Re: [RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

2016-10-20 Thread Reed Kennedy 
I considered the Nitto / Sim-Works Potluck myself. It's gorgeous looking!
But do note, it is only rated to carry 15lbs.

A 6 pack of beer in glass bottles weighs about 9lbs. Sometimes I even carry
two of 'em, and some other groceries. So I decided to go with the
aformentioned Nitto 27F, which claims to be good for 35lbs of carrying.

(Since both are made and rated by Nitto a direct comparison seems fair.)


Reed

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Patch T  wrote:

> I'm in the same boat. Not a bad one to be in, but sure, can be improved.
>
> Been thinking about the Simworks Potluck Rack http://sim-works.com/en/
> nitto/potluck-rack
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 9:11:48 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
>> im finding myself overloading my nitto m-18+basket regularly, and it is
>> wiggling and bending more than i approve of. i think id like to replace it
>> with a non-mini rack. looking around, there seem to be way more options
>> than i thought there would be, especially with so many porteur style racks
>> now .So im wondering if its possible to compile a semi comprehensive list
>> of front racks that fullfill this criteria.
>>
>> -attach to the dropout eyelets
>> -clear 700x50 tires
>> -have an adequate platform for a basket
>> -are steel and silver
>> -are not super big/overbuilt/loaded touring style racks.
>>
>> pannier rails are not needed, but neednt be avoided either.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

2016-10-20 Thread Jon Schultz 
The Simworks rack typically won't clear 700x50 tires, unless your eyelet
mount is very high above the axle.  I posted some photos with dimensions
about a month ago on another thread.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Patch T  wrote:

> I'm in the same boat. Not a bad one to be in, but sure, can be improved.
>
> Been thinking about the Simworks Potluck Rack http://sim-works.com/en/
> nitto/potluck-rack
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 9:11:48 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> im finding myself overloading my nitto m-18+basket regularly, and it is
>> wiggling and bending more than i approve of. i think id like to replace it
>> with a non-mini rack. looking around, there seem to be way more options
>> than i thought there would be, especially with so many porteur style racks
>> now .So im wondering if its possible to compile a semi comprehensive list
>> of front racks that fullfill this criteria.
>>
>> -attach to the dropout eyelets
>> -clear 700x50 tires
>> -have an adequate platform for a basket
>> -are steel and silver
>> -are not super big/overbuilt/loaded touring style racks.
>>
>> pannier rails are not needed, but neednt be avoided either.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

2016-10-19 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Rene

I've never tried that, but remember that the M18 is significantly different 
from a Marks rack.  I don't think there's enough attach points on an M18 to 
take a platrack well.  The Marks rack has four strut eyelets and the M18 
only has two.  The marks rack facilitates bolting the platrack to the front 
tab but the M18 doesn't have that front tab.  I'm going to give that 
maneuver (platrack on M18) an unproven thumbs-down.  I'm willing to be 
proven wrong, but I'm going to say DISAPPROVE.  

The Marks Rack really is a much better rack than the M18.  

best

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 5:19:06 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> I have an excellent condition Platrack with bag, that you can use on top 
> of your Nitto M18 for just the reasons you outline. It has long stays that 
> support it from the fork eyelets at the tip (where the hub attaches). I no 
> longer use it, but can sell it cheap.
>
> There are many options, as you state, but this one allows you to install 
> it and remove it easily when you don't want to carry a basket. Send me a PM 
> if interested. A search will provide images.
>
> René 
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired 
> Partner)  wrote:
>
>> I just finished a tour down the GAP/C from Pittsburgh, with a Pass & 
>> Stow porteur-style rack on the front of my Bombadil.  It's a beautiful, 
>> beautifully constructed, and very flexible (in terms of utility) rack.  
>> Mine takes front panniers, has a porteur flat platform (perfect for a large 
>> Wald basket) and light mounts with provision for internal wiring. Really 
>> top notch. Here's a pic on the trail, along with my Atlantis:
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>> And here's a better pic of the rack, unloaded:
>> https://flic.kr/p/tLmLz4
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Surlyprof  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Drew, 
>>
>> I had been eyeing this one by SOMA.  
>> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-stainless-steel  I 
>> liked the fact that it was stainless and had crossbars for panniers.  Matt 
>> at Pass and Stow here in the bay area makes great racks, too. (
>> http://passstow.com/)  Really helpful guy building heavy duty bike 
>> racks.  
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 9:11:48 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: 
>>>
>>> im finding myself overloading my nitto m-18+basket regularly, and it is 
>>> wiggling and bending more than i approve of. i think id like to replace it 
>>> with a non-mini rack. looking around, there seem to be way more options 
>>> than i thought there would be, especially with so many porteur style racks 
>>> now .So im wondering if its possible to compile a semi comprehensive list 
>>> of front racks that fullfill this criteria. 
>>>
>>> -attach to the dropout eyelets
>>> -clear 700x50 tires
>>> -have an adequate platform for a basket
>>> -are steel and silver
>>> -are not super big/overbuilt/loaded touring style racks.
>>>
>>> pannier rails are not needed, but neednt be avoided either. 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

2016-10-19 Thread René Sterental 
I have an excellent condition Platrack with bag, that you can use on top of
your Nitto M18 for just the reasons you outline. It has long stays that
support it from the fork eyelets at the tip (where the hub attaches). I no
longer use it, but can sell it cheap.

There are many options, as you state, but this one allows you to install it
and remove it easily when you don't want to carry a basket. Send me a PM if
interested. A search will provide images.

René

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)
 wrote:

> I just finished a tour down the GAP/C from Pittsburgh, with a Pass &
> Stow porteur-style rack on the front of my Bombadil.  It's a beautiful,
> beautifully constructed, and very flexible (in terms of utility) rack.
> Mine takes front panniers, has a porteur flat platform (perfect for a large
> Wald basket) and light mounts with provision for internal wiring. Really
> top notch. Here's a pic on the trail, along with my Atlantis:
> [image: image1.jpeg]
> And here's a better pic of the rack, unloaded:
> https://flic.kr/p/tLmLz4
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 19, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Surlyprof  wrote:
>
> Drew,
>
> I had been eyeing this one by SOMA.  http://www.somafab.com/
> archives/product/porteur-rack-stainless-steel  I liked the fact that it
> was stainless and had crossbars for panniers.  Matt at Pass and Stow here
> in the bay area makes great racks, too. (http://passstow.com/)  Really
> helpful guy building heavy duty bike racks.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 9:11:48 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> im finding myself overloading my nitto m-18+basket regularly, and it is
>> wiggling and bending more than i approve of. i think id like to replace it
>> with a non-mini rack. looking around, there seem to be way more options
>> than i thought there would be, especially with so many porteur style racks
>> now .So im wondering if its possible to compile a semi comprehensive list
>> of front racks that fullfill this criteria.
>>
>> -attach to the dropout eyelets
>> -clear 700x50 tires
>> -have an adequate platform for a basket
>> -are steel and silver
>> -are not super big/overbuilt/loaded touring style racks.
>>
>> pannier rails are not needed, but neednt be avoided either.
>>
>>
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