Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Slin]

I was shopping around for some higher volume slick-ish tires and just saw 
that the UD Cava will come in 650b 55mm this fall!! 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch7v1hMOhW8/

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:34:11 AM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a Sam with 700x38 Gravel King slicks. Pretty good, decent price. 
> Smooth and snappy on pavement and fairly stable on gravel. Being over 
> 200lbs, I'm hesitant to run them lower than mid 40s PSI, so I think at some 
> point I'll switch to the Snoqualmies so I can run a lower PSI. 
>
> Ben in Omaha 
> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 9:52:00 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I'm going to retract my statement and say these XL Snoqualmie's are the 
>> bee's knees. They feel every bit as fast as the 28's but I can tell they 
>> won't beat me up as much when the mileage starts ticking. It should be 
>> noted that they're mounted on some very narrow Mavic Open 4 CD rims so they 
>> actually only measure around 37/38mm.  
>>
>> I'd take things a step further and also recommend a lightweight wheelset 
>> if the goal is spirited riding with a light load. Nothing too crazy light, 
>> but putting super supple tires on stout touring wheels just seems a little 
>> backwards. 
>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:33:05 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Never measured the 27s and the bike they were on was stolen a few years 
>>> back unfortunately. I'll have to check the 40s and get back to you.
>>>
>>> I've only very briefly ridden soma shikoros. They were nice too, though 
>>> I have to say i didn't like them as much. They were on wildly different 
>>> bikes though and the shikoros were at much higher pressure so not a great 
>>> comparison.
>>>
>>> In that same size I have a set of mavic all road tires in 35mm to go on 
>>> some future build as well. Haven't ridden the 35s yet but i had the same 
>>> tires in 30mm that came with a mavic wheelset I bought, and they felt great 
>>> too actually. Mavic is definitely not my first thought for tires but they 
>>> were a pleasant surprise 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 12:02 PM Chris Dedinsky  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm glad to hear it Alexander. I'm pretty set on getting a 36mm pair 
 for my Heron touring bike, which is kinda the max clearance I think to get 
 in there and keep my fenders. Did your 27s and or 40s measure fairly true 
 to size? The other tires I've been leaning towards are the 38mm SOMA 
 Shikoro's and or Supple Vitesse. I guess all this to say, 700x~35 feels 
 good for a road and road-ish rubber radius.

 On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:46:58 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and 
> loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I 
> have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the 
> fastest 
> feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am 
> hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very 
>> soon! I'll let y'all know how they ride. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 
>> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on 
>>> the Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>>>
 I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with 
 Snoqualmie Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from 
 worn 
 pairs.

 I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what 
 I had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet 
 stuff.

 I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only 
 rides, but I like it for what I've done so far 

 Adam

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from 
> riding off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one 
> Sam. 
> Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere 
> explaining the 
> nuances. 
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
>> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth 
>> with a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
>> Scott - Amherst MA
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner 
>> wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Ben Mihovk]

I have a Sam with 700x38 Gravel King slicks. Pretty good, decent price. 
Smooth and snappy on pavement and fairly stable on gravel. Being over 
200lbs, I'm hesitant to run them lower than mid 40s PSI, so I think at some 
point I'll switch to the Snoqualmies so I can run a lower PSI. 

