Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers
My thoughts exactly. ;) How cool would that be, going to the field and seeing it raise the launcher and fire the rockets? I'd be in shock and awe! On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Clark Ward Jr wrote: > Does anything prohibit rocket launchers from volley fire? hehehe > -- > Clark in Georgia > > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers
Does anything prohibit rocket launchers from volley fire? hehehe -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers
Let's muddy the water a little bit more...my Sturmtiger shot a 320mm rocket propelled mortor. Technically it's self-propelled artillery. Classification: tank. :) The MLRS would be cool, but only if it was allowed to fire a barrage of all 12 tubes IMHO. :) Derek T065 SV016 KV-2 on hold On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Clark Ward Jr wrote: > I think it's pretty clear. The MLRS is a 'movable piece of artillery which > fired rocket propelled rounds from one or more tubes'. It doesn't get any > clearer than that. Additionally, it's not regarded in any circles as > anything beyond a piece of mobile artillery (i.e. no one thinks it's a > tank). It should get 12 shots . > > Technically, Rocketman's got one tube, but got an exception. If you really > wanted to get technical, it's not a rocket launcher because the TOW system > fires missiles, not rockets. But nonetheless, going by drive system to get > more shots on a rocket launcher skirts the intent of the rules, in my > opinion. Which is worth exactly what you paid for it ;) > > -- > Clark in Georgia > > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] new Tiger barrel doesn't fit .........
i was just out in the garage pulling some measurements from the inside of the tank, and wanted to see how the new barrel would look in place ... and it won't fit! the problem is, my shower curtain rod is a bit longer than Brian's was out the back of the finished barrel. i made mine to use the entire 1.5" thickness of the mantel as support as it is a nice, snug fit, Brian's was less half of that and only rested in the first 1/2" and the holes behind that are slightly off enough that i can't even force it into place. rather than taking it off and drilling it through with one of my bits, i'm thinking over an idea of a new one (made from layers of 3/4" pine board) that would include something to help prevent any splattered paint from entering the turret from the sides of the mantel I think Frank has some tacked and draped rubber roofing material on his (will have to look at his tank pictures along with the others that have been built so far to see how they have done theirs). Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: Tiger I for sale
tiger sold in less than one hour. Thank, Bob -- This AOL Mail was sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Cobra9431 To: "R/C Tank Combat" Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:02:11 PM GMT-0700 Subject: [TANKS] Re: Tiger I for sale Does this TIGER1 have a designation we can see? -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: Tiger I for sale
Does this TIGER1 have a designation we can see? -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers
I think it's pretty clear. The MLRS is a 'movable piece of artillery which fired rocket propelled rounds from one or more tubes'. It doesn't get any clearer than that. Additionally, it's not regarded in any circles as anything beyond a piece of mobile artillery (i.e. no one thinks it's a tank). It should get 12 shots . Technically, Rocketman's got one tube, but got an exception. If you really wanted to get technical, it's not a rocket launcher because the TOW system fires missiles, not rockets. But nonetheless, going by drive system to get more shots on a rocket launcher skirts the intent of the rules, in my opinion. Which is worth exactly what you paid for it ;) -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
RE: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers
I thought this would be an easy question. My gut reaction is "rocket launcher". When I read through the rules, however, it's not exactly clear. RocketMan was an armored car which leads me to believe that the locomotion type (wheels, tracks, etc.) takes precedence over the armament. In that case the M270 would be a tank. The rules are found at http://www.rctankcombat.com/rules (excerpt below). Maybe we need to interpret the rules from the 'top down'. The first category that fits your vehicle is used. Category Description Tank Any fully tracked vehicle Armored Car Any fully or partially wheeled vehicle Field Artillery Any fixed or movable piece of artillery Rocket Launcher Any movable piece of artillery which fired rocket propelled rounds from one or more tubes Infantry Any soldier carrying a hand-held rocket launcher Support Vehicle Any type of un-armed vehicle used to move equipment and supplies, including trailers From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mac wynkoop Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 12:51 PM To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers Hey everybody, been lurking for a while now and heard about the rocket thing. Anybody ever try to build an M993 M270? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System What would that even classify into? On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:19 AM, wrote: RocketMan was a wheeled vehicle with armament . It fell under the "Armored Car" category, not the hand held rocket launcher category. The armament type used on the actual vehicle is not significant. I like that rule, BTW. It is simple and encourages a broader selection of vehicles on the field. - Original Message - From: "Clark Ward Jr" To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:37:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers I will vote for a rule change to allow wire-guided paintballs as soon as someone field tests them!! I'm pretty sure that Frank would allow them at that point, too :) I think that Rocketman has a multi-shot marker where it's TOW launcher would be in the full scale. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Weston wrote: > What are the rules for them?? I know that Rocket Launcher can have One > single-shot, muzzle-loaded paintball marker per tube, but the FV438 > Swingfire for instance can be reloaded from inside the vehicle. Also, > since they are guided missiles, what is done for the fact that the > missile will more than likely strike its target? > > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers
In a message dated 5/22/2010 12:51:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mac.wynk...@gmail.com writes: Hey everybody, been lurking for a while now and heard about the rocket thing. Anybody ever try to build an M993 M270? _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System) What would that even classify into? now that would be interesting to see on the battle field Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers
Hey everybody, been lurking for a while now and heard about the rocket thing. Anybody ever try to build an M993 M270? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System What would that even classify into? On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:19 AM, wrote: > > > RocketMan was a wheeled vehicle with armament . It fell under the "Armored > Car" category, not the hand held rocket launcher category. The armament type > used on the actual vehicle is not significant. > > > > I like that rule, BTW. It is simple and encourages a broader selection of > vehicles on the field. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Clark Ward Jr" > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:37:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [TANKS] Rules for ATGM Launchers > > I will vote for a rule change to allow wire-guided paintballs as soon > as someone field tests them!! I'm pretty sure that Frank would allow > them at that point, too :) > > I think that Rocketman has a multi-shot marker where it's TOW launcher > would be in the full scale. > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Weston wrote: > > What are the rules for them?? I know that Rocket Launcher can have One > > single-shot, muzzle-loaded paintball marker per tube, but the FV438 > > Swingfire for instance can be reloaded from inside the vehicle. Also, > > since they are guided missiles, what is done for the fact that the > > missile will more than likely strike its target? > > > > -- > > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > > > -- > Clark in Georgia > > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: Good place to find information and pictures?
