[TANKS] Re: Help me
I would think a tank destroyer such as the Hetzer is easier to build because of its lack of a turret. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Help me
In a message dated 5/25/2010 11:34:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tan...@gmail.com writes: Overlapping would also be a word to describe them. The wheels have to pass by each other when they hit a bump. ah, okay, now i get what your talking abut now. yup, that's gonna be a job for doing all of them wheels (but that's what i'm going for myself on this Tiger) Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: Help me
Hi Nicholas Good to have you on board. Some of the replies to your original question seem to have wandered off on to that old favourite, what is the best tank? However you actually asked about control systems, and as I've just had to consider that for T057 (which is currently undergoing rebirth) I shall try to answer it. There are 3 elements in tank elecronics: 1. The radio. This gets a signal from the transmitter in your hand to the receiver in the tank. 2. The motors. These comprise a 12V, 18V or 24V battery and motors. 3. The control system. This goes between 1 2 and switches the power to the wheels on and off. It may be a simple on and off, or it may be proportional ie you can drive at anything from a crawl to full speed. 4. OK I know I said there were 3 things but there is also the trigger, elevate, and traverse mechanisms. They are contrilled in exactly the same way as the tracks- the traverse is a motor which has to be switched on or off, the trigger is either a servo or a solenoid which fires the marker, and the elevate is a servo which goes up and down. So really it is 3 parts. You've probably looked at the how-to's on the website (if you haven't, do so). The advice on controkl systems is I think a bit out of date, certainly as regards what we are doing here in the UK. When I first built T057 its control system was a MAG type H bridge which means that you operate microswitches by pressing them with servos, ooperated by radio control. An alternative is the TriPact System which is the same thing but using relays instead of servos and switches.These aer on/off, not proportional. What we are using here in the UK is 25A Sabertooth speed controllers. These cost about £84 and can overheat, but otherwise are pretty reliable. What happens here is that the wires from the radio receiver goes into the speed controller. This gives you proportional control ie the tank will move at anything from a crawl to full speed. Whilst it is true that in a battle you generally use full speed if you are gong from A to B, you do want to be able to creep to adjust your aim,and it means that you can test the thing in your garage without running into your car or over the cat. T057 will have servos for trigger and elevate control, the former operating a car central-locking motor wich fires the marker. I don't need traverse, cos T057 is a Hetzer with no turret. And also the best tank. Obviously. Next up is the radio. Your choice here is 6-channel radio control, as for model aircraft (make sure you use a waveband permitted for your country), or a Playstation 2 controller linked to a C6C controller (google Cheap Control Systems- it's built by Frank Pittelli on this site). I've just ordered a C6C. It has the advantage that it's designed for tanks, unlke anything else you'll buy which is aimed at RC planes or cars. The last question you asked was about scale. The rules of RC tank combat require 1/6th scale or 3 feet long. That is ideal as it provides just enough room to get everything in. I hope that helps. I would add that when I started this hobby 2 or 3 years ago I was a complete beginner and knew nothing about electronics or woodwork. I'm just getting to the stage when I can plan things and they actually work without too much complete rebuilding or blood. The above is a beginner's view which is what I think you wanted. There are many people with a much better technical skill than I and if I've got soemthing wrong do correct it, guys. Final question: where do you live, Nicholas? There's nothing like seeing these things in action, and having someone to criticise your work;tank bulders need a laugh too! Phil Palmer (In England. It's sunny at the moment). On May 24, 6:44 pm, Nicolas nicolasgu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm starting in the hobby, and I would like some help. The mechanics I understood. But with the electronics I have some problems, which control system I use?, As for controls, there is someone who manufactures?. Since already thank you. Ps: What is the best scale for beginners? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: Help me
Phil, the speed controller you use is sometimes considered light weight, so you might want to tell him about the motors you are using with it and how you are keeping them from over heating completely Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: Help me
oh and tell him how little your tank weighs too (looking at the current pictures on the site) you look to have nothing much in there to make it very heavy as some of the tanks in here are Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] New video
NavyShooter wrote: Tried editing my tank's page (T066) to include it, but I think I've done something wrong You need to enter the embed code for the video object created by YouTube, not the URL. I fixed it for you and the video is now available at: http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T066/Page4.html at the bottom of the page. Frank P. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: Help me
I and others like the 1/6th rule due to the fact you can find pre-made accessories in 1/6th scaleothers like the 3ft. rule. You decide. Derek On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:05 PM, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote: oh and tell him how little your tank weighs too (looking at the current pictures on the site) you look to have nothing much in there to make it very heavy as some of the tanks in here are Chris, Odyssey Slipways http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: Help me
The Valentine was, near as damnit, 18' long. I managed to conform to both rules . . . On May 26, 3:48 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: I and others like the 1/6th rule due to the fact you can find pre-made accessories in 1/6th scaleothers like the 3ft. rule. You decide. Derek On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:05 PM, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote: oh and tell him how little your tank weighs too (looking at the current pictures on the site) you look to have nothing much in there to make it very heavy as some of the tanks in here are Chris, Odyssey Slipways http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Two radio control? -- Is it legal?