Ben in Omaha 
On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 9:52:00 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I'm going to retract my statement and say these XL Snoqualmie's are the 
> bee's knees. They feel every bit as fast as the 28's but I can tell they 
> won't beat me up as much when the mileage starts ticking. It should be 
> noted that they're mounted on some very narrow Mavic Open 4 CD rims so they 
> actually only measure around 37/38mm.  
>
> I'd take things a step further and also recommend a lightweight wheelset 
> if the goal is spirited riding with a light load. Nothing too crazy light, 
> but putting super supple tires on stout touring wheels just seems a little 
> backwards. 
> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:33:05 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Never measured the 27s and the bike they were on was stolen a few years 
>> back unfortunately. I'll have to check the 40s and get back to you.
>>
>> I've only very briefly ridden soma shikoros. They were nice too, though I 
>> have to say i didn't like them as much. They were on wildly different bikes 
>> though and the shikoros were at much higher pressure so not a great 
>> comparison.
>>
>> In that same size I have a set of mavic all road tires in 35mm to go on 
>> some future build as well. Haven't ridden the 35s yet but i had the same 
>> tires in 30mm that came with a mavic wheelset I bought, and they felt great 
>> too actually. Mavic is definitely not my first thought for tires but they 
>> were a pleasant surprise 
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 12:02 PM Chris Dedinsky  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm glad to hear it Alexander. I'm pretty set on getting a 36mm pair for 
>>> my Heron touring bike, which is kinda the max clearance I think to get in 
>>> there and keep my fenders. Did your 27s and or 40s measure fairly true to 
>>> size? The other tires I've been leaning towards are the 38mm SOMA Shikoro's 
>>> and or Supple Vitesse. I guess all this to say, 700x~35 feels good for a 
>>> road and road-ish rubber radius.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:46:58 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and 
 loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I 
 have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest 
 feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am 
 hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
 On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very 
> soon! I'll let y'all know how they ride. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 
> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on 
>> the Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>>
>>> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie 
>>> Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>>>
>>> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what 
>>> I had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet 
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only 
>>> rides, but I like it for what I've done so far 
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from 
 riding off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one 
 Sam. 
 Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining 
 the 
 nuances. 

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers 
 wrote:

> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth 
> with a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
> Scott - Amherst MA
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner 
> wrote:
>
>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge 
>> tires on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do 
>> surprisingly well 
>> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
>> really 
>> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in 
>> those 

Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Andrew Turner]

I'm going to retract my statement and say these XL Snoqualmie's are the 
bee's knees. They feel every bit as fast as the 28's but I can tell they 
won't beat me up as much when the mileage starts ticking. It should be 
noted that they're mounted on some very narrow Mavic Open 4 CD rims so they 
actually only measure around 37/38mm.  

I'd take things a step further and also recommend a lightweight wheelset if 
the goal is spirited riding with a light load. Nothing too crazy light, but 
putting super supple tires on stout touring wheels just seems a little 
backwards. 
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:33:05 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Never measured the 27s and the bike they were on was stolen a few years 
> back unfortunately. I'll have to check the 40s and get back to you.
>
> I've only very briefly ridden soma shikoros. They were nice too, though I 
> have to say i didn't like them as much. They were on wildly different bikes 
> though and the shikoros were at much higher pressure so not a great 
> comparison.
>
> In that same size I have a set of mavic all road tires in 35mm to go on 
> some future build as well. Haven't ridden the 35s yet but i had the same 
> tires in 30mm that came with a mavic wheelset I bought, and they felt great 
> too actually. Mavic is definitely not my first thought for tires but they 
> were a pleasant surprise 
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 12:02 PM Chris Dedinsky  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm glad to hear it Alexander. I'm pretty set on getting a 36mm pair for 
>> my Heron touring bike, which is kinda the max clearance I think to get in 
>> there and keep my fenders. Did your 27s and or 40s measure fairly true to 
>> size? The other tires I've been leaning towards are the 38mm SOMA Shikoro's 
>> and or Supple Vitesse. I guess all this to say, 700x~35 feels good for a 
>> road and road-ish rubber radius.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:46:58 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and 
>>> loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I 
>>> have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest 
>>> feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am 
>>> hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very 
 soon! I'll let y'all know how they ride. 

 On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 
 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:

> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on 
> the Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie 
>> Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>>
>> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I 
>> had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet 
>> stuff.
>>
>> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only 
>> rides, but I like it for what I've done so far 
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding 
>>> off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. 
>>> Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining 
>>> the 
>>> nuances. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
 There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth 
 with a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
 Scott - Amherst MA
 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge 
> tires on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly 
> well 
> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
> really 
> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those 
> slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike 
> honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my 
> mind of 
> which tire I preferred.  
>
> Andrew 
> TN
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
> greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing 
>> tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm 

Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Alexander Chalmers]

Never measured the 27s and the bike they were on was stolen a few years
back unfortunately. I'll have to check the 40s and get back to you.