And there's always good old Youtube. -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: War in the Woods II- War Stories
In a message dated 5/22/2010 10:22:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sasquevane...@aol.com writes: Phil PS I wouldn't call slaughtering puppies "sick". More like "a challenging case to argue". nope, i'll go with sick and cruel Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: War in the Woods II- War Stories
Now I know how Claire ended up operating the Valentine. I think I must have been doing the "curse you, why don't you work!" dance at the time. Phil PS I wouldn't call slaughtering puppies "sick". More like "a challenging case to argue". -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Tiger I for sale
Guys, I am still trying to unload the Tiger I that I have. Asking $290.00. Thanks, Bob Red Lion, Pa. -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: War in the Woods II- War Stories
Pete... Sick SickSICK! ROTFLMFAO!!! Steve On May 21, 7:17 pm, Pete Arundel wrote: > Later, in a secret location close to the Staffordshire Moorlands . . . > > Transcript Dated 09/05/2010 > > PA: I have the stiff stats from yesterday. > OC: Can't you call them 'casualty reports' like everyone else? > PA: Sure, whatever, but they make for a very wobbly read. > OC: That's the printer, let's have a gander > [pause] > OC: Ah . . . I thought that we'd issued you with a Valentine tank. > PA: Well we had one but the wheels fell off. > OC: Still use it as a pillbox, son. > PA: True - unless the O-Ring has blown in the remote hose to the main > armament > OC: So did you actually do anything to defend Eric? > PA: Well . . . no. > OC: So where is the Valentine? You don't seem to have brought it back > with you. > PA: I managed to fix the gas line by borrowing an O-ring from the > enemy. > OC: and they GAVE you one? > PA: Sure. Neil was getting bored with winning and wanted more of a > challenge. > OC: Sporting of him. Still doesn't explain why you've come home > without The Tank. > PA: I let someone borrow it. > OC: What?! > PA: Well after I borrowed an O-ring from the enemy commander I > couldn't really refuse his other half the opportunity to shoot him. > OC: You let a strange woman loose with our military hardware? > PA: Yep. > OC: Yep? > PA: Yep. She's not that strange although her boots were very cool. > OC: . . . and later on she stole the tank? > PA: Nah - the tank transporter broke down and I had to abandon it in > enemy territory > OC: Enemy territory? > PA: Yeah . . . well surrey > [pause] > PA: which is pretty much the same thing. Phil's looking after it. > OC: Is he the enemy? > PA: No. He's a solicitor. > OC: Surely that's pretty much the same thing? > PA: No, it's just his job. > OC: If a man is paid to slaughter puppies and is found knee deep in > puppy entrails and juggling their little, doggy heads then it could be > said that it is 'just his job' but that doesn't make it any less vile. > PA: Is that a real job? > OC: Probably in France. > > Transcript ends at this point > > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: Amphibious Vehicles?
9 years in submarines :) Oh, and I'm an enginnering nerd who killed time on one deployment by reading thru Burcher and Rydill's 'Concepts in Submarine Design' twice. Used it again more recently as I've been building some very small scale RC ship models that are VERY sensitive to how one ballasts them. (1,250 ton destroyer and an I-400 submarine in 1/144 scale, both combat models with gun and pump. DD is almost done and I gotta say it is a really good packaging job) But my thinking on such things for amphibious tanks (or supply vehicles) is that a positive metacentric height is highly desirable because while they have a reasonably strong righting moment (because they are pretty wide for their depth), they are fairly dense structures and once they get rolling, the inertia (combined with a negative metacentric height) could easily flip a very costly (not to say dear to the owner) tank. This may or may not be a big deal depending on depth of water and water-resistance of the component parts, but if one was going to design an amphibious vehicle in the first place, why not do it right? ;) On reflection, I'd also work out a scheme for securing cargo in a support vehicle. A battery sliding during a water transit would be bad :) On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Mark_123522 wrote: > Clark: > > A surface ship might have a positive or negitive metacentric height, > but A submarine MUST have a positive metacentric height. > > Metracentric height is really arcane stuff! How do you know of such > things? > I read a book or two on navel architecure many years ago. > > Mark > > On May 19, 2:49 pm, Clark Ward Jr wrote: >> I agree with sneaking in bouyancy where ever we can. I was going to >> do a dissertation on metacentric height, ad nauseum, but then it >> occurred to me that if a 1/6 scale tank suffers a casualty that allows >> water in, it's going down regardless of design features lol. Not >> enough reserve bouyancy by half, even with super-lightweight >> batteries. Still would love to see a PT-76 running around and >> swimmable. Or an LAV. >> >> -- >> Clark in Georgia >> >> -- >> You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. >> To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
