Re: [RBW] Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[René Sterental]

How cute!!!

On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Keith Muller  wrote:

> I just installed a Yepp Mini on my Hunqapillar and have been pretty happy
> with it!  Baby Lucy has been pretty happy with it as well!
>
> Keith
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 11:35:46 AM UTC-4, Dave wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Picked up a Yepp Mini stem-mounted child seat this weekend for my 55cm
>> Cheviot and was surprised to find that the bike is now incredibly hard to
>> get on and off of. My PBH is 84 and I'm about 5'8".  Seems strange to me
>> that on a step-through frame with a long theoretical top-tube that I'm
>> having such a hard time with the fit of this kiddo carrier. Anyone else
>> have similar experiences or figured out a way to make it work? My suspicion
>> is that because the mount-bracket sits on the stem which on the Cheviot
>> comes back towards the rider that it puts the carrier closer to the saddle
>> than on other bikes.
>>
>> Love the idea of the front mount, but only if I can still be comfortable
>> on the bike! Thanks for any input.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Dan McNamara]

Another front seat option to consider is the BoBike Mini Front. The seat does 
not lean back as far as the Yepp and some of the other front mount mounts so 
the clearance is better for the rider. Not as well marketed in the US as Yepp 
or iBert but it is a quality seat. 


Dan

> On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Shoji for the detailed answers!  I think the yepp mini is the way I'll 
> go.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 10:33 Shoji Takahashi  
>> wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>> A suggestion from my experience with Yepp Mini:
>> Stand on one side of bike (I usually stand on non-drive side).
>> Put kid in seat--> bike and/or seat leaning against your body.
>> Grab BOTH grips of the handlebars (while standing off to the side on both 
>> feet).
>> Swing your leg over the back of the bike, or lift it over the top tube. If 
>> you're going over the top tube, you might want to lean the bike a bit-- make 
>> sure your balance is adequate for the weight shift of a kid in the seat.
>> 
>> Sorry if the above sounds insulting-- it's not my intent. I'd put together a 
>> video, but I can't do right now.
>> 
>> BTW: I don't know if a Yepp Maxi would solve your problem. With a rear 
>> carrier, you can't swing your leg over the back of the bike. Also the weight 
>> is not between your arms-- I've seen a person drop their bike+kid as the 
>> handlebars rotated and the bike frame slid out. 
>> 
>> Without the Yepp Mini, do you mount the bike by stepping over the top tube? 
>> Or how do you get on the bike?
>> 
>> 
>> Tony,
>> There is a minimum amount of stem space required. I'm guessing about 2-3 
>> inches. I can check when I get home.
>> 
>> RE: basket-- with small bikes, there can be interference between the foot 
>> rests and a front-mounted basket. Your bike is probably fine-- my 48cm 
>> Hunqapillar was ok when my kids were small, but now that I have the foot 
>> rests all the way down, I can't use the basket (w/o modifying it). 
>> 
>> RE: commuting gear w/front seat-- I'm using front rack+bags (HAR/HAB) now, 
>> as I need the rear rack for a Burley Piccolo. At other times, I've used the 
>> rear rack with saddle sack or panniers. It doesn't make much difference 
>> (with a Hunqapillar). The Yepp Mini is great in that there's a quick (and 
>> secure) on/off. I leave the seat at the preschool before heading out to 
>> work. 
>> 
>> RE: Wheel flop-- I don't notice wheel flop, b/c I'm usually holding onto the 
>> handlebars or Yepp seat when it's mounted. Since the Yepp seat is mounted on 
>> the other side of the axis, it might actually help to stabilize and reduce 
>> wheel flop? 
>> 
>> RE: handlebars-- albatross works really well. If you're taller (and have 
>> longer arms) and your child isn't very tall, you can probably use drops 
>> and/or moustache bars. I think I could probably use moustache bars, as I 
>> sometimes grab the fronts of the albatross.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> shoji
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 1:10:38 AM UTC-4, Dave wrote:
>>> Loaded my son up, despite the awkwardness when not moving, and headed down 
>>> to the lbs where they confirmed that, yeah, it's just that sorta thing. 
>>> Will probably lower seat to make standing/supporting myself at a stop sign 
>>> possible. Also debating exchanging it for a rack mounted Yepp maxi.
>>> 
>>> https://goo.gl/photos/9d6VUd9rkaL3ayRX8
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Re: [RBW] Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Tony,
I checked the stem-mount adapter-- it requires 1 5/8" on the [threaded] 
stem. That's a minimum amount, which would probably do fine on a 
dirt-drop-style stem. On a tallux-style stem, the forward extension could 
interfere with the mount, thus requiring one to raise the stem a little 
more. 

In any event, if you've got ~2 inches on free stem space, you'll probably 
be fine. 

