

 Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.

 [image: image.png]

 On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:

> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice 
> for 
> th

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Leah Peterson]

Yes, Corwin, I agree with Ryan. Hearing that your custom was stolen made my 
stomach turn. I’m so sorry. 

I also embrace the idea of keeping as fit as one can as one ages. I think about 
this more than I like to admit (I’m 41 now, and while 40 didn’t scare me, 50 
sure does). I really changed how I cook about 7 or 8 years ago (organic 
produce, pasture-raised meats, and I make nearly everything from scratch) in 
hopes of avoiding the diseases that plague so many Americans. I have added a a 
lot of different workouts to my routine, too, the best of which are weights and 
core. I take photos so I can see progress.

I know what you mean, Corwin, about the guys older than you being incredibly 
fit. I have met these people! I attended a talk with a trio who mountain biked 
the Great Divide. Three retirement-age, white-haired men stood up to give the 
talk. Incredible! I think of the man on this List who rides his orange 
Appaloosa - he’s in his 80s and has done crazy mileage. He says people ask him 
how he does it and he says, “I can do it because I do it.” I hope my trio of 
bikes can be my companions, riding with me through the upcoming decades and 
growing old with me. 

And to that end, please enjoy this nonagenarian on her steel mixte. Don’t you 
love her?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2s0aGCVet0

Leah

> On Apr 9, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> 
> Yikes,Corwin...sorry to hear about the theft of your 1st custom given that 
> customs are hardly a spur-of-the-moment purchase...also true for any 
> non-customs on this list
> 
> So...that being said, hypothetically being forced to pick one is like picking 
> just one of your kids, if you have children
> 
> If I get so inflexible I can't swing a leg over; guess it's my 2016 custom 
> Riv mixte
> 
> But I'm not going gently into that good night
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 1:15:30 AM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:
>> I readily admit that mixte and step-through frames serve a valuable purpose 
>> for those with trouble throwing a leg over the rear wheel, saddle, top tube, 
>> etc. But I reject the notion that one must slow down just because they have 
>> achieved a certain age. I have been on numerous club rides in the hills of 
>> the East Bay where guys as much as thirty years older than me simply rode 
>> away from me on the hills. I'm a decent climber - and not only have they 
>> ridden away from me going uphill - they have ridden away going down as well!
>> 
>> I think there is a great deal of value in maintaining the flexibility 
>> required to throw a leg over. I see no reason to stop now or ever. Like 
>> Grant, I plan to ride (and surf, scuba dive, etc.) right up to the end. We 
>> need not be stopped by the aging process.
>> 
>> My one bike would be a close contest between my original custom and my 
>> Bianchi Cross Project. My original custom was stolen a little more than a 
>> year ago. A new one is in the works. I hope to be on it by the end of the 
>> year.
>> 
>> Namaste,
>> 
>> 
>> Corwin
>> 
>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:37:02 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>>> Patrick,
>>> 
>>> I don't know if I have mentioned this before,  but your green custom 
>>> Matthews with SA hub is a thing of beauty.
>>> 
>>> Ian A Alberta Canada
>>> 
>>> 
 On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:09:07 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
 The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one 
 only, which one?
 
 Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to 
 propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's 
 your life; I don't care. Which second bike would you keep, after 
 relegating #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another 
 responder already broached this thread extension.
 
 I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" wheel 
 Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear and 
 very weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 was a 
 near clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall, 
 thinner gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That 
 the '03 was too stout I realized after 15 years.
 
 Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.
 
 
 
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice 
> for those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance 
> issues. Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of 
> my life it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as 
> you can get.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, most production trikes are aluminum, it's cheaper than ti and you can 
actually buy one. I haven't seen a titanium trike in ages. 

On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 9:51:45 AM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:

> So I don’t actually know anything about metallurgy, aluminum just seems to 
> be what most trikes are made of, and it’s a common enough frame material 
> that I presume it’s possible to repair it — after all, aluminum airframes 
> from the 40s are still flying. I also suspect that it’s possible to build a 
> good, durable frame out of any number of different materials, so I’m happy 
> to think outside the Riv paradigm. I grant that “forever bike” fantasies 
> invite exotic builds, but for purposes of this thought experiment I’m happy 
> to limit myself to bikes that I can buy off the rack.
>
> Obviously it’s possible to be fit at any age, and I plan to stay 
> physically active as long as I am able. But while getting older isn’t 
> inherently pathologic, aging is a risk factor for pretty much every 
> illness. Some diseases largely are avoidable through lifestyle choices, and 
> others come down to genetics and happenstance. If you’re unlucky enough to 
> to have a fused spine because you were T-boned by a drunk driver then 
> that’s going impose some physical limitations. So when I think about One 
> Bike To Rule Them All I can’t help but consider contingencies that are out 
> of my control.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Apr 9, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Jay Lonner indicated they'd select an aluminum e-assist trike to be their 
> "forever ride"  
>
>
> That's super interesting.  Why would aluminum be your ultimate frame 
> material?  I could see choosing Titanium if you wanted to be contrary to 
> the RBW-echo-chamber of Steel.  I can't think of any reason that Aluminum 
> would be preferable to Ti.  Is it on environmental grounds?  
>
> If I had to give up all my bikes and only use a trike, I'd regretfully but 
> probably quickly become much less of a cyclist.  I'd be scared to ride in 
> traffic.  It would be a very difficult extraction from my garage.  My 
> randonneuring career would be immediately over with.  I couldn't handle 
> sacrificing the relatively fit 53-70 years of my cycling career in exchange 
> for the insurance of having a trike on hand in my 90s.  Too high a price.  
>
> I think I'm more in the Corwin camp.  I would choose a bicycle and 
> endeavor to remain as fit as possible for as long as possible.  When age 
> makes it impossible for me to use a bicycle I'll content myself with 
> walking or other activities.  I'd choose a custom steel mixte, (an actual 
> mixte with two skinny top tubes).  I could spec a custom mixte with the 
> frame numbers that allow me to run drop bars with a very short stem so my 
> custom mixte would serve as my sporting machine for the remainder of my 
> Rando 50s and beyond.  When the time comes, converting it to a more upright 
> with a longer stem would be straightforward.  
>
> I wonder if e-bike motors have a useful service life of 40 years?  I know 
> automobile electric motors have sensational longevity.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 3:40:36 PM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
>> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
>> get.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2022, at 1:11 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> It's funny, but that question didn't have me thinking one bike to last 
>> through old age, but one bike to deal with whatever apocalypses the future 
>> might bring. I definitely need to ride & chill out more.
>>
>> For me it would be a steel frame mixte, that can fit 55mm tires, minimum 
>> 50mm tires, but without the longer chain stays Riv now prefers.
>>
>> I'm an urban dweller / rider and I need my bikes to fit in smaller rooms, 
>> easy to carry up & down stairwells, through narrower hallways, elevators, 
>> etc. If I lived in a house with a garage, chain stay length probably 
>> wouldn't be a problem. My MUSA Hunqapillar & MUSA AHH have smooth, stable 
>> rides, and while for me the longer chain stay lengths do make for a great, 
>> gliding ride, the longer chain stays are overkill, too long and a deal 
>> breaker.
>>
>> And no, a Brompton is NOT a substitute for a Rivendell, although I guess 
>> it qualifies as a steel mixte?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:22:50 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 115

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Jay Lonner]

So I don’t actually know anything about metallurgy, aluminum just seems to be 
what most trikes are made of, and it’s a common enough frame material that I 
presume it’s possible to repair it — after all, aluminum airframes from the 40s 
are still flying. I also suspect that it’s possible to build a good, durable 
frame out of any number of different materials, so I’m happy to think outside 
the Riv paradigm. I grant that “forever bike” fantasies invite exotic builds, 
but for purposes of this thought experiment I’m happy to limit myself to bikes 
that I can buy off the rack.

Obviously it’s possible to be fit at any age, and I plan to stay physically 
active as long as I am able. But while getting older isn’t inherently 
pathologic, aging is a risk factor for pretty much every illness. Some diseases 
largely are avoidable through lifestyle choices, and others come down to 
genetics and happenstance. If you’re unlucky enough to to have a fused spine 
because you were T-boned by a drunk driver then that’s going impose some 
physical limitations. So when I think about One Bike To Rule Them All I can’t 
help but consider contingencies that are out of my control.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

Sent from my Atari 400

> On Apr 9, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> Jay Lonner indicated they'd select an aluminum e-assist trike to be their 
> "forever ride"  
> 
> That's super interesting.  Why would aluminum be your ultimate frame 
> material?  I could see choosing Titanium if you wanted to be contrary to the 
> RBW-echo-chamber of Steel.  I can't think of any reason that Aluminum would 
> be preferable to Ti.  Is it on environmental grounds?  
> 
> If I had to give up all my bikes and only use a trike, I'd regretfully but 
> probably quickly become much less of a cyclist.  I'd be scared to ride in 
> traffic.  It would be a very difficult extraction from my garage.  My 
> randonneuring career would be immediately over with.  I couldn't handle 
> sacrificing the relatively fit 53-70 years of my cycling career in exchange 
> for the insurance of having a trike on hand in my 90s.  Too high a price.  
> 
> I think I'm more in the Corwin camp.  I would choose a bicycle and endeavor 
> to remain as fit as possible for as long as possible.  When age makes it 
> impossible for me to use a bicycle I'll content myself with walking or other 
> activities.  I'd choose a custom steel mixte, (an actual mixte with two 
> skinny top tubes).  I could spec a custom mixte with the frame numbers that 
> allow me to run drop bars with a very short stem so my custom mixte would 
> serve as my sporting machine for the remainder of my Rando 50s and beyond.  
> When the time comes, converting it to a more upright with a longer stem would 
> be straightforward.  
> 
> I wonder if e-bike motors have a useful service life of 40 years?  I know 
> automobile electric motors have sensational longevity.  
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 3:40:36 PM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:
>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life it’d 
>> be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can get.
>> 
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>> 
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>> 
 On Apr 7, 2022, at 1:11 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> It's funny, but that question didn't have me thinking one bike to last 
>>> through old age, but one bike to deal with whatever apocalypses the future 
>>> might bring. I definitely need to ride & chill out more.
>>> 
>>> For me it would be a steel frame mixte, that can fit 55mm tires, minimum 
>>> 50mm tires, but without the longer chain stays Riv now prefers.
>>> 
>>> I'm an urban dweller / rider and I need my bikes to fit in smaller rooms, 
>>> easy to carry up & down stairwells, through narrower hallways, elevators, 
>>> etc. If I lived in a house with a garage, chain stay length probably 
>>> wouldn't be a problem. My MUSA Hunqapillar & MUSA AHH have smooth, stable 
>>> rides, and while for me the longer chain stay lengths do make for a great, 
>>> gliding ride, the longer chain stays are overkill, too long and a deal 
>>> breaker.
>>> 
>>> And no, a Brompton is NOT a substitute for a Rivendell, although I guess it 
>>> qualifies as a steel mixte?
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:22:50 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
> question yesterday: 
> 
> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
> what style - mixte or normal? 
> 
> A