I've only very briefly ridden soma shikoros. They were nice too, though I
have to say i didn't like them as much. They were on wildly different bikes
though and the shikoros were at much higher pressure so not a great
comparison.

In that same size I have a set of mavic all road tires in 35mm to go on
some future build as well. Haven't ridden the 35s yet but i had the same
tires in 30mm that came with a mavic wheelset I bought, and they felt great
too actually. Mavic is definitely not my first thought for tires but they
were a pleasant surprise

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 12:02 PM Chris Dedinsky  wrote:

> I'm glad to hear it Alexander. I'm pretty set on getting a 36mm pair for
> my Heron touring bike, which is kinda the max clearance I think to get in
> there and keep my fenders. Did your 27s and or 40s measure fairly true to
> size? The other tires I've been leaning towards are the 38mm SOMA Shikoro's
> and or Supple Vitesse. I guess all this to say, 700x~35 feels good for a
> road and road-ish rubber radius.
>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:46:58 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and
>> loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I
>> have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest
>> feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am
>> hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very
>>> soon! I'll let y'all know how they ride.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 h...@chrisdedinsky.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on
 the Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts?

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:

> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie
> Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>
> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I
> had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.
>
> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides,
> but I like it for what I've done so far
>
> Adam
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding
>> off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam.
>> Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining 
>> the
>> nuances.
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight!
>>> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth
>>> with a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
>>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge
 tires on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly 
 well
 off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
 really
 wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those
 slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike
 honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my 
 mind of
 which tire I preferred.

 Andrew
 TN

 On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
 greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing
> tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads 
> are a
> mix of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some 
> single
> track. I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside 
> from
> road, can you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed 
> surfaces?
> I'm considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick 
> Hatcher
> Pass 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>
> Thx!
> Scott - Amherst MA
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't
>> perfect, Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for
>> confidence braking and cornering.

Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Chris Dedinsky]

That's very exciting—it is a gorgeous build! Yes, please let me know your
impressions.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 9:19 PM Chris Buzzini 
wrote:

> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very soon!
> I'll let y'all know how they ride.
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 h...@chrisdedinsky.com
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on the
>> Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts?
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>>
>>> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie
>>> Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>>>
>>> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I
>>> had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides,
>>> but I like it for what I've done so far
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding
 off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam.
 Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining the
 nuances.

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight!
> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with
> a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
> Scott - Amherst MA
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires
>> on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well
>> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
>> really
>> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those
>> slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike
>> honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind 
>> of
>> which tire I preferred.
>>
>> Andrew
>> TN
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
>> greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing
>>> tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads 
>>> are a
>>> mix of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single
>>> track. I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from
>>> road, can you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed surfaces?
>>> I'm considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher
>>> Pass 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>>>
>>> Thx!
>>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect,
 Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence 
 braking
 and cornering.
 I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and
 the Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't 
 go
 back to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Chris Dedinsky]

I'm glad to hear it Alexander. I'm pretty set on getting a 36mm pair for my 
Heron touring bike, which is kinda the max clearance I think to get in 
there and keep my fenders. Did your 27s and or 40s measure fairly true to 
size? The other tires I've been leaning towards are the 38mm SOMA Shikoro's 
and or Supple Vitesse. I guess all this to say, 700x~35 feels good for a 
road and road-ish rubber radius.

On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:46:58 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and 
> loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I 
> have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest 
> feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am 
> hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very 
>> soon! I'll let y'all know how they ride. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on the 
>>> Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>>>
 I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie 
 Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.

 I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I 
 had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.

 I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides, 
 but I like it for what I've done so far 

 Adam

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding 
> off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. 
> Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining 
> the 
> nuances. 
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
>> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth 
>> with a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
>> Scott - Amherst MA
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires 
>>> on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well 
>>> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
>>> really 
>>> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those 
>>> slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike 
>>> honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind 
>>> of 
>>> which tire I preferred.  
>>>
>>> Andrew 
>>> TN
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
>>> greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing 
 tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads 
 are a 
 mix of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some 
 single 
 track. I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside 
 from 
 road, can you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed 
 surfaces? 
 I'm considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick 
 Hatcher 
 Pass 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.