What if a guy had two radios. One that controled the tracks, and the other runs the gun and turret. There would be two operators, a driver and gunner. Would that be an unfair advantage? Would it fit the rules? I ended up with 2 radios and my daughter wants to come to the up comming battle. Mark -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] New video
Is that thing as big as it looks or do you live in a 3/5th scale house? lol On May 25, 2010, at 9:27 PM, NavyShooter wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EjH7SOsDJg Tried editing my tank's page (T066) to include it, but I think I've done something wrong Anyhow, here she is. Brad -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
RE: [TANKS] Two radio control? -- Is it legal?
I've noticed that the rules are pretty 'flexible'. I'm not the authority, but I'd support your two radio set-up at least for one battle if it would get you there. There are often spare assets at the battle. Usually it's a supply vehicle but sometimes it's something that shoots. Your daughter could always run of them if you don't require two to operate your tank. The trouble is, we don't know what's available until the battle. - Doug -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark_123522 Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:25 PM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Two radio control? -- Is it legal? What if a guy had two radios. One that controled the tracks, and the other runs the gun and turret. There would be two operators, a driver and gunner. Would that be an unfair advantage? Would it fit the rules? I ended up with 2 radios and my daughter wants to come to the up comming battle. Mark -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] using fittings with gun's air line
i was just out in the garage giving the old mantle a good going over - looking to see how i'll want it all to fit together in the end with the new one. while looking, i put the marker in the turret to check further on the fit of things, and took notice that the relocated air line (moved from the bottom of the gun to the side) will still be sticking out too far from the gun and push past the lid of the turret. what i am wondering is - can i use a regular brass elbow fitting from a automotive store (if the threads all match)? can i just use teflon tape, or does it need to have O-rings? or some special elbow fitting i should check at the local wanna-be paint ball / scuba shop? I do know i'll be going for a shorter air line that the one that came with the gun as well as this one currently reaches the rear of the gun (will have to check it all out again, but with the air tank in the turret get to get a better idea of a hose length and placement). i just mention this in case they make a shorter air line with a elbow on it Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Two radio control? -- Is it legal?
Not sure that it'd be an advantage... -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
RE: [TANKS] Two radio control? -- Is it legal?
not having battled before, I obviously cant comment on how difficult it is to operate a tank in battle, but I think it would be great to experiement with a forced two-radio option, and have one person driving, another controlling the gun, and possibly a third who actually gives the orders (commander). various battle videos tend to suggest however that the action is probably too fast-paced for a commander, perhaps just driver/gunner would be a good combination and would require you working as a team in good communication. the battle field might get a little crowded however! From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Clark Ward Jr [ki4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:08 AM To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TANKS] Two radio control? -- Is it legal? Not sure that it'd be an advantage... -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Two radio control? -- Is it legal?
In a message dated 5/26/2010 9:22:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, b...@holnet.net writes: the battle field might get a little crowded however! just don't forget your face mask (and the optional body armor) Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: i thought there was a link....
I would love to have a page for my M1A2-Abrams-In-Progress (in the pending section, of course). If the powers that be could create one for me, I would sure appreciate it -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