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Ryan]

Yikes,Corwin...sorry to hear about the theft of your 1st custom given that 
customs are hardly a spur-of-the-moment purchase...also true for any 
non-customs on this list

So...that being said, hypothetically being forced to pick one is like 
picking just one of your kids, if you have children

If I get so inflexible I can't swing a leg over; guess it's my 2016 custom 
Riv mixte

But I'm not going gently into that good night


On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 1:15:30 AM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:

> I readily admit that mixte and step-through frames serve a valuable 
> purpose for those with trouble throwing a leg over the rear wheel, saddle, 
> top tube, etc. But I reject the notion that one must slow down just because 
> they have achieved a certain age. I have been on numerous club rides in the 
> hills of the East Bay where guys as much as thirty years older than me 
> simply rode away from me on the hills. I'm a decent climber - and not only 
> have they ridden away from me going uphill - they have ridden away going 
> down as well!
>
> I think there is a great deal of value in maintaining the flexibility 
> required to throw a leg over. I see no reason to stop now or ever. Like 
> Grant, I plan to ride (and surf, scuba dive, etc.) right up to the end. We 
> need not be stopped by the aging process.
>
> My one bike would be a close contest between my original custom and my 
> Bianchi Cross Project. My original custom was stolen a little more than a 
> year ago. A new one is in the works. I hope to be on it by the end of the 
> year.
>
> Namaste,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:37:02 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> I don't know if I have mentioned this before,  but your green custom 
>> Matthews with SA hub is a thing of beauty.
>>
>> Ian A Alberta Canada
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:09:07 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one 
>>> only, which one?
>>>
>>> Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to 
>>> propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's 
>>> your life; I don't care. Which *second* bike would you keep, after 
>>> relegating #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another 
>>> responder already broached this thread extension.
>>>
>>> I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" 
>>> wheel Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear 
>>> and very weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 was 
>>> a near clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall, 
>>> thinner gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That the 
>>> '03 was too stout I realized after 15 years.
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>>>
 Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
 attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
 agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
 those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
 Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
 it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
 get.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Bill Lindsay]

Jay Lonner indicated they'd select an aluminum e-assist trike to be their 
"forever ride"  

That's super interesting.  Why would aluminum be your ultimate frame 
material?  I could see choosing Titanium if you wanted to be contrary to 
the RBW-echo-chamber of Steel.  I can't think of any reason that Aluminum 
would be preferable to Ti.  Is it on environmental grounds?  

If I had to give up all my bikes and only use a trike, I'd regretfully but 
probably quickly become much less of a cyclist.  I'd be scared to ride in 
traffic.  It would be a very difficult extraction from my garage.  My 
randonneuring career would be immediately over with.  I couldn't handle 
sacrificing the relatively fit 53-70 years of my cycling career in exchange 
for the insurance of having a trike on hand in my 90s.  Too high a price.  

I think I'm more in the Corwin camp.  I would choose a bicycle and endeavor 
to remain as fit as possible for as long as possible.  When age makes it 
impossible for me to use a bicycle I'll content myself with walking or 
other activities.  I'd choose a custom steel mixte, (an actual mixte with 
two skinny top tubes).  I could spec a custom mixte with the frame numbers 
that allow me to run drop bars with a very short stem so my custom mixte 
would serve as my sporting machine for the remainder of my Rando 50s and 
beyond.  When the time comes, converting it to a more upright with a longer 
stem would be straightforward.  

I wonder if e-bike motors have a useful service life of 40 years?  I know 
automobile electric motors have sensational longevity.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 3:40:36 PM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:

> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
> get.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Apr 7, 2022, at 1:11 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> It's funny, but that question didn't have me thinking one bike to last 
> through old age, but one bike to deal with whatever apocalypses the future 
> might bring. I definitely need to ride & chill out more.
>
> For me it would be a steel frame mixte, that can fit 55mm tires, minimum 
> 50mm tires, but without the longer chain stays Riv now prefers.
>
> I'm an urban dweller / rider and I need my bikes to fit in smaller rooms, 
> easy to carry up & down stairwells, through narrower hallways, elevators, 
> etc. If I lived in a house with a garage, chain stay length probably 
> wouldn't be a problem. My MUSA Hunqapillar & MUSA AHH have smooth, stable 
> rides, and while for me the longer chain stay lengths do make for a great, 
> gliding ride, the longer chain stays are overkill, too long and a deal 
> breaker.
>
> And no, a Brompton is NOT a substitute for a Rivendell, although I guess 
> it qualifies as a steel mixte?
>
> John
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:22:50 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>
>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>> question yesterday: 
>>
>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
>> what style - mixte or normal? 
>>
>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>
>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>>
>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Patrick Moore]

Thank you for the kind word.