 Thx!
 Scott - Amherst MA

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't 
> perfect, Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for 
> confidence braking and cornering. 
> I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and 
> the Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably 
> wouldn't go 
> back to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Patrick Moore]

I agree with your choice for pavement riding -- I don't need anything
fatter than 32 mm (in fact, if the 32mm-labeled Elk Pass was a true 32 mm
on my admittedly narrow rims, I'd rise from 26" tire Paradise to 26" tire
Nirvana (both Buddhist), but even at 28 mm on 19 mm OW rims, they're
heavenly (generic metaphorical sense) except on our 5" wide pavement
expansion cracks.

But: You say that you "know that the bigger tires are not as fast." *How do
you know? *

My own experience is that the tire width to speed relationship is all over
the place for tires of similar construction (and cost), what with all the
variables in speed involved (and also by the fast that I haven't measured
anything except seat-of-pants ease of given cadence in given gear in given
conditions). To wit: 622 X 60MM Big One ultralights feel as fast as the Elk
Passes and both feel faster than extra light 42 mm Naches Passes. But
again, variables, variables.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 10:19 AM Will Boericke  wrote:

> On pavement, I see no need for anything beyond 32.  I'm light, I like to
> go fast on pavement, and despite what JH says, I know that the bigger tires
> are not as fast.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Will Boericke]

On pavement, I see no need for anything beyond 32.  I'm light, I like to go 
fast on pavement, and despite what JH says, I know that the bigger tires 
are not as fast.


On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 11:46:58 AM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and 
> loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I 
> have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest 
> feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am 
> hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very 
>> soon! I'll let y'all know how they ride. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on the 
>>> Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>>>
 I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie 
 Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.

 I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I 
 had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.

 I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides, 
 but I like it for what I've done so far 

 Adam

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding 
> off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. 
> Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining 
> the 
> nuances. 
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
>> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth 
>> with a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
>> Scott - Amherst MA
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires 
>>> on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well 
>>> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
>>> really 
>>> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those 
>>> slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike 
>>> honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind 
>>> of 
>>> which tire I preferred.  
>>>
>>> Andrew 
>>> TN
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
>>> greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing 
 tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads 
 are a 
 mix of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some 
 single 
 track. I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside 
 from 
 road, can you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed 
 surfaces? 
 I'm considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick 
 Hatcher 
 Pass 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.

 Thx!
 Scott - Amherst MA

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't 
> perfect, Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for 
> confidence braking and cornering. 
> I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and 
> the Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably 
> wouldn't go 
> back to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Alexander Chalmers]

Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and 
loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I 
have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest 
feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am 
hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very soon! 
> I'll let y'all know how they ride. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on the 
>> Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>>
>>> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie 
>>> Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>>>
>>> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I 
>>> had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides, 
>>> but I like it for what I've done so far 
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding 
 off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. 
 Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining the 
 nuances. 

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with 
> a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
> Scott - Amherst MA
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires 
>> on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well 
>> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
>> really 
>> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those 
>> slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike 
>> honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind 
>> of 
>> which tire I preferred.  
>>
>> Andrew 
>> TN
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
>> greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing 
>>> tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads 
>>> are a 
>>> mix of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single 
>>> track. I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from 
>>> road, can you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed 
>>> surfaces? 
>>> I'm considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher 
>>> Pass 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>>>
>>> Thx!
>>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
 Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence 
 braking 
 and cornering. 
 I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and 
 the Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't 
 go 
 back to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Chris Buzzini]

Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very soon! 
I'll let y'all know how they ride. 