Good luck! shoji



On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 11:33:06 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Thanks Shoji for the detailed answers!  I think the yepp mini is the way 
> I'll go.
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 10:33 Shoji Takahashi  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>> A suggestion from my experience with Yepp Mini:
>> Stand on one side of bike (I usually stand on non-drive side).
>> Put kid in seat--> bike and/or seat leaning against your body.
>> Grab BOTH grips of the handlebars (while standing off to the side on both 
>> feet).
>> Swing your leg over the back of the bike, or lift it over the top tube. 
>> If you're going over the top tube, you might want to lean the bike a bit-- 
>> make sure your balance is adequate for the weight shift of a kid in the 
>> seat.
>>
>> Sorry if the above sounds insulting-- it's not my intent. I'd put 
>> together a video, but I can't do right now.
>>
>> BTW: I don't know if a Yepp Maxi would solve your problem. With a rear 
>> carrier, you can't swing your leg over the back of the bike. Also the 
>> weight is not between your arms-- I've seen a person drop their bike+kid as 
>> the handlebars rotated and the bike frame slid out. 
>>
>> Without the Yepp Mini, do you mount the bike by stepping over the top 
>> tube? Or how do you get on the bike?
>>
>>
>> Tony,
>> There is a minimum amount of stem space required. I'm guessing about 2-3 
>> inches. I can check when I get home.
>>
>> RE: basket-- with small bikes, there can be interference between the foot 
>> rests and a front-mounted basket. Your bike is probably fine-- my 48cm 
>> Hunqapillar was ok when my kids were small, but now that I have the foot 
>> rests all the way down, I can't use the basket (w/o modifying it). 
>>
>> RE: commuting gear w/front seat-- I'm using front rack+bags (HAR/HAB) 
>> now, as I need the rear rack for a Burley Piccolo. At other times, I've 
>> used the rear rack with saddle sack or panniers. It doesn't make much 
>> difference (with a Hunqapillar). The Yepp Mini is great in that there's a 
>> quick (and secure) on/off. I leave the seat at the preschool before heading 
>> out to work. 
>>
>> RE: Wheel flop-- I don't notice wheel flop, b/c I'm usually holding onto 
>> the handlebars or Yepp seat when it's mounted. Since the Yepp seat is 
>> mounted on the other side of the axis, it might actually help to stabilize 
>> and reduce wheel flop? 
>>
>> RE: handlebars-- albatross works really well. If you're taller (and have 
>> longer arms) and your child isn't very tall, you can probably use drops 
>> and/or moustache bars. I think I could probably use moustache bars, as I 
>> sometimes grab the fronts of the albatross.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> shoji
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 1:10:38 AM UTC-4, Dave wrote:
>>>
>>> Loaded my son up, despite the awkwardness when not moving, and headed 
>>> down to the lbs where they confirmed that, yeah, it's just that sorta 
>>> thing. Will probably lower seat to make standing/supporting myself at a 
>>> stop sign possible. Also debating exchanging it for a rack mounted Yepp 
>>> maxi. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/photos/9d6VUd9rkaL3ayRX8
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Lungimsam]

Two words:
ROSCO BABY

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Re: [RBW] Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Edwin W]

Dave,

That is one cute kid!! I think there is something nice about having the kid up 
front so you can chit chat with him, but if he's too close, it will be 
annoying. Raising the stem would raise you up and move you back a bit, and 
boscos would do that more, but at a cost and for a hassle. 

Good luck and let us know what you do. 

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Tony DeFilippo]

Is there a minimum amount of stem space required? How much?  A timely thread as 
I'm in the market as well!

It's good to see pictures with Albatross bars, looks like they work fine for 
getting around the seats.  Aside from the actual fitment to the bike of the 
seat how do people change the loading of other commuting gear? Wald front 
basket still OK?  Do you get more wheel flop?  My only complaint with my front 
basket loaded on the Saluki is that the bars always want to fall back towards 
the frame when stopped or pushing the bike... I've solved it on previous builds 
with the VO spring thing at the back of the lower fork crown.  A good solution 
except that it would get mounted over the 's' in Saluki now which seems a shame.

But honestly I'm close to having to do it as the headset is adequately tight 
and I do like to load the front.  Given that a yepp is on that same turning 
axis I'm wondering if it makes a difference.

Are drops and moustache bars definitely out for use with the yepp?

Tony

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Re: [RBW] Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Dan McNamara]

I had the Yepp Mini on my Bomba. Ended up going with Bosco bars to keep me from 
leaning into Alice. That worked out pretty well. I kept the Yepp mount as low 
as possible on the stem. 

Getting on the bike was mostly a swing leg over rear rack affair. 

Dan



> On Mar 14, 2016, at 8:35 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Picked up a Yepp Mini stem-mounted child seat this weekend for my 55cm 
> Cheviot and was surprised to find that the bike is now incredibly hard to get 
> on and off of. My PBH is 84 and I'm about 5'8".  Seems strange to me that on 
> a step-through frame with a long theoretical top-tube that I'm having such a 
> hard time with the fit of this kiddo carrier. Anyone else have similar 
> experiences or figured out a way to make it work? My suspicion is that 
> because the mount-bracket sits on the stem which on the Cheviot comes back 
> towards the rider that it puts the carrier closer to the saddle than on other 
> bikes.
> 
> Love the idea of the front mount, but only if I can still be comfortable on 
> the bike! Thanks for any input.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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