BTW: You were interested in the TC hub, the one that I had rechromed.
Wheels with it and the TF are even as we speak jetting their way home, and
I'll post you a photo.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 11:37 PM Ian A  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I don't know if I have mentioned this before,  but your green custom
> Matthews with SA hub is a thing of beauty.
>
> Ian A Alberta Canada
>
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:09:07 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one
>> only, which one?
>>
>> Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to
>> propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's
>> your life; I don't care. Which *second* bike would you keep, after
>> relegating #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another
>> responder already broached this thread extension.
>>
>> I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26"
>> wheel Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear
>> and very weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 was
>> a near clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall,
>> thinner gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That the
>> '03 was too stout I realized after 15 years.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>>
>>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call
>>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I
>>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for
>>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues.
>>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life
>>> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can
>>> get.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Joe Bernard]

I don't actually use the mixte feature much for mount/dismount, I still 
lean the bike towards me and swing my leg over the back of the saddle cuz 
it's what I've always done. I like the low toptube for hopping off the 
saddle at stops and standing over the frame..there isn't all this BIKE in 
the way. 

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 11:15:30 PM UTC-7 Corwin wrote:

> I readily admit that mixte and step-through frames serve a valuable 
> purpose for those with trouble throwing a leg over the rear wheel, saddle, 
> top tube, etc. But I reject the notion that one must slow down just because 
> they have achieved a certain age. I have been on numerous club rides in the 
> hills of the East Bay where guys as much as thirty years older than me 
> simply rode away from me on the hills. I'm a decent climber - and not only 
> have they ridden away from me going uphill - they have ridden away going 
> down as well!
>
> I think there is a great deal of value in maintaining the flexibility 
> required to throw a leg over. I see no reason to stop now or ever. Like 
> Grant, I plan to ride (and surf, scuba dive, etc.) right up to the end. We 
> need not be stopped by the aging process.
>
> My one bike would be a close contest between my original custom and my 
> Bianchi Cross Project. My original custom was stolen a little more than a 
> year ago. A new one is in the works. I hope to be on it by the end of the 
> year.
>
> Namaste,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:37:02 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> I don't know if I have mentioned this before,  but your green custom 
>> Matthews with SA hub is a thing of beauty.
>>
>> Ian A Alberta Canada
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:09:07 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one 
>>> only, which one?
>>>
>>> Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to 
>>> propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's 
>>> your life; I don't care. Which *second* bike would you keep, after 
>>> relegating #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another 
>>> responder already broached this thread extension.
>>>
>>> I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" 
>>> wheel Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear 
>>> and very weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 was 
>>> a near clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall, 
>>> thinner gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That the 
>>> '03 was too stout I realized after 15 years.
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>>>
 Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
 attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
 agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
 those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
 Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
 it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
 get.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Corwin]

I readily admit that mixte and step-through frames serve a valuable purpose 
for those with trouble throwing a leg over the rear wheel, saddle, top 
tube, etc. But I reject the notion that one must slow down just because 
they have achieved a certain age. I have been on numerous club rides in the 
hills of the East Bay where guys as much as thirty years older than me 
simply rode away from me on the hills. I'm a decent climber - and not only 
have they ridden away from me going uphill - they have ridden away going 
down as well!

I think there is a great deal of value in maintaining the flexibility 
required to throw a leg over. I see no reason to stop now or ever. Like 
Grant, I plan to ride (and surf, scuba dive, etc.) right up to the end. We 
need not be stopped by the aging process.

My one bike would be a close contest between my original custom and my 
Bianchi Cross Project. My original custom was stolen a little more than a 
year ago. A new one is in the works. I hope to be on it by the end of the 
year.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:37:02 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I don't know if I have mentioned this before,  but your green custom 
> Matthews with SA hub is a thing of beauty.
>
> Ian A Alberta Canada
>
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:09:07 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one 
>> only, which one?
>>
>> Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to 
>> propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's 
>> your life; I don't care. Which *second* bike would you keep, after 
>> relegating #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another 
>> responder already broached this thread extension.
>>
>> I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" 
>> wheel Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear 
>> and very weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 was 
>> a near clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall, 
>> thinner gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That the 
>> '03 was too stout I realized after 15 years.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>>
>>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
>>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
>>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
>>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
>>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
>>> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
>>> get.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Ian A]

Patrick,

I don't know if I have mentioned this before,  but your green custom 
Matthews with SA hub is a thing of beauty.

Ian A Alberta Canada


On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:09:07 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one 
> only, which one?
>
> Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to 
> propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's 
> your life; I don't care. Which *second* bike would you keep, after 
> relegating #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another 
> responder already broached this thread extension.
>
> I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" wheel 
> Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear and 
> very weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 was a 
> near clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall, 
> thinner gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That the 
> '03 was too stout I realized after 15 years.
>
> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>
>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
>> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
>> get.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Leah Peterson]

Oh come now, friends, let’s not be that sensitive. 