On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
wrote:

> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on the 
> Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie Pass 
>> rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>>
>> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I had 
>> with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.
>>
>> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides, 
>> but I like it for what I've done so far 
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding off 
>>> road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. Certainly 
>>> there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining the nuances. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>>
 Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
 There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with 
 a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
 Scott - Amherst MA
 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires 
> on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well 
> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
> really 
> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those 
> slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike 
> honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind 
> of 
> which tire I preferred.  
>
> Andrew 
> TN
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
> greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing 
>> tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads 
>> are a 
>> mix of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single 
>> track. I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from 
>> road, can you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed surfaces? 
>> I'm considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher 
>> Pass 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>>
>> Thx!
>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
>>> Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence 
>>> braking 
>>> and cornering. 
>>> I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and 
>>> the Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't 
>>> go 
>>> back to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Chris Dedinsky]

Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on the 
Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:

> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie Pass 
> rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>
> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I had 
> with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.
>
> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides, but 
> I like it for what I've done so far 
>
> Adam
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding off 
>> road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. Certainly 
>> there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining the nuances. 
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
>>> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with a 
>>> knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
>>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires on 
 my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well 
 off-road. 
 Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often really wet as 
 well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those slippery 
 conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike honestly seems 
 like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind of which tire I 
 preferred.  

 Andrew 
 TN

 On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers  
 wrote:

> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing tires 
> (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads are a mix 
> of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single 
> track. 
> I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from road, 
> can 
> you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed surfaces? I'm 
> considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher Pass 
> 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>
> Thx!
> Scott - Amherst MA
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
>> Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence 
>> braking 
>> and cornering. 
>> I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and 
>> the Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't 
>> go 
>> back to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Adam]

I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie Pass 
rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.

I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I had 
with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.

I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides, but 
I like it for what I've done so far 

Adam

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding off 
> road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. Certainly 
> there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining the nuances. 
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
>> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with a 
>> knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
>> Scott - Amherst MA
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires on 
>>> my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well off-road. 
>>> Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often really wet as 
>>> well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those slippery 
>>> conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike honestly seems 
>>> like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind of which tire I 
>>> preferred.  
>>>
>>> Andrew 
>>> TN
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing tires 
 (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads are a mix 
 of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single track. 
 I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from road, can 
 you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed surfaces? I'm 
 considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher Pass 
 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.

 Thx!
 Scott - Amherst MA

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
> Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence 
> braking 
> and cornering. 
> I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and the 
> Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't go 
> back 
> to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Eric Marth]

Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding off 
road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. Certainly 
there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining the nuances. 

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with a 
> knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
> Scott - Amherst MA
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires on 
>> my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well off-road. 
>> Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often really wet as 
>> well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those slippery 
>> conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike honestly seems 
>> like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind of which tire I 
>> preferred.  
>>
>> Andrew 
>> TN
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing tires 
>>> (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads are a mix 
>>> of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single track. 
>>> I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from road, can 
>>> you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed surfaces? I'm 
>>> considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher Pass 
>>> 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>>>
>>> Thx!
>>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
 Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence 
 braking 
 and cornering. 
 I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and the 
 Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't go back 
 to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[greenteadrinkers]

Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with a 
knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
Scott - Amherst MA
On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires on my 
> Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well off-road. 
> Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often really wet as 
> well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those slippery 
> conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike honestly seems 
> like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind of which tire I 
> preferred.  
>
> Andrew 
> TN
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing tires 
>> (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads are a mix 
>> of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single track. 
>> I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from road, can 
>> you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed surfaces? I'm 
>> considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher Pass 
>> 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>>
>> Thx!
>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
>>> Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence braking 
>>> and cornering. 
>>> I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and the 
>>> Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't go back 
>>> to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Andrew Turner]

Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires on my
Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well off-road.
Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often really wet as
well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those slippery
conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike honestly seems
like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind of which tire I
preferred.

Andrew
TN

On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers 
wrote:

> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing tires
> (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads are a mix
> of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single track.
> I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from road, can
> you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed surfaces? I'm
> considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher Pass
> 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>
> Thx!
> Scott - Amherst MA
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect,
>> Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence braking
>> and cornering.
>> I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and the
>> Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't go back
>> to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.
>>
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