Re: [RBW] Re: Todays ride

2011-04-19 Thread jimD

Regarding #3.
As I've said before I used to eschew the use of zip-ties on 'fine  
Rivendell bikes'.


;)

That was before I used them to install mud flaps on my Saluki.

Now I'm a convert. Zip-ties even work as a way of mounting blinky tail  
lights to the rear rack.


JimD

On Apr 18, 2011, at :  Apr 18, 2011120PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:


Regarding mudflap attachment... I've tried three ways:

1) screws/lockwashers/nuts
2) twine
3) zip-tie(s)

The only reason I tried (2) and (3) were because (1) and (2) failed,
each within a few hundred miles.

(3) hasn't failed, in about 4,000 miles of riding so far. On potholed
buckling pavement and on rutted trails on two different bikes. I'm a
little concerned about the zip-tie holding my Sackville mudflap to my
aluminum fenders on my Hillborne's front wheel; it's been there a
couple of months and it may be getting slowly sliced by the edge of
the holes I drilled in the fender. I intend to insert rubber grommets
if I ever have a problem there. But with my other bike and its SKS
chromoplastic fenders, I've got a single zip-tie holding a Sackville
mudflap on the front and two zip-ties holding a VO leather mudflap on
the back. I admit I wasn't sure about the zip-ties with the (heavy)
leather flap on the (flexy) sorta-plastic fender. But so far I've had
no problems.

My experience thus far has lead me to one solid conclusion... if I
were to develop a habit of replacing that zip-tie every time I, say,
re-shellac my handlebar tape or clean my front derailer, I'd expect
never to have a problem.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean


On Apr 17, 9:04 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
I know folks are tired of me talking about my biking experiance but  
all I
can say anymore is wow.  Nice 40ish mile ride today on road with  
paved
trails, single track, mud, tree roots, rocks you name it.. smooth  
pavement

.. head winds, tail winds, just a great time.

I don't know how fast I went and don't care.

The wool undies, columbia shorts, and shirt combo was great with  
some older

hiking sandles.

Recommendation:  Try to use rivits or find some ohter way to attach  
mudflaps

to fenders.  the nuts on the inside collected mud and made noise.  30
seconds with a small stick and all was quiet again for the road.

Here are some photos..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157626520888238/

Kelly


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Re: [RBW] Re: Todays ride

2011-04-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I use the nuts provided with my Berthoud leather (whoopee!) flap on my
Berthoud ss 45s and, so far, no problem. These are nylock nuts, but
I've used blue Loctite on others. I would imagine that a joining
system that successfully holds fenders to frame or stays to fenders
for thousands of miles ought to work for flaps to fenders if properly
installed.

OTOH, the one time I did use zip ties for fenders, they lasted many
miles until I decided I wanted a method of attachment that looked a
little more couth.

I replaced the pop rivets on one front fender when they became scarily
loose; replaced them with bolts and Loctite.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean
thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote:
 Regarding mudflap attachment... I've tried three ways:

 1) screws/lockwashers/nuts
 2) twine
 3) zip-tie(s)

 The only reason I tried (2) and (3) were because (1) and (2) failed,
 each within a few hundred miles.

 (3) hasn't failed, in about 4,000 miles of riding so far. On potholed
 buckling pavement and on rutted trails on two different bikes. I'm a
 little concerned about the zip-tie holding my Sackville mudflap to my
 aluminum fenders on my Hillborne's front wheel; it's been there a
 couple of months and it may be getting slowly sliced by the edge of
 the holes I drilled in the fender. I intend to insert rubber grommets
 if I ever have a problem there. But with my other bike and its SKS
 chromoplastic fenders, I've got a single zip-tie holding a Sackville
 mudflap on the front and two zip-ties holding a VO leather mudflap on
 the back. I admit I wasn't sure about the zip-ties with the (heavy)
 leather flap on the (flexy) sorta-plastic fender. But so far I've had
 no problems.

 My experience thus far has lead me to one solid conclusion... if I
 were to develop a habit of replacing that zip-tie every time I, say,
 re-shellac my handlebar tape or clean my front derailer, I'd expect
 never to have a problem.

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean


 On Apr 17, 9:04 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know folks are tired of me talking about my biking experiance but all I
 can say anymore is wow.  Nice 40ish mile ride today on road with paved
 trails, single track, mud, tree roots, rocks you name it.. smooth pavement
 .. head winds, tail winds, just a great time.

 I don't know how fast I went and don't care.

 The wool undies, columbia shorts, and shirt combo was great with some older
 hiking sandles.

 Recommendation:  Try to use rivits or find some ohter way to attach mudflaps
 to fenders.  the nuts on the inside collected mud and made noise.  30
 seconds with a small stick and all was quiet again for the road.

 Here are some photos..

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157626520888238/

 Kelly

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