2nd bike: keeping my Clem. It’s a step thru, it’s dear, but it pains me that I 
can’t also keep my mermaid Platy.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2022, at 7:22 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I would propose no violent references to what bike you would keep. 
> 
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 4:09:07 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>> The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one only, 
>> which one?
>> 
>> Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to 
>> propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's 
>> your life; I don't care. Which second bike would you keep, after relegating 
>> #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another responder 
>> already broached this thread extension.
>> 
>> I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" wheel 
>> Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear and very 
>> weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 was a near 
>> clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall, thinner 
>> gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That the '03 was 
>> too stout I realized after 15 years.
>> 
>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
>>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
>>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
>>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
>>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
>>> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
>>> get.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Joe Bernard]

I would propose no violent references to what bike you would keep. 

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 4:09:07 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> The apocalypse/age angle came later; the original question was, if one 
> only, which one?
>
> Me, tho' I'm quite clear which "one and only" I'd choose, I'd like to 
> propose a followup thread: Gunman holds gun to (your) temple, sez: "It's 
> your life; I don't care. Which *second* bike would you keep, after 
> relegating #s 3 sq to the abyss?" (Eloquent gunman, that.) I think another 
> responder already broached this thread extension.
>
> I'll lead: My 2020 Chauncey Matthews clone of 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" wheel 
> Road custom, but tweaked with Grant-forbiddent things like hub gear and 
> very weird braze-on embellishments (details upon request). The 2003 was a 
> near clone of the 1999, and the Matthews replicates it in thinner wall, 
> thinner gauge tubing, for -- Yes! -- that true planing experience. That the 
> '03 was too stout I realized after 15 years.
>
> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming for the common good, in ABQ, NM.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>
>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
>> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
>> get.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Jay Lonner]

Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call attention 
to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I agree with the 
sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for those with a whole 
host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. Back to the wall, if I 
could only have one bike for the rest of my life it’d be an aluminum e-assist 
trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can get.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

Sent from my Atari 400

> On Apr 7, 2022, at 1:11 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> It's funny, but that question didn't have me thinking one bike to last 
> through old age, but one bike to deal with whatever apocalypses the future 
> might bring. I definitely need to ride & chill out more.
> 
> For me it would be a steel frame mixte, that can fit 55mm tires, minimum 50mm 
> tires, but without the longer chain stays Riv now prefers.
> 
> I'm an urban dweller / rider and I need my bikes to fit in smaller rooms, 
> easy to carry up & down stairwells, through narrower hallways, elevators, 
> etc. If I lived in a house with a garage, chain stay length probably wouldn't 
> be a problem. My MUSA Hunqapillar & MUSA AHH have smooth, stable rides, and 
> while for me the longer chain stay lengths do make for a great, gliding ride, 
> the longer chain stays are overkill, too long and a deal breaker.
> 
> And no, a Brompton is NOT a substitute for a Rivendell, although I guess it 
> qualifies as a steel mixte?
> 
> John
> 
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:22:50 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>> question yesterday: 
>> 
>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and what 
>> style - mixte or normal? 
>> 
>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>> 
>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a Rivendell 
>> steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry Platypus, but 
>> I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping Platypus. Up 
>> until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring having a trio of 
>> bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the raspberry mixte as my One 
>> Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, does whatever I want it to, 
>> and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>> 
>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a dream 
>> bike? Do you have a photo?
>> Leah
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Drew Saunders]

If you're looking for One Bike to Rule Them All, clearly it has to be the 
2004 Rivendell Sauron:

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/nanodrive/

(Should have posted this last Friday...)

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 vhans...@gmail.com wrote:

> Unfortunately, this was sold 20 years ago
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 5:49 PM Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/812079662293/
>>
>> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 11:59:34 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Honestly a smaller wheelbase Platy kind of describes the Cheviot. I 
>>> would bet that the Cheviot would be very close to a step through AHH.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 10:21:25 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I so understand. A HomerPlat would be just the thing for you. I wonder 
 if that would be descriptive enough to say to Grant on your order form! 
 There’s a one-year pause on custom orders for now, but you can still get 
 in 
 the queue. I know I’m a terrible influence. I really want everyone to have 
 the bike they truly want.. 

 L

 On Apr 2, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Roberta  wrote:

 My all time favorite Riv of the three I've owned is my A Homer Hilsen, 
 by a narrow margin. It’s nearly perfect in every way —fit,size,ride 
 quality—except for one thing:  It is not a step though frame.   


 As I’m getting tired of throwing my leg over the saddle and I’m now 
 commuting to work, I will choose the Platypus if I could only have one 
 bike. I love the ride of the Platy, but my only issue with it is that it 
 is 
 too long to put on city bus bike rack or Amtrak.   Like many others here, 
 I 
 dream of a custom which slightly improves on a favorite ride to make it 
 the 
 perfect ride. 

