Re: [RBW] SH/AHH sizing question
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote: > I'm about 185cm tall and have a PBH of 94. I ride a 66cm Quickbeam with > moustache bars that either even with or just a wee bit above the saddle > level. Most comfortable bike I have. > I'm 6'6" (198 cm) and have a PBH of 95. My 66 cm Quickbeam with M-bars is a very good fit.Bar clamp is a couple cm above nose of the saddle. A 68 cm frame might have been ideal, but the 66 cm is a joy to ride, and doesn't feel cramped. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SH/AHH sizing question
I'm about 185cm tall and have a PBH of 94. I ride a 66cm Quickbeam with moustache bars that either even with or just a wee bit above the saddle level. Most comfortable bike I have. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Lugmonster wrote: > Hello all, > > I live in Australia and am thinking of picking up a Riv, either a > Hillborne or a Hilsen. Given shipping issues etc. I'm sweating over > picking the right sized frame. My PBH is 94cm but my height is only > 186cm ie. I have a pretty long bottom half and short top half. The > folks at Riv are suggesting that I should be looking at a 64cm > Hillborne or a 65cm Hilsen. > > Now this to me seems massive, as I seem to be comfortable on an > effective top tube length of about 570mm on a standard racing bike > (56-68cm frame). Any top tube past 580mm and I feel like its a bit of > a stretch. I'm therefore thinking of maybe a smaller Hilsen (?63) or a > 60cm Hillborne. > > I do appreciate that the bars will be higher thus shortening the > distance to handlebars but still it seems like those frames are a bit > stretched out for me. Anyone with a similar build who has had > experiences positive or negative with Riv sizing? Could you provide > some advice? Thanks! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SH/AHH sizing question
I too take 57 cm c-c as the benchmark for my tts, but this is for (1) a 73* seat tube angle, (2) saddles (Flites or Turbos) all the way back on the rails on large-setback, older Dura Ace seatposts; and (3) a moderately agressive drop bar position with bar about 3 cm below saddle. See the photo of my Riv Road: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5695034988390084306 OTOH, I comfortably rode a 56 cm Sam HIllborne that had a 59 cm top tube when my "normal" road bikes all have top tubes of 56 to 57. Part of the excess was taken care of by the considerably shallower seat tube: 71* instead of my usual 73*; this effectively "shortens" the tt because you don't have to slam your saddle back as far to get the right position wrt to the bb. The rest was taken care of by having the bars a good 3 or 4 cm higher than those on my road bikes: thanks to the acute head angle, raising the bar brings the bar back roughly in the ratio of 1:2 comparing reach to height. The overall effect was a comfortable position, especially with the deeper drop/longer reach Noodles (deeper than the 185s and, currently, Maes Parallels on the Road Rivs) but one that was not as agressive as on the RRs. I get the same results with my Fargo: the bar is far higher (~2 cm above saddle) than on the RRs but the reach is the same because the stem, bar and tt combo are much longer than on the RRs; thus: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5704695502487130658 Similarly, when I was negotiating purchase of my trike I was anxious about the 58 cm c-c tt, but it turned out that the trike has a shallower seat tube angle so that the saddle, so that with the saddle a bit more forward to maintain the ideal saddle-to-bb relationship, the reach turned out to be just like that on my RRs. https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5665987116273041874 Upshot: consider (1) the seat tube angles of the SH or AHH compared to your benchmark bikes and (2) how high the bars on the SH or AHH will be compared to those on your benchmarks -- not to mention the kind of bar you want to use. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Lugmonster wrote: > Hello all, > > I live in Australia and am thinking of picking up a Riv, either a > Hillborne or a Hilsen. Given shipping issues etc. I'm sweating over > picking the right sized frame. My PBH is 94cm but my height is only > 186cm ie. I have a pretty long bottom half and short top half. The > folks at Riv are suggesting that I should be looking at a 64cm > Hillborne or a 65cm Hilsen. > > Now this to me seems massive, as I seem to be comfortable on an > effective top tube length of about 570mm on a standard racing bike > (56-68cm frame). Any top tube past 580mm and I feel like its a bit of > a stretch. I'm therefore thinking of maybe a smaller Hilsen (?63) or a > 60cm Hillborne. > > I do appreciate that the bars will be higher thus shortening the > distance to handlebars but still it seems like those frames are a bit > stretched out for me. Anyone with a similar build who has had > experiences positive or negative with Riv sizing? Could you provide > some advice? Thanks! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] SH/AHH sizing question
Hi Suraj, Here's a link to my Riv Custom Spec sheet: http://thesaltycyclist.blogspot.com/2009/07/rivendell-road-spec-sheet.html It came out as a 63.5cm bike with 60cm top tube (measured horizontally, but actual length is longer due to slight upslope). I also had a A Homer Hilsen in 63cm that fit very well. As you can see on the spec sheet, I have a pbh just under 93cm and I am the same height as you. If anything, you are smidge shorter in the upper body, but not by much. Given my experience on the 63cm AHH, which you can see built up for me here (http://thesaltycyclist.blogspot.com/2010/01/commutin-rig-homer-hilsen.html), I would recommend a 64 only if you planned on having high handlebars. That would be the only way to get the distance to the bars to be comfortable for you. If you like your handlebars lower than the saddle (mine are always about 4cm below my saddle), I'd recommend going down one size than recommended to 63cm. In the pic of my AHH, the stem has no rise and is 10cm in length (for reference). These are all relative, of course. Think about how you'll be riding the bike and how you'd want it set up and decide accordingly. Hope that helps, Joe PS- I can't find the specs for the 60cm Hillborne but I'm guessing it would be an odd fit for you based on the measurements provided. Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 > Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:14:48 -0800 > Subject: [RBW] SH/AHH sizing question > From: suraj.shanmu...@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Hello all, > > I live in Australia and am thinking of picking up a Riv, either a > Hillborne or a Hilsen. Given shipping issues etc. I'm sweating over > picking the right sized frame. My PBH is 94cm but my height is only > 186cm ie. I have a pretty long bottom half and short top half. The > folks at Riv are suggesting that I should be looking at a 64cm > Hillborne or a 65cm Hilsen. > > Now this to me seems massive, as I seem to be comfortable on an > effective top tube length of about 570mm on a standard racing bike > (56-68cm frame). Any top tube past 580mm and I feel like its a bit of > a stretch. I'm therefore thinking of maybe a smaller Hilsen (?63) or a > 60cm Hillborne. > > I do appreciate that the bars will be higher thus shortening the > distance to handlebars but still it seems like those frames are a bit > stretched out for me. Anyone with a similar build who has had > experiences positive or negative with Riv sizing? Could you provide > some advice? Thanks! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