 Roberta
 City of Philadlelphia, PA

 On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:22:50 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>
> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
> question yesterday: 
>
> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
> what style - mixte or normal? 
>
> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>
> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>
> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Victor Hanson]

Unfortunately, this was sold 20 years ago

On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 5:49 PM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/812079662293/
>
> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 11:59:34 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Honestly a smaller wheelbase Platy kind of describes the Cheviot. I would
>> bet that the Cheviot would be very close to a step through AHH.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 10:21:25 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I so understand. A HomerPlat would be just the thing for you. I wonder
>>> if that would be descriptive enough to say to Grant on your order form!
>>> There’s a one-year pause on custom orders for now, but you can still get in
>>> the queue. I know I’m a terrible influence. I really want everyone to have
>>> the bike they truly want..
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> My all time favorite Riv of the three I've owned is my A Homer Hilsen,
>>> by a narrow margin. It’s nearly perfect in every way —fit,size,ride
>>> quality—except for one thing:  It is not a step though frame.
>>>
>>>
>>> As I’m getting tired of throwing my leg over the saddle and I’m now
>>> commuting to work, I will choose the Platypus if I could only have one
>>> bike. I love the ride of the Platy, but my only issue with it is that it is
>>> too long to put on city bus bike rack or Amtrak.   Like many others here, I
>>> dream of a custom which slightly improves on a favorite ride to make it the
>>> perfect ride.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>> City of Philadlelphia, PA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:22:50 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image:
 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]

 If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun
 question yesterday:

 You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and
 what style - mixte or normal?

 Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art.

 What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a
 Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry
 Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping
 Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring
 having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the
 raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful,
 does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value.

 What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a
 dream bike? Do you have a photo?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Johnny Alien]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/812079662293/

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 11:59:34 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Honestly a smaller wheelbase Platy kind of describes the Cheviot. I would 
> bet that the Cheviot would be very close to a step through AHH.
>
> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 10:21:25 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I so understand. A HomerPlat would be just the thing for you. I wonder if 
>> that would be descriptive enough to say to Grant on your order form! 
>> There’s a one-year pause on custom orders for now, but you can still get in 
>> the queue. I know I’m a terrible influence. I really want everyone to have 
>> the bike they truly want.. 
>>
>> L
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> My all time favorite Riv of the three I've owned is my A Homer Hilsen, 
>> by a narrow margin. It’s nearly perfect in every way —fit,size,ride 
>> quality—except for one thing:  It is not a step though frame.   
>>
>>
>> As I’m getting tired of throwing my leg over the saddle and I’m now 
>> commuting to work, I will choose the Platypus if I could only have one 
>> bike. I love the ride of the Platy, but my only issue with it is that it is 
>> too long to put on city bus bike rack or Amtrak.   Like many others here, I 
>> dream of a custom which slightly improves on a favorite ride to make it the 
>> perfect ride. 
>>
>> Roberta
>> City of Philadlelphia, PA
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:22:50 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>>
>>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>>> question yesterday: 
>>>
>>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
>>> what style - mixte or normal? 
>>>
>>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>>
>>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
>>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
>>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>>>
>>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
>>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Johnny Alien]

Honestly a smaller wheelbase Platy kind of describes the Cheviot. I would 
bet that the Cheviot would be very close to a step through AHH.

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 10:21:25 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I so understand. A HomerPlat would be just the thing for you. I wonder if 
> that would be descriptive enough to say to Grant on your order form! 
> There’s a one-year pause on custom orders for now, but you can still get in 
> the queue. I know I’m a terrible influence. I really want everyone to have 
> the bike they truly want.. 
>
> L
>
> On Apr 2, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> My all time favorite Riv of the three I've owned is my A Homer Hilsen, by 
> a narrow margin. It’s nearly perfect in every way —fit,size,ride 
> quality—except for one thing:  It is not a step though frame.   
>
>
> As I’m getting tired of throwing my leg over the saddle and I’m now 
> commuting to work, I will choose the Platypus if I could only have one 
> bike. I love the ride of the Platy, but my only issue with it is that it is 
> too long to put on city bus bike rack or Amtrak.   Like many others here, I 
> dream of a custom which slightly improves on a favorite ride to make it the 
> perfect ride. 
>
> Roberta
> City of Philadlelphia, PA
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:22:50 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>
>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>> question yesterday: 
>>
>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
>> what style - mixte or normal? 
>>
>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>
>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>>
>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Leah Peterson]

I so understand. A HomerPlat would be just the thing for you. I wonder if that 
would be descriptive enough to say to Grant on your order form! There’s a 
one-year pause on custom orders for now, but you can still get in the queue. I 
know I’m a terrible influence. I really want everyone to have the bike they 
truly want.. 

L

> On Apr 2, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> My all time favorite Riv of the three I've owned is my A Homer Hilsen, by a 
> narrow margin. It’s nearly perfect in every way —fit,size,ride quality—except 
> for one thing:  It is not a step though frame.   
> 
> As I’m getting tired of throwing my leg over the saddle and I’m now commuting 
> to work, I will choose the Platypus if I could only have one bike. I love the 
> ride of the Platy, but my only issue with it is that it is too long to put on 
> city bus bike rack or Amtrak.   Like many others here, I dream of a custom 
> which slightly improves on a favorite ride to make it the perfect ride. 
> 
> Roberta
> City of Philadlelphia, PA
> 
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:22:50 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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>> 
>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>> question yesterday: 
>> 
>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and what 
>> style - mixte or normal? 
>> 
>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>> 
>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a Rivendell 
>> steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry Platypus, but 
>> I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping Platypus. Up 
>> until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring having a trio of 
>> bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the raspberry mixte as my One 
>> Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, does whatever I want it to, 
>> and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>> 
>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a dream 
>> bike? Do you have a photo?
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Leah Peterson]

Jason - I knew you’d choose the Hillborne. I know it’s your #1 but most would 
guess the Bombadil because I think it gets most of your miles! 

Joyce - I would love Clementine decals. 

Joe - Oh, you flatter me. I think you came up with a dropped tube aside from my 
input but I do stand by mixtes as #1 best bike ever. You just can’t regret a 
mixte. #toptubeswhoneedsem

I love the photos you all are sending. Thanks for contributing! And keep ‘em 
coming.
L

> On Apr 2, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> The expected answer from me, of the bikes I own, would be the Bombadil - but 
> I'm not so sure I can say that confidently. It has the versatility and tire 
> clearance to be a one-bike, even for my high varied riding (from brevets to 
> mountain bike trails), but I like how the Hillborne rides more!  The 
> Hillborne also has a little more TT clearance for me, which may become a 
> bigger deal over time, and it's still stout enough for me to carry a full 
> camping load. Only downside is the tire size limitation... Ideally I'd get a 
> custom that is basically a Hillborne that fits 48's with fenders, but that 
> would be hard to justify ... mind you, think of all the money I'd save 
> selling four of my five bikes haha! 
> 
>> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 06:22:50 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>> question yesterday: 
>> 
>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and what 
>> style - mixte or normal? 
>> 
>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>> 
>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a Rivendell 
>> steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry Platypus, but 
>> I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping Platypus. Up 
>> until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring having a trio of 
>> bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the raspberry mixte as my One 
>> Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, does whatever I want it to, 
>> and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>> 
>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a dream 
>> bike? Do you have a photo?
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Matt Beecher]

This would be a tough call, but as I get older, the Saluki gets more 
comfortable.   I imagine the Atlantis would hold up better to wear and 
tear.  I imagine the Saluki would win amongst the two, since it can do all 
that I ask of the Atlantis and it weighs a fair bit less.  If I were a 
younger man, I might opt for the Atlantis. 

Thankfully, I don't have to choose to keep only one.  

Best regards,
Matt in Oswego, IL


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>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:22:50 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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>>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>>
>>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>>> question yesterday: 
>>>
>>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
>>> what style - mixte or normal? 
>>>
>>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>>
>>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
>>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
>>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>>>
>>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
>>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Sofie C]

Count me in for the clementine decal campaign, Joyce!

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 1:56:00 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> This is such a tough choice! I love both Clem and Platypus, but if I could 
> have only one, it would be my mermaid Platy because it is elegant, agile 
> and tough enough.  
>
> Speaking of Clems, I was disappointed mine didn’t come with the Clementine 
> name sticker.  When I called to see if I could get me, no luck.  I think we 
> should start a campaign to make them available so we can properly name our 
> Clementines.  Mine is dark green so the pink name sticker would look great 
> on it though I’d much prefer a beautiful sky blue.
>
> Joyce
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:36:41 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> PS I would not want to be guilty of getting someone’s name wrong. I know 
>> Sofie (Sofiya) from our conversations on IG and I wrote her name the way 
>> she spells it there. Sorry if I confused anyone!
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> RivSisters, YES. I so agree. A custom Clem with the name Clementine in 
>> pale, sparkly/pearlescent pink would be a DREAMY thing. Rivendell - are you 
>> listening? Can we do a special run of these? And yes, Sofia, since the 
>> Platypus has been so popular, I hope Riv can make one size smaller and one 
>> size bigger so anyone can ride that model. It’s such a splendid bike. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Christine, sign me up for your custom! I've already got my beloved clem 
>>> in RWB blue but my dream custom was a pale pearly pink platypus made to fit 
>>> me (the 50 cm is just a hair to big for me!) 
>>>  
>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Mine would be a custom Clem. Painted a sparkly light pink with that 
 pearlescent look, built up with all Silver components. And it would have 
 custom decals with her proper Clementine name, no more Smith Jr! Oh and 
 definitely a different head badge, something colourful and pretty, the 
 Clem 
 badge is just kinda boring. At this point, it's not really a Clem anymore 
 I 
 guess 🤷🏼‍♀️
 Christine

 On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>
> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
> question yesterday: 
>
> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
> what style - mixte or normal? 
>
> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>
> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>
> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[JAS]

This is such a tough choice! I love both Clem and Platypus, but if I could 
have only one, it would be my mermaid Platy because it is elegant, agile 
and tough enough.  

Speaking of Clems, I was disappointed mine didn’t come with the Clementine 
name sticker.  When I called to see if I could get me, no luck.  I think we 
should start a campaign to make them available so we can properly name our 
Clementines.  Mine is dark green so the pink name sticker would look great 
on it though I’d much prefer a beautiful sky blue.

Joyce

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:36:41 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> PS I would not want to be guilty of getting someone’s name wrong. I know 
> Sofie (Sofiya) from our conversations on IG and I wrote her name the way 
> she spells it there. Sorry if I confused anyone!
>
> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> RivSisters, YES. I so agree. A custom Clem with the name Clementine in 
> pale, sparkly/pearlescent pink would be a DREAMY thing. Rivendell - are you 
> listening? Can we do a special run of these? And yes, Sofia, since the 
> Platypus has been so popular, I hope Riv can make one size smaller and one 
> size bigger so anyone can ride that model. It’s such a splendid bike. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Christine, sign me up for your custom! I've already got my beloved clem 
>> in RWB blue but my dream custom was a pale pearly pink platypus made to fit 
>> me (the 50 cm is just a hair to big for me!) 
>>  
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Mine would be a custom Clem. Painted a sparkly light pink with that 
>>> pearlescent look, built up with all Silver components. And it would have 
>>> custom decals with her proper Clementine name, no more Smith Jr! Oh and 
>>> definitely a different head badge, something colourful and pretty, the Clem 
>>> badge is just kinda boring. At this point, it's not really a Clem anymore I 
>>> guess 🤷🏼‍♀️
>>> Christine
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]

 If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
 question yesterday: 

 You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
 what style - mixte or normal? 

 Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 

 What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
 Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
 Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
 Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
 having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
 raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
 does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 

 What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
 dream bike? Do you have a photo?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Leah Peterson]

PS I would not want to be guilty of getting someone’s name wrong. I know Sofie 
(Sofiya) from our conversations on IG and I wrote her name the way she spells 
it there. Sorry if I confused anyone!

> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> RivSisters, YES. I so agree. A custom Clem with the name Clementine in pale, 
> sparkly/pearlescent pink would be a DREAMY thing. Rivendell - are you 
> listening? Can we do a special run of these? And yes, Sofia, since the 
> Platypus has been so popular, I hope Riv can make one size smaller and one 
> size bigger so anyone can ride that model. It’s such a splendid bike. 
> 
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Christine, sign me up for your custom! I've already got my beloved clem in 
>> RWB blue but my dream custom was a pale pearly pink platypus made to fit me 
>> (the 50 cm is just a hair to big for me!) 
>>  
>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Mine would be a custom Clem. Painted a sparkly light pink with that 
>>> pearlescent look, built up with all Silver components. And it would have 
>>> custom decals with her proper Clementine name, no more Smith Jr! Oh and 
>>> definitely a different head badge, something colourful and pretty, the Clem 
>>> badge is just kinda boring. At this point, it's not really a Clem anymore I 
>>> guess 🤷🏼‍♀️
>>> Christine
>>> 
 On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 
 
 If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
 question yesterday: 
 
 You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and what 
 style - mixte or normal? 
 
 Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
 
 What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a Rivendell 
 steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry Platypus, but 
 I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping Platypus. Up 
 until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring having a trio of 
 bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the raspberry mixte as my 
 One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, does whatever I want it 
 to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
 
 What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
 dream bike? Do you have a photo?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[George Schick]

Given that qualifier, I'd have to say after doing a fingers and toes count 
of every bike I've ever owned, starting with a 24" Schwinn cantilever 
framed bike back in the mid-50's, that the diamond framed steel Rambouillet 
is not only the bike I'd like to have for the rest of my life (and plan 
to), but *the* bike I wish I would have had all along during the past 50 or 
so years of "serious" cycling.  'Course, I've never owned any other frame 
styles that fall into the mixte or step-through categories and it may well 
happen that I'll eventually become too old and decrepit to be able to throw 
my leg over the top tube of a diamond frame and will need to get a mixte or 
step-through of some kind, something with which I will have no problem.  
Maybe I'll just ride my wife's Breezer Uptown.


On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:35:24 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I think Grant, in his casual manner of speaking, means “typical.” And I 
> take that to refer to diamond frame.
>
> I might say that no one has worked harder to make mixtes/step-through 
> frames acceptable to men than Rivendell. Erasing the Clem H and only 
> offering that model in the L version was huge. And now I see men of all 
> ages riding Clem Ls and the connotation to “girl bike” is fading. 
> Leah
>
> On Apr 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, George Schick  wrote:
>
> Curious that he uses the term "normal" for other than mixte.  What's 
> "normal"?  A diamond shaped road frame?  A step-through (which is different 
> than mixte)?  
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 8:22:50 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>
>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>> question yesterday: 
>>
>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
>> what style - mixte or normal? 
>>
>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>
>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>>
>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Leah Peterson]

I think Grant, in his casual manner of speaking, means “typical.” And I take 
that to refer to diamond frame.

I might say that no one has worked harder to make mixtes/step-through frames 
acceptable to men than Rivendell. Erasing the Clem H and only offering that 
model in the L version was huge. And now I see men of all ages riding Clem Ls 
and the connotation to “girl bike” is fading. 
Leah

> On Apr 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, George Schick  wrote:
> 
> Curious that he uses the term "normal" for other than mixte.  What's 
> "normal"?  A diamond shaped road frame?  A step-through (which is different 
> than mixte)?  
> 
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 8:22:50 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>> question yesterday: 
>> 
>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and what 
>> style - mixte or normal? 
>> 
>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>> 
>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a Rivendell 
>> steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry Platypus, but 
>> I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping Platypus. Up 
>> until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring having a trio of 
>> bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the raspberry mixte as my One 
>> Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, does whatever I want it to, 
>> and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>> 
>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a dream 
>> bike? Do you have a photo?
>> Leah
>> 
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